Reading mode: Light Dark

DP1 series 2 please!

Go to last post
E

ecaton

Well-known member
Messages
209
Reaction score
0
Location
US
I hope Sigma is launching an upgraded/improved Sigma DP1 soon, including all improvements seen in the DP2 and more, including faster and better AF, better lcd, faster write time than in the DP2.

The lens should be of the same exellent quality, but faster, ie 2.8. Would present DP1 owners upgrade?
 
If it is not going to make major modification, don't bother to release. Save our money.
 
Sigma interviews some months ago included mention of upgrading the DP1 IR-filter. I've read of no other modifications as to components, TRUE processor, etc. So maybe, maybe not, other modifications.

For the record, at the interview time, Sigma spokesman confirmed that DP1 will remain in production, ie the DP2 is not a replacement for the DP1. Timeframe for modified DP1... and what modifications if any in addition to the IR-filter .... all not specified.
Best regards, Sandy
[email protected]
http://www.pbase.com/sandyfleischman
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandyfleischmann (newest DP2 & SD14 photos)
 
Before you get all excited about a 2.8 lens in this package, do a search in this forum for such discussions and then to the math yourself. Or buy clothing with much bigger pockets.

This was hashed and rehashed ad nauseum a while back. I am sure Sandy can find some links for you.

Also, about faster AF: have you read the Oly forum lately with regard to their new boyoboytoy over there? Maybe there is something about this type of AF that makes it not so fast. Especially in relation to this size imager. Just maybe.
ecaton said:
I hope Sigma is launching an upgraded/improved Sigma DP1 soon, including all improvements seen in the DP2 and more, including faster and better AF, better lcd, faster write time than in the DP2.

The lens should be of the same exellent quality, but faster, ie 2.8. Would present DP1 owners upgrade?
Click to expand...
--
Laurence

Never look down to test the ground before taking your
next step; only he who keeps his eye fixed on the far
horizon will find the right road.

Dag Hammarskjold

http://www.pbase.com/lmatson/root
http://www.pbase.com/sigmadslr/root
http://www.pbase.com/cameras/sigma/dp1
http://www.pbase.com/cameras/sigma/sd14
http://www.pbase.com/cameras/sigma/sd10
http://www.pbase.com/cameras/sigma/sd9
 
Well since they going to make some improvement to DP1, at least change the design a bit, don't be like Ford T-model.
So that when I buy a replacement, at least I feel something new. LOL
 
spheredome said:
Well since they going to make some improvement to DP1, at least change the design a bit, don't be like Ford T-model.
So that when I buy a replacement, at least I feel something new. LOL
Click to expand...
if you need to buy a DP1 replacement for some reason, I'd definitely think about getting a DP2 instead. There are some significant advantages to the DP2; we've been through the comparisons in many posts/threads.

The 2 advantages to the DP1 I see at present are a) lower cost than DP2 b) wider angle mm lens ... but you could easily stitch two DP2 photos together for a wider effect. At least for my purposes and usage, the DP2 has the advantage over the DP1.... The IR-filter replacement is mainly intended for the 'flare' issue I believe. I've on several occasions shot the DP2 into the sun, for experiment and for the neat cloud effect.. this is the most flare I've gotten from a DP2 ... and I think the effect is rather nice actually, granted this is a shot with polarizer http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandyfleischmann/3721358180/ otherwise I'm not sure I'd try a 'blinding' shot into the sun... large size online at link above



Best regards, Sandy
[email protected]
http://www.pbase.com/sandyfleischman
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandyfleischmann (newest DP2 & SD14 photos)
 
DP1 - Updated:

IR-Filter replacement
TRUE II image processor..

Thats enough for me!!

Hurry Sigma Im getting itchy..lol..As soon as its released I will send in my SD10 and 14 for service and cleaning :-). I dont want to be without a camera while I wait for the SLRs to get back ..

Rich
ny
 
ecaton said:
I hope Sigma is launching an upgraded/improved Sigma DP1 soon, including all > improvements seen in the DP2 and more, including faster and better AF, better lcd, > faster write time than in the DP2.
Click to expand...
Those all seem pretty likely.
ecaton said:
The lens should be of the same exellent quality, but faster, ie 2.8. Would present DP1 owners upgrade?
Click to expand...
As Laurence hinted at, fundamental physics presents an obstacle to a f/2.8 lens that wide. Yes I know about pancake lenses, as Laurence said look over old discussions.

I'm not sure how many would upgrade, but there's no denying that using the DP-2 is way faster in operation than the DP-1... if people were using the DP-1 most every day, I would see them wanting to upgrade.

--
---> Kendall
http://InsideAperture.com
http://www.pbase.com/kgelner
http://www.pbase.com/sigmadslr/user_home
 
ToasterFlyer said:
DP1 - Updated:

IR-Filter replacement
TRUE II image processor..

Thats enough for me!!
Click to expand...
that's it! all those who complain about the af speed please make sure that you've got the latest firmware! it improves af speed a lot. and set af to "landscape" for normal use. makes it faster as well.

my dream would be a dp3 with 28mm and 85mm equivalent interchangeable lenses. but this would kill a part of the dslr market.

greetings from the sunny south of france

reinhard
 
Yes this is all I want out of the DP1 v.2. I will leave the rest up to my SD10-14 and eventually(soon I hope) the SD15.

Rich
ny
xya said:
ToasterFlyer said:
DP1 - Updated:

IR-Filter replacement
TRUE II image processor..

Thats enough for me!!
Click to expand...
that's it! all those who complain about the af speed please make sure that you've got the latest firmware! it improves af speed a lot. and set af to "landscape" for normal use. makes it faster as well.

my dream would be a dp3 with 28mm and 85mm equivalent interchangeable lenses. but this would kill a part of the dslr market.

greetings from the sunny south of france

reinhard
Click to expand...
 
I would like any 2 of these 3:
1) weather-sealed.
2) lens OS.
3) Panny's G1 evf built-in.
Btw SandyF, that's a beautiful shot :)
 
Laurence Matson said:
Also, about faster AF: have you read the Oly forum lately with regard to their new boyoboytoy over there? Maybe there is something about this type of AF that makes it not so fast. Especially in relation to this size imager. Just maybe.
Click to expand...
If the Panasonic G1 can attain AF as fast as entry level DSLR's, then should be little stopping Olympus or Sigma from getting similar results with their sensors. Especially Oly, as it uses a Panasonic 4/3rds sensor.

--
Archiver - Recording the sights and sounds of life
http://www.flickr.com/photos/archiver/
 
Archiver said:
Laurence Matson said:
Also, about faster AF: have you read the Oly forum lately with regard to their new boyoboytoy over there? Maybe there is something about this type of AF that makes it not so fast. Especially in relation to this size imager. Just maybe.
Click to expand...
If the Panasonic G1 can attain AF as fast as entry level DSLR's, then should be > little stopping Olympus or Sigma from getting similar results with their sensors. > Especially Oly, as it uses a Panasonic 4/3rds sensor.
Click to expand...
Right, but the key phrase here is "Type Of AF"
Archiver said:
--
Archiver - Recording the sights and sounds of life
http://www.flickr.com/photos/archiver/
Click to expand...
--
http://www.chunsum.com (Website/Blog)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/chunsum (Active Gallery)
http://www.pbase.com/chunsum (Archive Gallery)
http://www.pbase.com/sigmadslr (Sigma Users Gallery)
 
ecaton said:
I hope Sigma is launching an upgraded/improved Sigma DP1 soon, including all improvements seen in the DP2 and more, including faster and better AF, better lcd, faster write time than in the DP2.

The lens should be of the same exellent quality, but faster, ie 2.8. Would present DP1 owners upgrade?
Click to expand...
  • The IR filter just have to be fixed. The red grid reflection is not acceptable.
  • Dont even think about F2.8 or even faster lens. Its expensive and large.
  • The DP2 general improvements - faster etc is of course reasonable.
  • More improvements is probably not a good idea for a minor upgrade model. Sigma has obvious problems making substantial changes at a short time.
--
Roland

support http://www.openraw.org/

X3F tools : http://www.proxel.se/x3f.html
 
I was under the impression that the m43 cameras use contrast detection AF like just about every other compact digicam. The difference is that Panasonic redesigned their CDAF system and it performs like an entry level DSLR. Oly hasn't reached that level yet, but they use the same sensor and same m43 standard. If it can be done with a Bayer sensor, surely it can be done with a Foveon.
--
Archiver - Recording the sights and sounds of life
http://www.flickr.com/photos/archiver/
 
Archiver said:
I was under the impression that the m43 cameras use contrast detection AF like just about every other compact digicam.
Click to expand...
Me to
Archiver said:
The difference is that Panasonic redesigned their CDAF system and it performs like an entry level DSLR. Oly hasn't reached that level yet, but they use the same sensor and same m43 standard. If it can be done with a Bayer sensor, surely it can be done with a Foveon.
Click to expand...
I am sorry - but I think it is currently not within Sigma´s competence to design such a good AF.

--
Roland

support http://www.openraw.org/

X3F tools : http://www.proxel.se/x3f.html
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Keyboard shortcuts

f
Forum
m
My threads
Mobile site
About
Editorial content
Cameras & Lenses
Community
All content, design, and layout are Copyright © 1998–2025 Digital Photography Review All Rights Reserved.
Reproduction in whole or part in any form or medium without specific written permission is prohibited.
When you use DPReview links to buy products, the site may earn a commission.
©GPS Media - Guides, Products, Services.
Back
Top