G2 AF - a joke?

KG50905 said:

G2's exposure is also not consistent. Like the other person said
Casio has much better metering than Canon.

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Olympus and Nikon also have better metering. Canon cameras dont care about bright areas and blow them out. I think Nikon's cams are most cautious of them all for blowing out highlight etc.

KG50905 said:

G2 over/underexposes with external flash as its not completely
controlling the flash using full E-TTL. sometimes its like they
both are working on their own.

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Ive seen some horrible shots with Canon G1 and G2 with flash.

KG50905 said:

G2 over/underexposes even in mid-daylight sometimes thinking the
small shadow part of the whole frame is more important than other.

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Yeah, the camera tries to do some kind of "smart exposure" but it ends up very bad. My Canon S10 also had inconsistent exposure issues. Both with and without flash. Its more overexposure than underexposure.

KG50905 said:

Who are G2 design engineers???

Why I bought G2? Reading specs, thinking it could be better G1. as
i have all accesseries.

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This is one thing I also learned after my Canon S10, dont trust specs. Specs doesnt make a camera! That was true for my Canon EOS300 also, which was a huge disappointment. Now uses a Pentax Mz-5n which do also have flaws, but at least delivers when looking at the specs. Canon EOS300 had like "45 zone advanced metering" and it still couldnt get exposure right.

KG50905 said:

Next Camera FOR SURE will not be CANON.

Only LCD is too good in G2 and rest all are almost comparable to
$300 camera.

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BM said:

Ok let's just say that for a non-photographer it's not a P&S
camera. Yes, anyone with any photographic experience can figure
the camera out easily but I haven't yet had a novice take one
really good shot with my G2.

As for the focus - I always leave the focus zone in the center spot
and forget about the left and right zones.

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This is where I used it too.

BM said:

It's too hard to
remember where I left all the settings from one session to the next
so I just leave it alone. I get much better, predictable results.
It's just never been a real problem. Maybe there's a quality
control issue here since some experienced users can never seem to
get a good focus at all and others have NO trouble.

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I have wondered about that too. I can't imagine any one denying a serious AF problem no matter how great the pictures look when they do come out. I have had 3- G2's to date. The first one I got about the time it came out. I only had it for a few days and gave it to my stepdaughter. I honestly did not notice any problems with it then. But then again it was still new and no AF problems had been reported yet, and I only had it for a short time. So either that one was a good one, or I simply didn't have it long enough to notice. Recently I decided to get another one to test out and investigate this focusing problem many were reporting. At first I noticed no problems, then I began to notice that the G2 appeared to lie to me. It would look like it focused properly and on what I wanted but when reviewing the images i noticed that what I intended to be focused was not, and the point of focus was either in front or behind or off to one of the sides of my target. After a couple of more days this became to be a very common result. It was missing almost as much as it was hitting! I exchanged that g2 for another and it too produced the same results. I returned the camera and explained what was happening to me, and the manager there admitted to me that he does get a g2 returned for the same reason every now and then. Either he was telling the truth or he was just saying that to make me feel better. What I do know is I had 2 cameras that I had trouble getting what I wanted in focus to focus. I'm thinking this may happen more often but most people just assume it was operator error. In fact that seems to be the most popular explaination here. I don't know if it's a quality issue or simply a inferor AF design. I was getting almost the exact same results from the S40!! If not for this problem I would be singing praises for the G2 too! It is entirely possible some cameras are worse then others. There is a problem, and people should be aware of it so they know what to look for. If they do not have this problem then great, they have a fantastic camera! I simply can't excuse it as a fluke since I had 2 in a row, and others are reporting it too.

BM said:

If the manual
focus weren't such a joke I'd use it exclusively but it almost
takes 3 hands to use it! What kind of moron designed that thing?
Pathetic.

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I agree the MF needs to be simplified, but I do like the magnify feature while MF. Pretty cool and a lot better then entering distances to MF. Hopefully the G3 will be improved. Still I don't think I will be interested in a G3. I would be interested in a new 5MP version of the Pro90 : )

Regards!

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Jim K said:

Will said:

Jim K53618 said:

Regards!!!
Jim K
How I hate the G2, let me count the ways....

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That's your problem right there. Hate is not healthy. Remember
your own advice about taking things too seriously ;-))

Regards!!!
Will

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Will it ever end? Will, humor is not part of your life? Do you take
everything so literally? The context of my reply was not to take
things so seriously, the name of the thread, G2 AF, A Joke?

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So, let me understand. You came in here to stir up some sh*t and
get people riled up and then claim you were only joking? And
that's what you find funny and call humour? mmmm

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Will you understand about as good as the AF works on the G2! Which is already a few more notches up the ladder than your understanding based on the dribble you've been expounding here.
I was only joking about the way I ended my post. You can't be that
mentally challenged can you?

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Mentally challenged? Yes, that's something you would know about. How are you doing these days? If you wanna, I can talk down to ya. If that's ok with you, lil' Jimmy K.

Jim K53618 said:

If you are I'm really very sorry, and

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Don't be sorry. You're an idiot. No need to make any excuses. We all understand.

Jim K53618 said:

I will try to explain things more on your level next time.

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In that case, look up.

Jim K53618 said:

Regards!

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Regards!
Will

Jim K said:

Will said:

Jim K said:

Will said:

Jim K53618 said:

Regards!!!
Jim K
How I hate the G2, let me count the ways....

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That's your problem right there. Hate is not healthy. Remember
your own advice about taking things too seriously ;-))

Regards!!!
Will

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Will it ever end? Will, humor is not part of your life? Do you take
everything so literally? The context of my reply was not to take
things so seriously, the name of the thread, G2 AF, A Joke?

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So, let me understand. You came in here to stir up some sh*t and
get people riled up and then claim you were only joking? And
that's what you find funny and call humour? mmmm

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Will you understand about as good as the AF works on the G2!

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Which is already a few more notches up the ladder than your understanding based on the dribble you've been expounding here. Need a few minutes to AF that? Take your time bubba.

Jim K53618 said:

I was only joking about the way I ended my post. You can't be that
mentally challenged can you? If you are I'm really very sorry, and
I will try to explain things more on your level next time.

Regards!

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Will said:

Will53889 said:

Will you understand about as good as the AF works on the G2!

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Which is already a few more notches up the ladder than your
understanding based on the dribble you've been expounding here.
Need a few minutes to AF that? Take your time bubba.

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That's gotta be a killer come back at your place of employment, which would be WalMart or CompUSA?

Regards,
Jim K

He sounds like nothing more than a blowhard to me. Your basic sh*t disturber. He must be a sad fella. Thinks he knows but really knows not much (dribble dribble). What a surprise when he wakes up from his delusions ;-))

Look at the stuff he was stirring up in another forum (one of many) with, yep, Pekka (our Pekka):

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=1775878

Pekka Saarinen said:

Member said:

yourself) in your forums?

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A good question. Jim K has continuously called me names without any reason, and without participating to any intelligent discussion about reasons for him hating me.

Pekka Saarinen

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Bob Williams said:

Andreas P. said:

Member said:

... He thinks he is a
camera reviewer.

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How so? However he seems to be a very humourous guy. He made my
day when i read his remarks about the Minolta forum/people here in
this thread...

But reviewer? So far i know he is responsible for some pornosites
(i.g. shemalecentral.com etc.) Just make a DNIC research.
This explains at least why he owns a lot of cameras.

Regards,

Andreas

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Jim K said:

Will said:

Jim K53618 said:

Will you understand about as good as the AF works on the G2!

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Which is already a few more notches up the ladder than your
understanding based on the dribble you've been expounding here.
Need a few minutes to AF that? Take your time bubba.

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That's gotta be a killer come back at your place of employment,
which would be WalMart or CompUSA?

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Oooh, did I touch a nerve? Tell me, when you are hanging around those places, you know, Walmart, CompUSA -wherever you hang around...are you one of those blowhards that try and give advice or talk down to the guys and gals who work behind the photo counter? Do they seem more impressed than we here in the Canon forum? Then what the h*ll are you doing here then? There's your audience bubba.

Jim K53618 said:

Regards,
Jim K

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Jim K said:

Will said:

Jim K53618 said:

Will you understand about as good as the AF works on the G2!

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Which is already a few more notches up the ladder than your
understanding based on the dribble you've been expounding here.
Need a few minutes to AF that? Take your time bubba.

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That's gotta be a killer come back at your place of employment,
which would be WalMart or CompUSA?

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Ooohey, what an even more impressive comeback line from you. (do ya think his ego woulda let him see the sarcasm behind that?) Don't tell me, you are saving the good stuff for later.

Jim K53618 said:

Regards,
Jim K

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You've never used the CP5000 much less owned it and yet you bash that every chance you get. That makes you a "hypocrite" and that's a fact! Heck, you haven't even proven to me that you own a G2! Where are your pictures? We know you have the internet and there are plenty of free picture hosting sites.

However, that is the last time I'm even going to acknowledge you as there is seriously something wrong with you! You've used profanity and name calling as though it makes you more credible; I would, if I were you (and this isn't a joke), seek professional help Will because you seem way too high strung to be safe. You freak out about peoples comments as though you know them and then try to verbally belittle them and for what reason? Does this really make you feel good? It can't, there is no way you can be happy with the emotions this must stir.

Below is the actual cut and paste of what you typed and you're calling me a liar? Maybe it wasn't word for word but it was just as ambiguous.

"I have nothing against your thread (I haven't been following it much).
This other guy started a thread over there and after reading what he said

here, I knew HE was trolling. I mean I suspected it but he proved it for here for me today. Hey, my wife is interested in a CP5000. See how easy that was to write."

Pete Perry wrote:
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Member said:

verbally belittle them and for what reason?

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Talk about the kettle calling the........ er, black. Take a look at some of your own posts.

You can't even get your own facts straight. Check your earlier posting here.

Member said:

Below is the actual cut and paste of what you typed and you're
calling me a liar?

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And what has changed??

Member said:

Maybe it wasn't word for word but it was just as
ambiguous.

"I have nothing against your thread (I haven't been following it
much).

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This was because Rousso, a nice fella who thought it was his thread being referred to. I had to explain that it was not. I was referring to your stuff. Selective memory again?

Member said:

This other guy started a thread over there and after reading what
he said
here, I knew HE was trolling. I mean I suspected it but he proved
it for here for me today. Hey, my wife is interested in a CP5000.
See how easy that was to write."

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You know Willie, you are starting to get on my nerves now. All you do is insult and attack and I'm getting pretty tired of your continuing personal attacks on me. May be you should read Phil's rules again becuase you are the one who seems to be having trouble following them. Just look at this thread and count how many times you have to post a reply even when it was not directed to you, often you make double replies to the same post as if you are stuttering or simply slow in the brain. If you want to have it out with me all you have to do is name the time and place or email me. That is if you are man enough. If you continue your personal attacks you will only succeed in making yourself look bad and perhaps getting yourself banned. So if you have something to say about me or to me you know my email address otherwise shut the f*ck up looser.

Regards

Will said:

Look at the stuff he was stirring up in another forum (one of many)
with, yep, Pekka (our Pekka):

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=1775878

Pekka Saarinen said:

Will53889 said:

yourself) in your forums?

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A good question. Jim K has continuously called me names without any reason, and without participating to any intelligent discussion about reasons for him hating me.

Pekka Saarinen

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Bob Williams said:

Andreas P. said:

Will53889 said:

... He thinks he is a
camera reviewer.

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How so? However he seems to be a very humourous guy. He made my
day when i read his remarks about the Minolta forum/people here in
this thread...

But reviewer? So far i know he is responsible for some pornosites
(i.g. shemalecentral.com etc.) Just make a DNIC research.
This explains at least why he owns a lot of cameras.

Regards,

Andreas

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Jim K said:

You know Willie, you are starting to get on my nerves now. All you
do is insult and attack and I'm getting pretty tired of your
continuing personal attacks on me.

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Maybe you should read your own post below. You make me laugh. Are you really that dense??

Jim K53618 said:

May be you should read Phil's
rules again becuase you are the one who seems to be having trouble
following them. Just look at this thread and count how many times
you have to post a reply even when it was not directed to you,
often you make double replies to the same post as if you are
stuttering or simply slow in the brain.

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I'm sharp enough for you, aren't I? You sound like one of those low-lifes who would make fun of the disabled. Maybe you are a little slow in the noggin yourself?? A few wires short circuit on you? Paging Jim K. Earth to bubba.

Jim K53618 said:

If you want to have it out
with me all you have to do is name the time and place or email me.

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There goes the blowhard again.

Jim K53618 said:

That is if you are man enough. If you continue your personal
attacks you will only succeed in making yourself look bad and
perhaps getting yourself banned. So if you have something to say
about me or to me you know my email address otherwise shut the f*ck
up looser.

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How loose is that?? I would advise you to take your own advice to heart. You just showed who the loser is with the verbal diarhea you just spewed. Loser ;-)) You must hear that a lot?

From the above post I can tell you are quite the trouble maker. Going into other forums just to stir up doo doo. Pekka is a very reasonable guy and you managed to get him riled. Calling him names too, I see. Boy, you haven't changed much.

Regards.
Will

Jim K53618 said:

Regards

Will said:

Look at the stuff he was stirring up in another forum (one of many)
with, yep, Pekka (our Pekka):

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=1775878

Pekka Saarinen said:

Jim K53618 said:

yourself) in your forums?

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A good question. Jim K has continuously called me names without any reason, and without participating to any intelligent discussion about reasons for him hating me.

Pekka Saarinen

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Bob Williams said:

Andreas P. said:

Jim K53618 said:

... He thinks he is a
camera reviewer.

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How so? However he seems to be a very humourous guy. He made my
day when i read his remarks about the Minolta forum/people here in
this thread...

But reviewer? So far i know he is responsible for some pornosites
(i.g. shemalecentral.com etc.) Just make a DNIC research.
This explains at least why he owns a lot of cameras.

Regards,

Andreas

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Jim K said:

often you make double replies to the same post as if you are

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Jimmy boy. Admit it...you love it. You read each and every one. You lap up the stuff. Just check all the forums you have been to and the trouble you love to stir up. You like it. What are you complaining about?

Will email me, I actually use a real email address Willie. I don't hide behind fake emails or fake identies. What ever I say to any one I would be able to say it in front of their face. My gut tells me you won't email me because you are a coward of the lowest kind. You talk sh*t on the computer, but in real life you are a coward. Prove me wrong, email me. I'm betting you don't : ))

Trying to pull the oldest stunt in the book. Desperate. Can't hold his own here. Sure was easy to pick on people in the other forums though. You really are not thinking right. Sad. I don't care for the likes of ya. Why would I correspond with you by email or any other means (except here). You want my phone number too? Are you really that out of it? Are you really that delusional? Snap out of it. Who is not thinking here?

Jim K said:

Will email me, I actually use a real email address Willie. I don't
hide behind fake emails or fake identies. What ever I say to any
one I would be able to say it in front of their face. My gut tells

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Just how big IS your gut anyway??

Jim K53618 said:

me you won't email me because you are a coward of the lowest kind.

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Go back and read your own verbage. Making fun of the disabled, over and over again. Who is the coward? Bingo! You loser ;-)) There goes that word again.

Jim K53618 said:

You talk sh*t on the computer, but in real life you are a coward.

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See above. Look in mirror.

Jim K53618 said:

Prove me wrong, email me. I'm betting you don't : ))

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You really are an idiot ;-)) Had a good laugh with that one. Keep it coming. I can use the laugh.

Regards.
Will

hmmmmm. How much intelligence would it take to figure his next reply?? ummmmmm "Told you so. add more dribble and rant here". I can read his simple mind. But then he knew that ;-))

Maybe I can pull up some more Jim K gems from the other forums where he was stirring up trouble. A sad man. Tsk. tsk.

Jim K said:

do is insult and attack and I'm getting pretty tired of your
continuing personal attacks on me.

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You need to look no further than yourself to see the reason why.

How about personal attacks on me? Blinders on when it comes to attacking others?

Jim K53618 said:

Just look at this thread and count how many times
you have to post a reply even when it was not directed to you,

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I would say almost every reply to me was from you and the other one.

Jim K53618 said:

attacks you will only succeed in making yourself look bad and

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You are doing a good job of that to yourself. What kind of low-life makes fun of people who stutter or are mentally challenged? I am sure there are a few other ones you have brought up ;-))

Bob Williams said:

When he gets on one of these rants,
he is just like Gonzo on drugs. He is doing it for our own good
according to him. I forget what he said about the Minolta forum

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Something screams medication ;-))

Mike11 said:

Yes, I've e-mailed them to you through your website. I don't yet
know how to post image files to this forum.

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pbase is the best way to do it. Instructions are easy to follow. Setting up is easy and quick. You will be ready to upload to pbase maybe 5 minutes after setting up. Once you have set it up you can link a picture to this forum.

motofoto said:

Mike

Kristian S. said:

Could you please post some of the skateboard and soccer pictures.

Kristian

Mike11 said:

The irony of all this for me is that most all of my G2 images were
sharply focused, even at my sons soccer games and his
skateboarding. Using manual mode, continuous focus and high rate
frame drive resulted in series of shots that would equal or better
my Nikon 801 35mm gear in terms of sports shots. I was actually
VERY surprised at the results.
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The difference between me and you is I am NOT a coward. I can back up all my words. I don't have to hide behind my computer or fake email address. You are a spineless coward of the lowest type. You are not a man at all. You won't email me because you are affraid I may find out your real identity. Such a chick sh*t. Go a head keep talking your sh*t. See what happens next : ))