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Eric Bergin

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This is my first thread, and first B&W conversion. I like the sharp/high contrast for male portraits, but am unsure if that would work for women/kids? C&C requested.

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Only IMHO but this type of conversion with the unshaved look makes him appear as just out of a coal mine ... Try the DRAGAN or Grunge look but I would maybe try a high key on this one??
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Grazie, Thank you, - Sal
 
I agree. Making a female look all scruffy like the posted pic won't satisfy many. The pic as posted in b&w makes the guy look even worse than the color pic. He looks to me like he's been on the street living in a refrigerator box for a few months.
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-paul
 
Eric:

I am not sure what "look" you were after and it may very well be that you got what you wanted. However, I think that most would agree that you did not flatter the subject with this conversion. All you did was succeed in making him look grungy.

He is a handsome young man and I doubt that he would want to be thought of as "grungy". It is of course a subjective opinion, but here is how I think the conversion should look:



Regards...

Allen
 
Also forgot to add, that your monitor and everyoonne else here maybe calibrated differently so what you see may be a bit different from what we see in terms of color and saturation etc.. but the general idea is that this scruffy/gringy look is not flattering but works mostly for a gang or jail subject or a person working in the mines who cannot get the coal out of their skin.. IMHO Of course... Hope you get the critique as constructive and not personal ! WELCOME TO THE GREATEST FORUM ON THE WEB and Merry Christmas :P !!!
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Grazie, Thank you, - Sal
 
Thanks for the input. Sounds like I still need to work on figuring out which technique flatters the subject vs. picking a technique and forcing it on to the subject.
 
I think the problem with your edit is -(-whatever sharpening method you used(unsharp mask-Tppaz- adjust or nik silver exex), or whater-you went too far, as it i shows every whisker. Maybe that is what you were going for, not sure.
I took a shot at it -sepia toned it a bit also.
Buzz

 
Hi Eric,

I liked your photograph, and thought it would make a nice virtual oil painting. So I painted it in four different versions. One is a colored version with and without the scrubby beard. The other is a B&W version with and without the beard. Artistic preferences are very subjective,so I would never expect and/or predict that any one else would react to an image in the same way that I do. The one good thing about .jpeg images is that one click of the delete button, and they will instantaneously disappear. :) If it is Ok with you,I would like to post this image in one of the galleries on my website. I am not a commercial artist and do not sell my work,but I place completed projects on the website,so that family and friends can view them. I would also attribute credit to you as the photographer of the source image and post a link to your website. If you would like to see the type of work I do, and how the image would be displayed, if it were placed there,please visit my website at:

http://www.patthompsonsmudgepaintinggallery.com/

All the best,Eric to you and your family for a wonderful Christmas holiday!

Pat Thompson(Patre)







 
Thanks Patre, those oil conversions look great. You can use them on your website. I will email you my website, when I have it completed.
 
And I forgot to add that I cleaned up a few flaws around the hairline on the forehead,but didn't post the cleaned up versions here because most people probably didn't notice them or were too kind to point them out..
Pat
 
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