mschira
Leading Member
Oh in case anybody wonders, the charges have been dropped...
M.
M.
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Was eventually thrown out of Courthttp://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23745203-661,00.html
Bill Henson is a recognized Australien artist, - while I don't like
these pictures (I think they are creepy) they sure are no crime.
Somethings fishy in Sydneys police
Sad but true. It's time somebody mops these idiots.
M.
Well not even thrown out of court but dropped.Was eventually thrown out of Court
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On 6 June 2008 it was reported in The Age that police will not
prosecute Bill Henson over his photographs of naked teenagers, after
they were declared "mild and justified" and given a PG rating[16] by
the Office of Film and Literature Classification, suggesting viewing
by children under the age of 16 is suitable with parental
guidance.[17]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Henson
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Yes. I know, but the Bill Henson story happened in SYDNEY, so it shows how the Sydney police ticks...But Mr. Henson of course is an "artist" (not to mention he has plenty
of money for lawyers) while the case we are discussing the guy is
poor and no money for lawyers...![]()
Dave
(snipped)Dictionary's no help, maybe the OP will be kind enough to explain?Like you I thought the same thing. Paddling may be their word forI thought it was a story about someone beating the cr@p out of a kid...
Forgive an old farts ignorance, but what the heck is "Paddling
Children?"
swimming, or maybe they had paddle boats. Then too, maybe we are
getting too old. Naw!
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FINE PRINT: I reserve the right to be wrong. Should you prove me
wrong, I reserve the right to change my mind.
One can only hope that "paddling in public" will be deemed an offense against society, and these terrible parents placed in jail where they belong for promoting public indecent exposure...(snipped)Dictionary's no help, maybe the OP will be kind enough to explain?Like you I thought the same thing. Paddling may be their word forI thought it was a story about someone beating the cr@p out of a kid...
Forgive an old farts ignorance, but what the heck is "Paddling
Children?"
swimming, or maybe they had paddle boats. Then too, maybe we are
getting too old. Naw!
--
FINE PRINT: I reserve the right to be wrong. Should you prove me
wrong, I reserve the right to change my mind.
It's a verb used to describe the action of walking/playing in shallow
water.
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Shay son of Che
do androids photograph electronic sheep?
Anyone who considers photos of kids playing around in Darling Harbour as "evidence" of child pornography is in my opinion a prime candidate for a mental examination:Police said there were no previous photos and video on the man's
mobile that were incriminating and all images were of the children
yesterday afternoon.
"That's the evidence, taking pictures of children in partial undress.
Inspector Brenton Lee from City Central Local Area Command said: "It
was a matter where it was totally inappropriate for the time and
place and I think that's what the court will look at."
Someone that poor is in no position to mount a proper defense. There is no way that he can "win."Anyone who considers photos of kids playing around in Darling HarbourPolice said there were no previous photos and video on the man's
mobile that were incriminating and all images were of the children
yesterday afternoon.
"That's the evidence, taking pictures of children in partial undress.
Inspector Brenton Lee from City Central Local Area Command said: "It
was a matter where it was totally inappropriate for the time and
place and I think that's what the court will look at."
as "evidence" of child pornography is in my opinion a prime candidate
for a mental examination:
something clearly wrong with their heads to start with...
Which in the case of many of the NSW constabulary, is long overdue
anyway!
Let's hope a sane judge does what should be done: dismiss the case
and prosecute this "Inspector" for plain, clear, citizen harassment.
Seeing as how I took some photos of my 4 year old son paddling in the sea this summer in his swimsuit, I am waiting for the knock on the door at dawn..........One can only hope that "paddling in public" will be deemed an offense(snipped)Dictionary's no help, maybe the OP will be kind enough to explain?Like you I thought the same thing. Paddling may be their word forI thought it was a story about someone beating the cr@p out of a kid...
Forgive an old farts ignorance, but what the heck is "Paddling
Children?"
swimming, or maybe they had paddle boats. Then too, maybe we are
getting too old. Naw!
--
FINE PRINT: I reserve the right to be wrong. Should you prove me
wrong, I reserve the right to change my mind.
It's a verb used to describe the action of walking/playing in shallow
water.
against society, and these terrible parents placed in jail where they
belong for promoting public indecent exposure...
Dave
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Shay son of Che
do androids photograph electronic sheep?
I should certainly hope so! Actually "parading" your child in lacivious garb, simply to tempt all of us normal people to think of children as sex objects!!! Have you no shame?Seeing as how I took some photos of my 4 year old son paddling in theOne can only hope that "paddling in public" will be deemed an offense(snipped)
It's a verb used to describe the action of walking/playing in shallow
water.
against society, and these terrible parents placed in jail where they
belong for promoting public indecent exposure...
Dave
--
Shay son of Che
do androids photograph electronic sheep?
sea this summer in his swimsuit, I am waiting for the knock on the
door at dawn..........
--
Shay son of Che
I don't have a cell phone and don't want a cell phone. But I live in New Yorks "East Village," and I am always surprised to see who uses these things.why would a "homeless" man have a working cell phone?
I can understand why a homeowner would not have a cell phone, but I'm
really dumb founded that a man without a home would have and have
paid for... a cell phone.
I know I'm old, and values are changing, but this takes the cake!
Our standard of living has reached the point were even the homeless have gone high tech.I don't have a cell phone and don't want a cell phone. But I live inwhy would a "homeless" man have a working cell phone?
I can understand why a homeowner would not have a cell phone, but I'm
really dumb founded that a man without a home would have and have
paid for... a cell phone.
I know I'm old, and values are changing, but this takes the cake!
New Yorks "East Village," and I am always surprised to see who uses
these things.
I know a few homeless guys who have such phones. They are "hustlers,"
not in the criminal sense, but in scavenging for jobs, any sort of
work. To them a cell phone makes sense - after all, they have no
home...![]()
While the man in the empty lot may have been nothing more than an eccentric soul, far too many people without homes are the displaced mentally ill. The movement to close institutions that started in the Reagan administration has left thousands of people in the lurch. They're too sick to hold jobs and often too troubled to stay with family members. The notion that they're living an alternate lifestyle complete with high tech conveniences is a misimpression. There are shelters and charities that endeavor to help people who are homeless, and it's likely that they are the ones supplying cell the phones sometimes seen in homeless hands. I would expect that there are the same number of people with pedophilia among the homeless as there are in the general population.Our standard of living has reached the point were even the homelessI don't have a cell phone and don't want a cell phone. But I live inwhy would a "homeless" man have a working cell phone?
I can understand why a homeowner would not have a cell phone, but I'm
really dumb founded that a man without a home would have and have
paid for... a cell phone.
I know I'm old, and values are changing, but this takes the cake!
New Yorks "East Village," and I am always surprised to see who uses
these things.
I know a few homeless guys who have such phones. They are "hustlers,"
not in the criminal sense, but in scavenging for jobs, any sort of
work. To them a cell phone makes sense - after all, they have no
home...![]()
have gone high tech.
The fact is some homeless do not want to live the "normal"
life-style. There was a homeless person living in an empty lot next
to an apartment complex my father lived in. He was a real friendly
man and people would offer him clothes, money, etc. He ALWAYS
refused. He worked enough to furnish his needs. I have respect for
this man. He chose his life-style and did not resent the life-style
of others nor did he think the world owed him a living.
Photograph by Jeffrey Laddpaddle.
—Idiom
I would not take exception to what you have said. There are mentally ill individuals who are homeless through no fault of there own. They are incapable or rationale thought, i.e. mental illness. With this said I would like you to consider the following.While the man in the empty lot may have been nothing more than an
eccentric soul, far too many people without homes are the displaced
mentally ill. The movement to close institutions that started in the
Reagan administration has left thousands of people in the lurch.
They're too sick to hold jobs and often too troubled to stay with
family members. The notion that they're living an alternate lifestyle
complete with high tech conveniences is a misimpression. There are
shelters and charities that endeavor to help people who are homeless,
and it's likely that they are the ones supplying cell the phones
sometimes seen in homeless hands. I would expect that there are the
same number of people with pedophilia among the homeless as there are
in the general population.
I know it is commonly believed that it was the Reagan administration that displaced the mentally ill but that was not the case. It grew from the idea that many of those being housed as mentally ill could be treated on an out patient basis and hospitalization was not necessary. In California it was the Short-Doyle Act enacted in 1957. Similar legislation was passed in other States. The idea was not wrong but it did not provide for any increased resources for out patient care. Facilities that were available simply could not handle the increased patient loads.While the man in the empty lot may have been nothing more than an
eccentric soul, far too many people without homes are the displaced
mentally ill. The movement to close institutions that started in the
Reagan administration has left thousands of people in the lurch.
You're baiting me, right? How does someone choose psychosis? Schizophrenia? Manic depressive disorder?I would not take exception to what you have said. There are mentallyWhile the man in the empty lot may have been nothing more than an
eccentric soul, far too many people without homes are the displaced
mentally ill. The movement to close institutions that started in the
Reagan administration has left thousands of people in the lurch.
They're too sick to hold jobs and often too troubled to stay with
family members. The notion that they're living an alternate lifestyle
complete with high tech conveniences is a misimpression. There are
shelters and charities that endeavor to help people who are homeless,
and it's likely that they are the ones supplying cell the phones
sometimes seen in homeless hands. I would expect that there are the
same number of people with pedophilia among the homeless as there are
in the general population.
ill individuals who are homeless through no fault of there own. They
are incapable or rationale thought, i.e. mental illness. With this
said I would like you to consider the following.
When we talk about the homeless we often associate it with a state of
mental illness. My two part question is this: Part 1: How do we
distinguish between mental illness, which is ones inability to think
rationally resulting from some physical or mental imbalance, and
those who have "chosen" not to think rationally? Part 2: Why is it
our society seems to avoid making this distinction?
Those that through no fault of their own are mentally ill and deserve
help, are deprived of those resources given to those who "chose" not
to think and are held back because of their choices.