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Indeed some good work here, seems there is good talent about regarding photo manipulation well done,

Regards Alan. :P
 
If recording is that slow, and concidering AF also is slower then my FZ35, i begin to have doubts on whether the HS10 is a good birding cam?

It's difficult to change my thoughts because i was already attached to the HS10 even before having it in my hands.
 
This is really sloooooooooooow :-(
Which brand/class/sizze of SDHC-Card
are you using?
Danielepaolo said:
I turned preview off and could take a shot every two seconds when shooting JPEG and shoot every 6 seconds when shooting raw. Much slower than in proceeding post.
Danielepaolo said:
I turned preview off and could take a shot every two seconds when shooting raw only and still only a shoot every 6 seconds when shooting raw.
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Bioseed, many thanks for your efforts here. It goes a long way for all of us interested in this camera!

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biosseed..
many thanks..
i started to learn silkypix now..
i wonder the difference is so big..

when i use irfan view to open RAW image from HS10 it looks no really different than JPEG (smear fine detail)
but looks your work with silkypix..

I just realized I was wrong obviously I chose rfan view to to assess the quality RAW from my HS10.. :l
 
Biosseed
Thanks for the work
Do you no if it's possible to use HU-3 for raw with the HS-10
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SHood said:
Did you also save the JPEG with the RAF? It so could you post the jpeg as well? It would be interesting to see the differences in the details and DR.
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I shot RAW+JPEG on the first shot I took with my new HS-10 yesterday, all at factory default settings. I'm baffled by this NR disabled thread so maybe by posting these someone can help me.

These are 100% crops of the head of a red tail hawk I shot yesterday in awful light (dull, overcast). This shot was f/5, 1/300, ISO200.

Carl (Pittsford, NY)

This is the in camera JPEG:



This is the JPEG produced by SilkyPix using their default settings:



This is the RAF file processed with the NR turned off:

 
This looks very good. Nice color and detail here.

While Silky is not the easiest to learn (I've had it since getting a GRDII) it will produce a fairly good image with patience. Also easy to just convert to tif and send to LR or PS.
 
Carl Crumley said:
SHood said:
Did you also save the JPEG with the RAF? It so could you post the jpeg as well? It would be interesting to see the differences in the details and DR.
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I shot RAW+JPEG on the first shot I took with my new HS-10 yesterday, all at factory default settings. I'm baffled by this NR disabled thread so maybe by posting these someone can help me.

These are 100% crops of the head of a red tail hawk I shot yesterday in awful light (dull, overcast). This shot was f/5, 1/300, ISO200.

Carl (Pittsford, NY)

This is the in camera JPEG:



This is the JPEG produced by SilkyPix using their default settings:



This is the RAF file processed with the NR turned off:

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very..very..good to me..
the improvement in detail is noticeable
thanks for sharing ;)
 
Thanks Bioseed. I was waiting to see what a .RAF file cotains.

It is simply amazing for this size sensor.

The whiskers seal the deal for me.

Any doubts I had are now gone.

The squirrel shot was handheld as well?

Thanks again.
 
didyou said:
Carl Crumley said:
SHood said:
Did you also save the JPEG with the RAF? It so could you post the jpeg as well? It would be interesting to see the differences in the details and DR.
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I shot RAW+JPEG on the first shot I took with my new HS-10 yesterday, all at factory default settings. I'm baffled by this NR disabled thread so maybe by posting these someone can help me.

These are 100% crops of the head of a red tail hawk I shot yesterday in awful light (dull, overcast). This shot was f/5, 1/300, ISO200.

Carl (Pittsford, NY)

This is the RAF file processed with the NR turned off:

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very..very..good to me..
the improvement in detail is noticeable
thanks for sharing ;)
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I think you image also involves some subject movement.

It might be better setting the shutter speed and let the camera worry about aperture and ISO.

The Raw file does have the detail.

Good news, good shot.
 
Bioseed said:
SHood said:
Bioseed,

This is very helpful. When you get a chance could you post a RAF conversion of a scene including trees and grass. I have noticed that jpegs from these scenes have smeared the details and I would be interested to see if the RAF shows more details.
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Here is a RAF conversion, and the jpeg, from a Raw+jpeg shoot. It should be obvious which is which. The difference in the grass in the shadow of the tree trunk is astounding. RAF is like a whole different camera.

The difference is so big I am now using my HS10 in RAW/RAF only.
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I'm afraid unless you tell me, I have no idea which is RAW and which is JPG.

However, I downloaded both pics and I PP'd them in FastStone. Now then, the 2nd pic when processed with gamma 1.50 and +5 sharpening, is BETTER IQ than the first pic.

But of course I may have got my knickers in a twist here, as I really don't know which was the RAW or JPG.

Arturo
 
PAUL TILL said:
It looks like you had the camera on centre point average metering so the JPEG would come out under exposed, this would not affect the RAW file.

If you had used Multi point metering it might have looked like the image below. The RAW file does contain more detail (so much for Fuji's excellent JPEG engine) but I think it would be a very slow camera if shot in RAW all the time.

Regards,

Paul.
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Paul, I shoot in manual mode mostly, and I have not exclusively used the center point average anyway. I am almost certain the photo you edited was a manual one. The DR difference is there every time regardless of metering, and the difference is even more exaggerated when seen in silkypix. I have never seen the HS10 RAF do what you have edited my photo to show.
 
Carl Crumley said:
SHood said:
Did you also save the JPEG with the RAF? It so could you post the jpeg as well? It would be interesting to see the differences in the details and DR.
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I shot RAW+JPEG on the first shot I took with my new HS-10 yesterday, all at factory default settings. I'm baffled by this NR disabled thread so maybe by posting these someone can help me.

These are 100% crops of the head of a red tail hawk I shot yesterday in awful light (dull, overcast). This shot was f/5, 1/300, ISO200.

Carl (Pittsford, NY)
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If you add a fourth photo after moving the false color control to the right, you should end up with something that looks pretty good.
 
Aside from the squirrel pic having more contrast than OOC jpegs, I can't for the life of me see where it is noticeably better than jpeg samples I've seen from the HS-10.

Many of you seem to see leaps and bounds better IQ, but I don't see it on my 23" Samsung flatscreen.

Am I the only one not moved by these samples?

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Digital imaging has introduced a whole new generation to the joy of photography.
 
The editing options for the RAF file in silkypix are far beyond any sharpening tool or gamma correction of a JPEG. I can't post a jpeg that can be edited as a RAF by others, so you will have to trust me that you will find the RAF edits to your liking regardless of which jpeg or converted jpeg can be sharpened for "better IQ".
Arturo148 said:
Bioseed said:
SHood said:
Bioseed,

This is very helpful. When you get a chance could you post a RAF conversion of a scene including trees and grass. I have noticed that jpegs from these scenes have smeared the details and I would be interested to see if the RAF shows more details.
Click to expand...
Here is a RAF conversion, and the jpeg, from a Raw+jpeg shoot. It should be obvious which is which. The difference in the grass in the shadow of the tree trunk is astounding. RAF is like a whole different camera.

The difference is so big I am now using my HS10 in RAW/RAF only.
Click to expand...
I'm afraid unless you tell me, I have no idea which is RAW and which is JPG.

However, I downloaded both pics and I PP'd them in FastStone. Now then, the 2nd pic when processed with gamma 1.50 and +5 sharpening, is BETTER IQ than the first pic.

But of course I may have got my knickers in a twist here, as I really don't know which was the RAW or JPG.

Arturo
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their site says they only support 4 Fuji cameras:

FUJIFILM
FinePix S2Pro
FinePix S3Pro
FinePix S5Pro
FinePix S100FS

How are you getting support for other cameras??
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Ray
RJNedimyer
 
Pixelizer said:
Many of you seem to see leaps and bounds better IQ, but I don't see it on my 23" Samsung flatscreen.
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Have to agree, to me it looks like an image from a 5Mp cam upsized to 10Mp - soft and noisy and if you try and sharpen the detail, the noise and artifacts are very high ..
Pixelizer said:
Am I the only one not moved by these samples?
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No, must be the emperors new clothes syndrome.. I can't see where it really betters even the lowly S1000 or S1500 (maybe DR due to RAW) let alone the Sx00 pair or the SX10 / FZ38

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