Paddling toddler photos 'porn'

[mschira]

Oh in case anybody wonders, the charges have been dropped...
M.

 

[Chato]

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23745203-661,00.html
Bill Henson is a recognized Australien artist, - while I don't like
these pictures (I think they are creepy) they sure are no crime.
Somethings fishy in Sydneys police
Sad but true. It's time somebody mops these idiots.

M.

Was eventually thrown out of Court

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On 6 June 2008 it was reported in The Age that police will not prosecute Bill Henson over his photographs of naked teenagers, after they were declared "mild and justified" and given a PG rating[16] by the Office of Film and Literature Classification, suggesting viewing by children under the age of 16 is suitable with parental guidance.[17]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Henson
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But Mr. Henson of course is an "artist" (not to mention he has plenty of money for lawyers) while the case we are discussing the guy is poor and no money for lawyers...

Dave

 

[mschira]

Was eventually thrown out of Court

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On 6 June 2008 it was reported in The Age that police will not
prosecute Bill Henson over his photographs of naked teenagers, after
they were declared "mild and justified" and given a PG rating[16] by
the Office of Film and Literature Classification, suggesting viewing
by children under the age of 16 is suitable with parental
guidance.[17]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Henson
*********************

Well not even thrown out of court but dropped.

But Mr. Henson of course is an "artist" (not to mention he has plenty
of money for lawyers) while the case we are discussing the guy is
poor and no money for lawyers...

Yes. I know, but the Bill Henson story happened in SYDNEY, so it shows how the Sydney police ticks...

And they probably need to find offenders to justify their existence, the more they find the more important they are. So they pick poor dudes.

M.

Dave

 

[RedFox88]

why weren't the parents that had the kids in a state of half-undress arrested for having their kids doing live porn for everyone in that park? See how ridiculous that sounds?

 

[shay guevara]

I thought it was a story about someone beating the cr@p out of a kid...

Forgive an old farts ignorance, but what the heck is "Paddling
Children?"

Like you I thought the same thing. Paddling may be their word for
swimming, or maybe they had paddle boats. Then too, maybe we are
getting too old. Naw!

--
FINE PRINT: I reserve the right to be wrong. Should you prove me
wrong, I reserve the right to change my mind.

Dictionary's no help, maybe the OP will be kind enough to explain?

(snipped)

It's a verb used to describe the action of walking/playing in shallow water.

--
Shay son of Che

do androids photograph electronic sheep?

 

[Chato]

I thought it was a story about someone beating the cr@p out of a kid...

Forgive an old farts ignorance, but what the heck is "Paddling
Children?"

Like you I thought the same thing. Paddling may be their word for
swimming, or maybe they had paddle boats. Then too, maybe we are
getting too old. Naw!

--
FINE PRINT: I reserve the right to be wrong. Should you prove me
wrong, I reserve the right to change my mind.

Dictionary's no help, maybe the OP will be kind enough to explain?

(snipped)

It's a verb used to describe the action of walking/playing in shallow
water.

One can only hope that "paddling in public" will be deemed an offense against society, and these terrible parents placed in jail where they belong for promoting public indecent exposure...

Dave

--
Shay son of Che

do androids photograph electronic sheep?

 

[Nuno Souto]

Police said there were no previous photos and video on the man's
mobile that were incriminating and all images were of the children
yesterday afternoon.
"That's the evidence, taking pictures of children in partial undress.
Inspector Brenton Lee from City Central Local Area Command said: "It
was a matter where it was totally inappropriate for the time and
place and I think that's what the court will look at."

Anyone who considers photos of kids playing around in Darling Harbour as "evidence" of child pornography is in my opinion a prime candidate for a mental examination:
something clearly wrong with their heads to start with...

Which in the case of many of the NSW constabulary, is long overdue anyway!

Let's hope a sane judge does what should be done: dismiss the case and prosecute this "Inspector" for plain, clear, citizen harassment.

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Cheers
Nuno Souto

 

[Chato]

Police said there were no previous photos and video on the man's
mobile that were incriminating and all images were of the children
yesterday afternoon.
"That's the evidence, taking pictures of children in partial undress.
Inspector Brenton Lee from City Central Local Area Command said: "It
was a matter where it was totally inappropriate for the time and
place and I think that's what the court will look at."

Anyone who considers photos of kids playing around in Darling Harbour
as "evidence" of child pornography is in my opinion a prime candidate
for a mental examination:
something clearly wrong with their heads to start with...

Which in the case of many of the NSW constabulary, is long overdue
anyway!

Let's hope a sane judge does what should be done: dismiss the case
and prosecute this "Inspector" for plain, clear, citizen harassment.

Someone that poor is in no position to mount a proper defense. There is no way that he can "win."

Dave

My gallery: http://wizofoz2k.deviantart.com/gallery/#_browse
Cheers
Nuno Souto

 

[shay guevara]

I thought it was a story about someone beating the cr@p out of a kid...

Forgive an old farts ignorance, but what the heck is "Paddling
Children?"

Like you I thought the same thing. Paddling may be their word for
swimming, or maybe they had paddle boats. Then too, maybe we are
getting too old. Naw!

--
FINE PRINT: I reserve the right to be wrong. Should you prove me
wrong, I reserve the right to change my mind.

Dictionary's no help, maybe the OP will be kind enough to explain?

(snipped)

It's a verb used to describe the action of walking/playing in shallow
water.

One can only hope that "paddling in public" will be deemed an offense
against society, and these terrible parents placed in jail where they
belong for promoting public indecent exposure...

Dave

--
Shay son of Che

do androids photograph electronic sheep?

Seeing as how I took some photos of my 4 year old son paddling in the sea this summer in his swimsuit, I am waiting for the knock on the door at dawn..........
--
Shay son of Che

do androids photograph electronic sheep?

 

[Chato]

(snipped)

It's a verb used to describe the action of walking/playing in shallow
water.

One can only hope that "paddling in public" will be deemed an offense
against society, and these terrible parents placed in jail where they
belong for promoting public indecent exposure...

Dave

--
Shay son of Che

do androids photograph electronic sheep?

Seeing as how I took some photos of my 4 year old son paddling in the
sea this summer in his swimsuit, I am waiting for the knock on the
door at dawn..........
--
Shay son of Che

I should certainly hope so! Actually "parading" your child in lacivious garb, simply to tempt all of us normal people to think of children as sex objects!!! Have you no shame?

Hmm? Opps, I better delete the pics I took of kids with my dog... They were wearing bathing suits as well. What was I thinking?



Dave

 

[Old Pirate]

why would a "homeless" man have a working cell phone?

I can understand why a homeowner would not have a cell phone, but I'm really dumb founded that a man without a home would have and have paid for... a cell phone.

I know I'm old, and values are changing, but this takes the cake!

 

[Chato]

why would a "homeless" man have a working cell phone?

I can understand why a homeowner would not have a cell phone, but I'm
really dumb founded that a man without a home would have and have
paid for... a cell phone.

I know I'm old, and values are changing, but this takes the cake!

I don't have a cell phone and don't want a cell phone. But I live in New Yorks "East Village," and I am always surprised to see who uses these things.

I know a few homeless guys who have such phones. They are "hustlers," not in the criminal sense, but in scavenging for jobs, any sort of work. To them a cell phone makes sense - after all, they have no home...

Dave

 

[Bill Randall]

why would a "homeless" man have a working cell phone?

I can understand why a homeowner would not have a cell phone, but I'm
really dumb founded that a man without a home would have and have
paid for... a cell phone.

I know I'm old, and values are changing, but this takes the cake!

I don't have a cell phone and don't want a cell phone. But I live in
New Yorks "East Village," and I am always surprised to see who uses
these things.

I know a few homeless guys who have such phones. They are "hustlers,"
not in the criminal sense, but in scavenging for jobs, any sort of
work. To them a cell phone makes sense - after all, they have no
home...

Our standard of living has reached the point were even the homeless have gone high tech.

The fact is some homeless do not want to live the "normal" life-style. There was a homeless person living in an empty lot next to an apartment complex my father lived in. He was a real friendly man and people would offer him clothes, money, etc. He ALWAYS refused. He worked enough to furnish his needs. I have respect for this man. He chose his life-style and did not resent the life-style of others nor did he think the world owed him a living.

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FINE PRINT: I reserve the right to be wrong. Should you prove me wrong, I reserve the right to change my mind.

 

[Soenda]

why would a "homeless" man have a working cell phone?

I can understand why a homeowner would not have a cell phone, but I'm
really dumb founded that a man without a home would have and have
paid for... a cell phone.

I know I'm old, and values are changing, but this takes the cake!

I don't have a cell phone and don't want a cell phone. But I live in
New Yorks "East Village," and I am always surprised to see who uses
these things.

I know a few homeless guys who have such phones. They are "hustlers,"
not in the criminal sense, but in scavenging for jobs, any sort of
work. To them a cell phone makes sense - after all, they have no
home...

Our standard of living has reached the point were even the homeless
have gone high tech.

The fact is some homeless do not want to live the "normal"
life-style. There was a homeless person living in an empty lot next
to an apartment complex my father lived in. He was a real friendly
man and people would offer him clothes, money, etc. He ALWAYS
refused. He worked enough to furnish his needs. I have respect for
this man. He chose his life-style and did not resent the life-style
of others nor did he think the world owed him a living.

While the man in the empty lot may have been nothing more than an eccentric soul, far too many people without homes are the displaced mentally ill. The movement to close institutions that started in the Reagan administration has left thousands of people in the lurch. They're too sick to hold jobs and often too troubled to stay with family members. The notion that they're living an alternate lifestyle complete with high tech conveniences is a misimpression. There are shelters and charities that endeavor to help people who are homeless, and it's likely that they are the ones supplying cell the phones sometimes seen in homeless hands. I would expect that there are the same number of people with pedophilia among the homeless as there are in the general population.

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[Diopter]

paddle.
—Idiom

Photograph by Jeffrey Ladd



Image Location:
http://www.jeffreyladd.com/passing/13-1990-1126-08.html

Jeffrey Ladd home page: http://www.jeffreyladd.com

(-)

 

[Bill Randall]

While the man in the empty lot may have been nothing more than an
eccentric soul, far too many people without homes are the displaced
mentally ill. The movement to close institutions that started in the
Reagan administration has left thousands of people in the lurch.
They're too sick to hold jobs and often too troubled to stay with
family members. The notion that they're living an alternate lifestyle
complete with high tech conveniences is a misimpression. There are
shelters and charities that endeavor to help people who are homeless,
and it's likely that they are the ones supplying cell the phones
sometimes seen in homeless hands. I would expect that there are the
same number of people with pedophilia among the homeless as there are
in the general population.

I would not take exception to what you have said. There are mentally ill individuals who are homeless through no fault of there own. They are incapable or rationale thought, i.e. mental illness. With this said I would like you to consider the following.

When we talk about the homeless we often associate it with a state of mental illness. My two part question is this: Part 1: How do we distinguish between mental illness, which is ones inability to think rationally resulting from some physical or mental imbalance, and those who have "chosen" not to think rationally? Part 2: Why is it our society seems to avoid making this distinction?

Those that through no fault of their own are mentally ill and deserve help, are deprived of those resources given to those who "chose" not to think and are held back because of their choices.

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FINE PRINT: I reserve the right to be wrong. Should you prove me wrong, I reserve the right to change my mind.

 

[Chato]

paddle.
—Idiom

This should rock your world....

Enjoy!



Dave

 

[Diopter]

paddle.
—Idiom

This should rock your world....

Enjoy!



Dave

It really does!

It looks, like he is getting his sexual gratification by swallowing whole fresh Lolitas.

Your understanding of the wilderness and nature photography is much deeper than I previously thought.
(-)

 

[Chipsthe1]

While the man in the empty lot may have been nothing more than an
eccentric soul, far too many people without homes are the displaced
mentally ill. The movement to close institutions that started in the
Reagan administration has left thousands of people in the lurch.

I know it is commonly believed that it was the Reagan administration that displaced the mentally ill but that was not the case. It grew from the idea that many of those being housed as mentally ill could be treated on an out patient basis and hospitalization was not necessary. In California it was the Short-Doyle Act enacted in 1957. Similar legislation was passed in other States. The idea was not wrong but it did not provide for any increased resources for out patient care. Facilities that were available simply could not handle the increased patient loads.

It was a State by State movement and there was really no connection to the Reagan Administration. There is excellent information about Short-Doyle at this URL:

http://lang.sbsun.com/projects/lostamongus/displayarticle.asp?part=2&article=art01_main&page=5

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[Soenda]

While the man in the empty lot may have been nothing more than an
eccentric soul, far too many people without homes are the displaced
mentally ill. The movement to close institutions that started in the
Reagan administration has left thousands of people in the lurch.
They're too sick to hold jobs and often too troubled to stay with
family members. The notion that they're living an alternate lifestyle
complete with high tech conveniences is a misimpression. There are
shelters and charities that endeavor to help people who are homeless,
and it's likely that they are the ones supplying cell the phones
sometimes seen in homeless hands. I would expect that there are the
same number of people with pedophilia among the homeless as there are
in the general population.

I would not take exception to what you have said. There are mentally
ill individuals who are homeless through no fault of there own. They
are incapable or rationale thought, i.e. mental illness. With this
said I would like you to consider the following.

When we talk about the homeless we often associate it with a state of
mental illness. My two part question is this: Part 1: How do we
distinguish between mental illness, which is ones inability to think
rationally resulting from some physical or mental imbalance, and
those who have "chosen" not to think rationally? Part 2: Why is it
our society seems to avoid making this distinction?

Those that through no fault of their own are mentally ill and deserve
help, are deprived of those resources given to those who "chose" not
to think and are held back because of their choices.

You're baiting me, right? How does someone choose psychosis? Schizophrenia? Manic depressive disorder?

You couldn't really be saying that some people choose to be mentally ill? Or more like cigarettes, as in "If you smoke, you have only yourself to blame for getting cancer?"

Or are you referring to how some mentally ill people avoid taking their medications because of the debilitating side effects? "If they wanted to be healthy, they'd take their meds!"?

Or someone with raging alcoholism, or drug addiction: "Suck it up!"?

These are all brain disorders, and while it's hard sometimes to draw bright lines between diagnoses, there's no pay off for faking it.

It's a popular dodge in Western culture to blame the victim for the problem, but I have to say that I've never heard anyone posit before that people choose to be mentally ill.

I don't know how to respond to your question without understanding what you mean.

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