Good bag for Europe trip?

Let's hear it for basic black camera bags !
I'm quite fond of my forest green MiniTrekker and my blue Velocity 9.
I think that the non-black bags look less like camera bags and
attract less attention. Then again, if I'm walking around with a big
white 70-200 f2.8L IS, the color of the bag doesn't help hide my
camera gear.
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I have no objections to colored bags. I'm not fond of the two color combos of a lot of LowePro bags, and often the shape gives them away as camera bags. But lets face it, if it is boxy, it usually has camera gear in it, and it doesn't matter what color. I just prefer black as t blends in with my basic black travel wardrobe. Denim would be o.k. too ! :-)

carolyn
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Ranger a.k.a chammett
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'elegance is simplicity'
 
What does that have to do with it? If we only bought stuff we needed,
where would the fun be?
Exactly ! We could still be using our brownie cameras (I doubt you remember those !) They took pictures. As for yet another camera bag, it is under consideration. :-) ... especially a classy looking one like these !

carolyn
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Ranger a.k.a chammett
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'elegance is simplicity'
 
I started with an Instamatic (remember those)? Then moved on to a "high end" Agfa 110 camera (it had an automatic exposure mode out to 30 seconds), and then to my first SLR - a Practika. A few years later, I'd scraped up enough to buy my dream camera - the new Oly OM-2, which lasted me for about a decade.
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Jeff Peterman

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who can carry it ...



http://www.flickr.com/photos/39336099@N04/3640412644/sizes/l/

Hopefully I did that right this time ... ;-)
Really cute picture ! Does he hire out ? And you are SO right about the importance of being able to carry what you put in the bag !!! I remember shopping for a bag one time that would hold all my gear, (a couple of bodies and about 5 lenses) and I couldn't even pick it up off the floor ! Back to the store for the smallest one I could find, and even that is heavy with just my dSLR / medium tele, and my backup Pro 1.

My mantra ever since has been "travel light". On trips," less is definitely more" when it comes to your exhaustion level related to what you haul around all day. :-)

carolyn
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Ranger a.k.a chammett
http://www.pbase.com/chammett

'elegance is simplicity'
 
I started with an Instamatic (remember those)? Then moved on to a
"high end" Agfa 110 camera (it had an automatic exposure mode out to
30 seconds), and then to my first SLR - a Practika. A few years
later, I'd scraped up enough to buy my dream camera - the new Oly
OM-2, which lasted me for about a decade.
--
Jeff Peterman
Any insults, implied anger, bad grammar and bad spelling, are
entirely unintentionalal. Sorry.
http://www.pbase.com/jeffp25
http://www.jeffp25.smugmug.com

Yes , I remember the Instamatic and before that we had an Argus C3. I think I took an Instamatic to italy in 1974. Then I graduated to a Konica p/s with a 35 mm lens. That was a nice little camera (still have it somewere) .

My first venture into SLRs was with a Canon AE-1 which I wish I still had for no particular reason . I have kept my two Canon A-1's and two Elan II's. They live in an old classy bag no longer used. Can't part with old friends who have been through a lot of battles and shot literally thousands and thousands of slides , all labeled and archived I might add, using a modification of a method we used when I was a slide curator in another life !! :-)

carolyn
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Ranger a.k.a chammett
http://www.pbase.com/chammett

'elegance is simplicity'
 
"Old, Classy, Bags" sounds like an oxymoron.

I still have the successor to my OM-2, and OM-2S, with autowinder, sitting on a shelf. The original OM-2 was a director competitor to your early Canon, but I loved the small size of the Oly. When I pick it up now, with the winder attached, it still feels very stable in my hand (I used it with a palm grip attached to the winder, and without a neck strap, and it felt like part of my arm) - it feels so light and tiny compared to my Canon DSLRs. But, the last time I tried it the shutter wouldn't operate.

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Jeff Peterman

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My CompuTrekker Plus backpack is huge. I've only used it about half full of camera gear (the rest holding spare clothes and other stuff I keep in my carryon), and without the 17" laptop it can hold. If it was fully loaded with camera gear and a laptop, it would way far more than I'd want to carry any distance. I've been using it to store my gear between use.

--
Jeff Peterman

Any insults, implied anger, bad grammar and bad spelling, are entirely unintentionalal. Sorry.
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"Old, Classy, Bags" sounds like an oxymoron.

I still have the successor to my OM-2, and OM-2S, with autowinder,
sitting on a shelf. The original OM-2 was a director competitor to
your early Canon, but I loved the small size of the Oly. When I pick
it up now, with the winder attached, it still feels very stable in my
hand (I used it with a palm grip attached to the winder, and without
a neck strap, and it felt like part of my arm) - it feels so light
and tiny compared to my Canon DSLRs. But, the last time I tried it
the shutter wouldn't operate.
Maybe "old classy" is an oxymoron, but it is old and it always was classy . There are also a lot of "old" camera bags that were never classy ! :-)

I forgot about the Oly I had about 15 years ago. It was a p/s (my only one other than my Pro1, which is sort of a "hybrid" (?). I sold the Oly because I couldn't see the controls without putting on my glasses over my contacts, which I do all the time now anyhow.

I think the most interesting thing about this whole mini-discussion is remembering that in film days, camera models changed every 4-5 years maybe. (I've never checked that time frame, but for sure it wasn't every 12-18 months.) When we bought a new camera, we knew we were set for a long time and didn't even think about buying a new camera until the old one died. Now technology is ahead of us before we open the box !

Re: Your Oly with the dead shutter, I had shutter problems on my A-1's twice when I couldn't get repair or replacement (Mykonos and Pamukale ,Turkey),and that taught me the value of having a backup camera at the hotel (which I had). I used to take two identical bodies on trips, but now take a backup Pro1, which I need to update. But I just haven't gotten up interest in replacing that little jewel due to its 28-200 L lens (SLR equivalent).

carolyn
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Ranger a.k.a chammett
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'elegance is simplicity'
 
I keep my Pro1 in the bag as a backup but I haven't had the need to use it. I have been thinking of taking it out of the bag due to space limitations. I just purchased 580 flash and I have no more room in my UD40. I'll have to try to reposition my spacers to see if I can fit everything.

And you are correct, it would be terrible to have your main camera fail and not have a backup.
Re: Your Oly with the dead shutter, I had shutter problems on my
A-1's twice when I couldn't get repair or replacement (Mykonos and
Pamukale ,Turkey),and that taught me the value of having a backup
camera at the hotel (which I had). I used to take two identical
bodies on trips, but now take a backup Pro1, which I need to update.
But I just haven't gotten up interest in replacing that little jewel
due to its 28-200 L lens (SLR equivalent).

carolyn
--
Ranger a.k.a chammett
http://www.pbase.com/chammett

'elegance is simplicity'
 
The Oly had been sitting around for years, unused, and about once a year I'd take it out and move things around to check it out. Then about two years ago, the shutter would no longer operate.

But when I take my camera anywhere important, I always carry two bodies (these days a 40D and a 20D), and typically a P&S too. I can get the two bodies, the 70-200 f2.8 IS, a 10-22, a 17-55, a 580EX, and a bunch of other stuff in the Minitrekker and carry it comfortably - it fits within the size limits for flights between the US and UK, and loaded like that it is just within the weight limits for a carryon.
--
Jeff Peterman

Any insults, implied anger, bad grammar and bad spelling, are entirely unintentionalal. Sorry.
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And you are correct, it would be terrible to have your main camera
fail and not have a backup.
Re: Your Oly with the dead shutter, I had shutter problems on my
A-1's twice when I couldn't get repair or replacement (Mykonos and
Pamukale ,Turkey),and that taught me the value of having a backup
camera at the hotel (which I had). I used to take two identical
bodies on trips, but now take a backup Pro1, which I need to update.
But I just haven't gotten up interest in replacing that little jewel
due to its 28-200 L lens (SLR equivalent).

carolyn
--
Ranger a.k.a chammett
http://www.pbase.com/chammett

'elegance is simplicity'
I hauled my Pro 1 around in my bag all day every day in Paris last month. On our last day, I was really tired, and I got smart and left it at the hotel, FINALLY realizing that I could get it pretty quickly if needed. I actually did use it a few times on the trip, but mostly just for fun. I will say that leaving it at the hotel was my new smart idea !

But... you have no idea how glad I was on those two film camera failures, that I had the duplicate A-1 body at the hotel. I only missed one morning's shooting, which at the time was a tragedy, but better than no pictures for the entire balance of the trip. One of the failures was that the shutter just "died"...period. The other was that the rewind lever (remember those?) fell off and I never saw it when it happened, and never found it. No way to advance the film. So out of business till I got back to the hotel and retrieved the backup body.

I do take two dSLR's on Africa safaris, because there is just no option to repair or replace a camera even in Nairobi, much less in the bush. And that is one place where a p/s just won't do the job.

carolyn

carolyn

Ranger a.k.a chammett
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'elegance is simplicity'
 
The Oly had been sitting around for years, unused, and about once a
year I'd take it out and move things around to check it out. Then
about two years ago, the shutter would no longer operate.
Sad... That's the way life goes, even for cameras ! It happens to all of us sooner or
later. Not meaning to be morbid here !
But when I take my camera anywhere important, I always carry two
bodies (these days a 40D and a 20D), and typically a P&S too. I can
get the two bodies, the 70-200 f2.8 IS, a 10-22, a 17-55, a 580EX,
and a bunch of other stuff in the Minitrekker and carry it
comfortably - it fits within the size limits for flights between the
US and UK, and loaded like that it is just within the weight limits
for a carryon.
WOW.... Do you carry it all with you every day, or make critical choices and take a smaller day bag ? I don't use a backpack because I'm a small woman, most likely a good bit older than you, and therefore, just not the backpack type (except for my small, unconstructed "classy" :-) lady's Prada backpack , which I do use quite often on trips). Also, most museums now prohibit backpacks, and since museums are usually my main focus on trips, I have to pack with that in mind.

carolyn

Ranger a.k.a chammett
http://www.pbase.com/chammett

'elegance is simplicity'
 
My CompuTrekker Plus backpack is huge. I've only used it about half
full of camera gear (the rest holding spare clothes and other stuff I
keep in my carryon), and without the 17" laptop it can hold. If it
was fully loaded with camera gear and a laptop, it would way far more
than I'd want to carry any distance. I've been using it to store my
gear between use.
I guess that negates you for hiring out to carry heavy gear on trips then. Bummer

carolyn
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Ranger a.k.a chammett
http://www.pbase.com/chammett

'elegance is simplicity'
 
I use that set up for transporting, and have the Velocity 9 packed in my checked bags for use when I get to my destination. I can carry two bodies and the three lenses in the Velocity 9 if I need two (at least one of the five items in a side pouch), and even add a pouch that is a water bottle holder. I've done a lot of walking around with the Velocity 9 and that combination - while it can be worn as a backpack, I can fold away the waist strap and wear it like a shoulder bag when backpacks are banned.
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Jeff Peterman

Any insults, implied anger, bad grammar and bad spelling, are entirely unintentionalal. Sorry.
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Now that's what I call a good looking bag ! I wish I needed yet
another one to add to my collection. Maybe i do ! :-)

Thanks for the link !

carolyn
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Ranger a.k.a chammett
http://www.pbase.com/chammett

'elegance is simplicity'
I thought that Tenba Black Label bag looked familiar ! I went into my closet and pulled out an OLD Tenba bag from the early 80's that I store my old A-1's in. Take a look . Even the dimensions appear to be the same. It looks like Tenba modified (improved) the top flap a little, as on the new version, the edges extend and overlap on the ends of the bag. I'm sure the bag is made of more high tech fabric and lighter weight, but I guess they figured they couldn't improve much on the basic design, which even appears to look the same when the front is opened.

My ca. 25 year old Tenba with guard cat



compare to new updated version... better top flap.

http://www.tenba.com/products/Black-Label-Medium-Photo-Satchel.aspx#specifications

carolyn

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Ranger a.k.a chammett
http://www.pbase.com/chammett

'elegance is simplicity'
 

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