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Yehuda Katz
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Mickey Marsh
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Just use a card reader for j-peg's, DPP for any RAW files, or Canon software which comes with the 50D.
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Mike Marsh
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Mike Marsh
Download your images using Canon software and then use PS to open them and work with them. I use the Image Browser software that came with the camera, and put all the images in appropriately named folders, and put these folders in the Image Browser folder which I then "browse" and open images in CS or CS3. Image Browser is in Canon Utilities in the Applications folder on my HD. BUt I'm on a Mac, so may be different on a pc.
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jc174
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You can treat your camera just like an external flash drive. Just plug it in and open "My Computer". Click on your camera there and navigate to your pics. Copy them out to wherever you like. Or use "cut" if you want to move them to your computer and delete from your camera.
...If you have Windows.
...If you have Windows.
Thomas M
Leading Member
Just did the same thing. So guess what, your right, a potential problem. PSCS raw converter will not open 50D raw files. The update to ARC (adobe raw converter) plug-in that edits and converts 50D raw files into photoshop can only be used with CS3 or later. Raw deal, Of coarse if you upgrade to the latest PSCS then you'll probably need to upgrade your computer do to compatibility and ram issues. Isn't this fun? I believe that's the deal if I remember right but I'm old enough to claim (CRS).
As for DNG I don't know all the ins and outs but DNG will convert a 50D raw file to DNG format which in turn will edit in ARC, at least in my version of PS which is CS2 (9.02). I've only converted a couple just to see if it works. The DNG version for CS2 3.7 doesn't support the 50D so I suppose neither will the DNG 2.4 for CS. What I tried was to use the DNG version 4.6 converter that goes with the raw plug in ver... 4.6 for CS3 to decode a 50D file, edit it in using my current raw converter, then photoshop as normal. If there are any drawbacks to that I don't know but it appears to work OK.
I looked it up a couple weeks ago and decided to just use the raw converter that comes with the 50D, DPP (digital photo professional) then direct transfer to photoshop as 16 bit tiff to finish the editing, you can batch process from DPP. They say that DPP is better for raw conversion than ARC is anyway when it comes to 50D files, although I think there is some controversy depending on the version of ARC. Its still a future shock since my computers are yet too out of date to handle these large files, so its time to save some more for new software, new computer and more CF cards. Considering all this I'm still happy about the upgraded camera
I'm beginning to like DPP but I'm still trying to put out a decent work flow. It takes a bit getting used to after using ARC . As far as time consuming, well I can't compare converters but let me tell you compared to your 10D, 22 megs of photo at a time takes forever to process. Good luck.
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Of coarse if you upgrade to the latest PSCS then you'll probably need to upgrade your computer do to compatibility and ram issues. Isn't this fun? I believe that's the deal if I remember right but I'm old enough to claim (CRS).As for DNG I don't know all the ins and outs but DNG will convert a 50D raw file to DNG format which in turn will edit in ARC, at least in my version of PS which is CS2 (9.02). I've only converted a couple just to see if it works. The DNG version for CS2 3.7 doesn't support the 50D so I suppose neither will the DNG 2.4 for CS. What I tried was to use the DNG version 4.6 converter that goes with the raw plug in ver... 4.6 for CS3 to decode a 50D file, edit it in using my current raw converter, then photoshop as normal. If there are any drawbacks to that I don't know but it appears to work OK.
I looked it up a couple weeks ago and decided to just use the raw converter that comes with the 50D, DPP (digital photo professional) then direct transfer to photoshop as 16 bit tiff to finish the editing, you can batch process from DPP. They say that DPP is better for raw conversion than ARC is anyway when it comes to 50D files, although I think there is some controversy depending on the version of ARC. Its still a future shock since my computers are yet too out of date to handle these large files, so its time to save some more for new software, new computer and more CF cards. Considering all this I'm still happy about the upgraded camera
I'm beginning to like DPP but I'm still trying to put out a decent work flow. It takes a bit getting used to after using ARC . As far as time consuming, well I can't compare converters but let me tell you compared to your 10D, 22 megs of photo at a time takes forever to process. Good luck.
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Even with a 40D, we've been abandoned by Adobe when it comes to RAW support.
I've got CS2, and can't use it for 40D files if I want to directly convert the RAWs with Adobe Camera RAW. To do that, I'd have to buy CS3.
But there are many alternatives, and most of them are better anyhow.
First, in my opinion, it's always best to use a card reader to read cards into your computer. Using the camera body as a card reader is kind of a kludge that causes all kinds of problems for people. It kind of works, but not well, and you have problems with different programs and operating systems.
A $12 card reader will solve all of those problems and be faster, too. So first, get a good USB 2.0 card reader and then you can copy your files to your computer using Windows Explorer or any program that can manipulate files. That makes that part easy.
But then, even with your RAW files on your computer, you can't directly convert them using CS or CS2 because Adobe wants you to upgrade before they'll let you use the latest versions of Adobe Camera RAW, and you need that to get support for newer cameras.
But in my opinion, ACR is not nearly as good as Canon's free RAW converter DPP (Digital Photo Professional). So I have had zero motivation to pay Adobe for an upgrade because I almost never used their RAW converter anyhow. So while it was mildly annoying, it was no real loss for me when I got my 40D and found I could not use ACR for it.
My usual workflow is to do the RAW conversions in DPP (free and excellent) and then do the "Photoshop stuff" in CS2. Not a problem. That was my workflow all along.
If you use ACR to convert your RAWs, it's really a separate program from Photoshop anyhow, requiring you to use the very messy "Bridge". It's absolutely no faster or more convenient than having DPP and CS2 open and doing things that way. In fact, there's a command in DPP called "Transfer to Photoshop" that opens the file in Photoshop, transferring it in full 16 bit resolution.
The workaround that Adobe has is that you can convert your Canon RAWs into DNG format and then open those DNGs in ACR. But to me, that's a lot of extra work with zero benefit to me.
Finally, if you really want to use the latest version of ACR, you could just buy a copy of the latest version of Photoshop Elements and do the RAW conversion there.
But really, doing the RAW work with DPP and the Photoshop work with your older version of Photoshop is a really decent way to do things. I've been doing that for a long time because I've always preferred DPP's RAW conversions over what ACR gave me.
It just seems to be a lot less work to get the colors the way I like them. And now, DPP has lens corrections built in for many of the Canon lenses, so that's really nice.
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Jim H.
I've got CS2, and can't use it for 40D files if I want to directly convert the RAWs with Adobe Camera RAW. To do that, I'd have to buy CS3.
But there are many alternatives, and most of them are better anyhow.
First, in my opinion, it's always best to use a card reader to read cards into your computer. Using the camera body as a card reader is kind of a kludge that causes all kinds of problems for people. It kind of works, but not well, and you have problems with different programs and operating systems.
A $12 card reader will solve all of those problems and be faster, too. So first, get a good USB 2.0 card reader and then you can copy your files to your computer using Windows Explorer or any program that can manipulate files. That makes that part easy.
But then, even with your RAW files on your computer, you can't directly convert them using CS or CS2 because Adobe wants you to upgrade before they'll let you use the latest versions of Adobe Camera RAW, and you need that to get support for newer cameras.
But in my opinion, ACR is not nearly as good as Canon's free RAW converter DPP (Digital Photo Professional). So I have had zero motivation to pay Adobe for an upgrade because I almost never used their RAW converter anyhow. So while it was mildly annoying, it was no real loss for me when I got my 40D and found I could not use ACR for it.
My usual workflow is to do the RAW conversions in DPP (free and excellent) and then do the "Photoshop stuff" in CS2. Not a problem. That was my workflow all along.
If you use ACR to convert your RAWs, it's really a separate program from Photoshop anyhow, requiring you to use the very messy "Bridge". It's absolutely no faster or more convenient than having DPP and CS2 open and doing things that way. In fact, there's a command in DPP called "Transfer to Photoshop" that opens the file in Photoshop, transferring it in full 16 bit resolution.
The workaround that Adobe has is that you can convert your Canon RAWs into DNG format and then open those DNGs in ACR. But to me, that's a lot of extra work with zero benefit to me.
Finally, if you really want to use the latest version of ACR, you could just buy a copy of the latest version of Photoshop Elements and do the RAW conversion there.
But really, doing the RAW work with DPP and the Photoshop work with your older version of Photoshop is a really decent way to do things. I've been doing that for a long time because I've always preferred DPP's RAW conversions over what ACR gave me.
It just seems to be a lot less work to get the colors the way I like them. And now, DPP has lens corrections built in for many of the Canon lenses, so that's really nice.
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Jim H.
ShudderBug
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I finally had to get a card reader for the 20D, but I don't think it was because of Photoshop CS2. I could just plug in my older p&s and dl. Everything works fine w/CS2 now. I don't dl right into CS2, suppose maybe you can, don't know, just copy off my flash card to a new folder and go from there.
I got my granddaughter a 40D, and we did run into problems because of the .dng? file format. She has CS2 as well and a laptop w/Vista. I tried to find the workaround, but she ended up figuring it out for herself.
One disappointment in the above is I have that nifty little MS freebie, the RAW thumbnailer and viewer which I use almost every day. MS doesn't support that for the 40D or Vista, but that wouldn't be an issue for most as there are many ways now to browse through your photos. My granddaughter was disappointed because she had watched me breeze through the MS thumbnailer and read my .CR2 files.
I got my granddaughter a 40D, and we did run into problems because of the .dng? file format. She has CS2 as well and a laptop w/Vista. I tried to find the workaround, but she ended up figuring it out for herself.
One disappointment in the above is I have that nifty little MS freebie, the RAW thumbnailer and viewer which I use almost every day. MS doesn't support that for the 40D or Vista, but that wouldn't be an issue for most as there are many ways now to browse through your photos. My granddaughter was disappointed because she had watched me breeze through the MS thumbnailer and read my .CR2 files.
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