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Norway, the best place to live

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Coolsiggy said:
Canada should be number one....Lucky you.
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Actually - NO it shouldn't.

We don't support (or give adequate opportunity) enough to our First Nation peoples to top the list. Also, we still lag behind many European nations in social welfare systems, proper day-care funding, and decent living benefits for the disabled, etc.

Canada can definitely do better.

KEV
 
The list is suspect. Iceland and Ireland? Hah! Their economies have imploded. Australia? A bone-dry dust bowl with crocodiles, owned and raped by Chinese commodities companies?

I've been to Norway. Nice, but b-o-r-i-n-g. The only reason it's nice is oil money.
 
colesf said:
I've been to Norway. Nice, but b-o-r-i-n-g. The only reason it's nice is oil money.
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Yeah, the only thing that's even more b-o-r-i-n-g...is no education, no social-services, having an uber-expensive healthcare system, and not enough food to eat.

Right ;)

KEV
 
Lacol said:
shay guevara said:
The S word seems to have different meanings on opposite sides of the Atlantic Ocean.
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There's a perfectly good explanation for that. It goes back to the days of the cold war. In those days, the "ennemy" was the Soviet Union. And of course, this totalitarian regime happened to be communist, which is a form a socialism pushed to an extreme. So, as is always the case in times of war (hot or cold), there were vast propaganda campains in the U.S. to "demonize" those "dirty evil commies".

The younger and most easily influenced generation of this era are today adults with families, and the effects of this brainwashing are still very much felt.

Note that, on the other side of the ocean, the same thing was going on, and today hatred towards those "capitalist pigs" is still very much prevalent among a certain generation in former soviet union countries.
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Thay was my impression. In Western Europe that 'dirty evil commie' demonisation was not really present. We even bought their cheap SLR's (clunky but tough Zenits or slightly more refined Practikas). Many people in Europe started into photography with those things.
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are financed by state oil drilling. This shows what is possible if a society makes good use of its ressources - to everybody's advantage, not only that of a few rich.

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Don_D said:
Canada does have a publicly-funded health care system which brings you one step closer to socialism than the US in that regard.
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I'm sorry, but healthcare is just as much in line with capitalism as with socialism. If your truck breaks, you fix it. If your cow is sick, you call the vet. If your neighbour becomes ill, he/she cannot contribute to the society => 'loss of investment' unless he/she gets treated. Yes, every individual in a society is an investment.

Moreover, private healthcare is hugely inefficient and expensive. One doesn't need to turn too many pages in a micro-economics book (written by liberalists) to realize the inherent inefficiency of a private healthcare.

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WBirch said:
So what are those bailed out banks with their billions of free money
doing to help business in the Obama age??????????????????
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The bailout of banks and insurance companies like AIG was a necessary evil to prevent collapse of the world financial system.

Through the US government backing AIG paid it's obligations to financial institutions all over the world.

Most people do not understand how close we came to a global financial meltdown. Fortunately the US government did and acted decisively.

As a result, the US taxpayer is burdened with debt that we will have to eventually pay; likely it will cause inflation somewhere down the line.
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Don_D said:
The bailout of banks and insurance companies like AIG was a necessary evil to prevent collapse of the world financial system.

Through the US government backing AIG paid it's obligations to financial institutions all over the world.

Most people do not understand how close we came to a global financial meltdown. Fortunately the US government did and acted decisively.

As a result, the US taxpayer is burdened with debt that we will have to eventually pay; likely it will cause inflation somewhere down the line.
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There two major 'philosophies' the system can follow: market driven, or regulation.

The market driven mechanisms are so to say 'regulated' by the risk of going bust. IOW, if you take large risks, fine, but face the consequences. Now, if the players become so huge (or entangle each other to act like one entity) that society cannot allow them to go bust, it's a systematic robbery of the future taxpayers' money.

It's like selling insurances without coverage.

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Surely one of the best places to own a weatherproof camera!
Iceland in third? That country is broke!

As for myself, I'll exchange any state owned healthcare (I've already been ripped off in three Europen countries for that marvelous protection) and I ran away to the sunshine of a third world country... To each his own!

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GregGory said:
Don_D said:
Canada does have a publicly-funded health care system which brings you one step closer to socialism than the US in that regard.
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I'm sorry, but healthcare is just as much in line with capitalism as with socialism. If your truck breaks, you fix it. If your cow is sick, you call the vet. If your neighbour becomes ill, he/she cannot contribute to the society => 'loss of investment' unless he/she gets treated. Yes, every individual in a society is an investment.

Moreover, private healthcare is hugely inefficient and expensive. One doesn't need to turn too many pages in a micro-economics book (written by liberalists) to realize the inherent inefficiency of a private healthcare.
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i dont get this
when did getting a truck fixed cost $300,000, and you still die afterwards

how does getting an underprivileged kids teeth fixed align with a visit to the vet

it is the nature of society to help its self
responsible government services reflect that

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Oh right, that must mean your the best then. :)
Forget the whole thing, Don_D has rewritten the results!

It really must have bothered you to have not even made the top ten to feel that you had to justify and try and embelish USA's position.

That's funny. :D
Don_D said:
This is interesting but:

Norway's Human Development Index = 0.971
USA's Human Development Index = 0.956

Not really much difference.

...and I think there are a lot more people trying to move to the US than into Norway (or Canada).

We Americans have a lot of problems and right now they are getting worse, but most of us like our independence and freedom and don't much like socialism. :-)

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Good place to go if you can live by eating ice and drinking rocks. The place is bankrupt.

This is by far the most idiotic 'best places' compilation I've ever seen. I wonder what the agenda was of the makers. Accuracy wasn't a goal by any stretch.
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Rriley said:
i dont get this
when did getting a truck fixed cost $300,000, and you still die afterwards

how does getting an underprivileged kids teeth fixed align with a visit to the vet

it is the nature of society to help its self
responsible government services reflect that
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You did miss my point, or I'm missing yours ;)

I could have started with human decency, social sensitivity, Christian "be judged by the way you treat the least" tradition, but these arguments sound like 'socialism' to some ears...

Hence, I skipped this part and tried shed some light on the issue from a capitalistic approach, IOW look at society as a company, a human being as a machine or some kind of investment. I don't think any capitalist would argue it's sound practice to fix a combiner, or call the vet if the cow needs medicine. But if the worker needs medcare, it's unsound and a socialist conspiracy? The labour camps in North Korea offer health care to it's inmates... otherwise they would lose valuable workforce..

So, my point is, even if one doesn't care about the humane aspects of the issue, it's still good business to have healthcare in a society. Private healthcare is inefficient, and extremely expensive. If the US citizens paid the same money for the HC as the UK or Scandinavia, the US would have 1 trillion USD (yes, that's a lot) in the bank every year. You can look at this as a kind of 1 trillion lump-sum tax TAX TAX TAX Yes, it's destroying value and welfare.

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'If you can imagine sharing a waterbed with a baboon that's just been doused in itching powder.'
 
so just repost the topic as Nrway best place to live while taking pictures ...lol
 
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