I turned to dark side but 50D rescued me

Hi Canon fans,

I owned a XTI since they came out couple of years ago and it was my first DSLR ever used, as i learned more about photography more i am into it. Later i realized the disadvantage of XTI and decided to upgrade something more, at the same time Nikon released the D90 with more features than XTI so i bought one as it arrives at the local Ritz store. However i found few dead / stuck pixel showing up in the middle of the picture with less than 10 pictures i took with it so I returned it back to the store. That was the only unit in the store so i stayed with my XTI until today as i picked up the 50D.

I posted in Nikon forum about why i return the unit and few of them replied with some rude comments, some implicitly called me dumb. I understand that dead pixels will eventually happen and it is almost unpreventable but i couldn't stand how i spent 1300 USD on the camera which has dead pixel in the first 2 days under my ownership, I think it is unacceptable and i didn't purposely mess it up. But now i am back with you guys that can guide me to next level of photography and unlike those Nikon fans that intimidate me like a ******.

Congratulations on your new camera! Now go out and do some serious shooting and post your pics so we can enjoy them.
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Canon 30d, Canon Rebel 400D - Canon Powershot Pro, Nikon CP5200, Canon 18-55mm - Canon 50 f/1.8 -Canon 85 f/1.8, Canon 28-135mm IS - Canon 75-300mm, Tamron SP AF 180mm f/3.5 Di Macro

Every forum, every camera brand, has their share of idiots and fanboys, unfortunately. I'm very sure this forum is no different.

Have fun with your 50D.

dualmax said:

I posted in Nikon forum about why i return the unit and few of them
replied with some rude comments, some implicitly called me dumb.

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Actually, I read that thread, and the reason some make a few comments was that you started out a thread basically JUST saying something like "I didn't like my D90 so I took it back to the store" and ended it at that - with no further explanations. You received some, "well - duh - ok" replies, but you should have gone into details as to why you were unhappy, why you took it back, what you decided to do (trade, swap, etc)... instead of just saying you didn't like it and took it back, period. I don't remember anyone calling you "stupid" in that thread, either. Hey, I'm the first to say that some Nikon people turn into jackasses in that forum, but when you post something you have to give details as well, so YOU don't look like someone who's just in there to start a controversial thread, too.

That being said, you are correct - a NEW camera should be dead pixel free. Some disagree with that, but I don't. When you buy a new camera and get it home, you shouldn't have dead pixels glaring at you in the center of an image. It's only when enough people return them and manufacturers have to deal with enough returns, that they get back to the old days when quality control was better than it is today.

I hope you thoroughly test your 50D out, too. So far the few owners who are using it aren't reporting issues with dead pixels. You may also wish to check the thread that's going on about turning OFF the "auto lighting optimizer" that's automatically turned on in the custom menu - it's adding noise to the images.

Greg Henry said:

dualmax said:

I posted in Nikon forum about why i return the unit and few of them
replied with some rude comments, some implicitly called me dumb.

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Actually, I read that thread, and the reason some make a few comments
was that you started out a thread basically JUST saying something
like "I didn't like my D90 so I took it back to the store" and ended
it at that - with no further explanations. You received some, "well

• duh - ok" replies, but you should have gone into details as to why

you were unhappy, why you took it back, what you decided to do
(trade, swap, etc)... instead of just saying you didn't like it and
took it back, period. I don't remember anyone calling you "stupid"
in that thread, either. Hey, I'm the first to say that some Nikon
people turn into jackasses in that forum, but when you post something
you have to give details as well, so YOU don't look like someone
who's just in there to start a controversial thread, too.

That being said, you are correct - a NEW camera should be dead pixel
free. Some disagree with that, but I don't. When you buy a new
camera and get it home, you shouldn't have dead pixels glaring at you
in the center of an image. It's only when enough people return them
and manufacturers have to deal with enough returns, that they get
back to the old days when quality control was better than it is today.

I hope you thoroughly test your 50D out, too. So far the few owners
who are using it aren't reporting issues with dead pixels. You may
also wish to check the thread that's going on about turning OFF the
"auto lighting optimizer" that's automatically turned on in the
custom menu - it's adding noise to the images.

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Thanks for your comment above, i will following the tips regarding turning off the auto-lighting function.

I have been reading the comments from new 50D owners with one eye for consistent problems or difficulties they may be having and I have noticed that it isn't happening! No underexposure, overexposure, back focus, front focus, NO focus, dust on the sensor, dead pixels etc. Now at the risk of jinxing everyone, this is very encouraging and a welcome change and perhaps indicative of an improvement in quality control at Canon?

Good luck one and all (and especially me as I will not be able to hold out to temptation much longer!)

@OP - I read those threads, what did you expect?

I think you are playing dumb. I think you knew exactly the response you would get.

I assume you have posted on the mighty internet enough times to know that 2 out of 5 people will have lame/rude answers anyway. Grow some thicker skin.

You neglected to mention your post in the same forum 1 week prior in which you proclaim yourself to the forum, pontificating over the D90 & sb600 and it's virtues. You talk about how you are charging the battery up and were looking forward to the fine Nikon forum members to help you achieve the next level in your.... blah, blah, blah...

Every single response in that thread was warm, welcoming and nice. Everyone.

So, dualmax, try this. Go back to the Nikon forum and try posting something like this -

'Hi everyone in Nikon land, I am a new Nikon user and just wanted to say hi, and that I am experiencing what seems to be dead pixels. here is a sample or two for you to look at. What would your advise be?'

------- then --------

go back and word it like this -

'I just returned the lame D90 because Nikon factory sucks. Bye.'

I wonder which will get 'nice' responses and which will get 'your lame'??

But lets be serious. Like I said, you knew the responses you would get.

Try replacing 'D90' with '50D' and post it here in Canon. That will be fun for you while you sit at home and measure-bate...

Figuring one does their due diligence to select a particular DSLR body (a system, no less), turning away from that decision for such a reason just makes no sense at all.

Here's hoping that 50D has no stuck dust motes (otherwise, Sony here we come).

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...Bob, NYC

'Well, sometimes the magic works. Sometimes, it doesn't.' - Little Big Man

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dualmax said:

I posted in Nikon forum about why i return the unit and few of them
replied with some rude comments, some implicitly called me dumb.

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That is the way they treat people that do not agree with them at the
nikon forum. But that would never happen here. Wellcome back.
One advice watch what you say here about nikon you might get banned
by this pro nikon moderators!
I

dualmax said:

understand that dead pixels will eventually happen and it is almost
unpreventable but i couldn't stand how i spent 1300 USD on the camera
which has dead pixel in the first 2 days under my ownership, I think
it is unacceptable and i didn't purposely mess it up.

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I here there iare focusing problems with some of therir cameras and soft image

results from too much noise reduction they get trying to compete with canone CMOS technogogy but nobody can say anythiing about it here so shssss

But now i am

dualmax said:

back with you guys that can guide me to next level of photography and
unlike those Nikon fans that intimidate me like a ******.

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Wellcome back young jedi from the dark side.

Respectfully I must disagree. There are plenty of posts in our fourm where someone has written something less than flattering about a Canon product and are immediately attacked and/or cited for trolling. If one were to read their post all they did was to just explain what their experience/problem was and why they retuned the unit.

Chris59 said:

I have been reading the comments from new 50D owners with one eye for
consistent problems or difficulties they may be having and I have
noticed that it isn't happening! No underexposure, overexposure,
back focus, front focus, NO focus, dust on the sensor, dead pixels
etc. Now at the risk of jinxing everyone, this is very encouraging
and a welcome change and perhaps indicative of an improvement in
quality control at Canon?

Good luck one and all (and especially me as I will not be able to
hold out to temptation much longer!)

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don't worry they will chime in soon enough as the best buys and circuity city's of the world sell more "kits".
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Forty Dee (soon to be Fifty Dee) paired with the Seventy-Two Hundred IS f4L and the Seventeen-FiftyFive IS f2.8 capped off with B+W MRC UV filters and a few Kaesemann Circular Polarizers. All safely wrapped and easily carried in a Kata R102 backpack... constantly growing.

kgreggbruce08 said:

@OP - I read those threads, what did you expect?

I think you are playing dumb. I think you knew exactly the response
you would get.

I assume you have posted on the mighty internet enough times to know
that 2 out of 5 people will have lame/rude answers anyway. Grow some
thicker skin.

You neglected to mention your post in the same forum 1 week prior in
which you proclaim yourself to the forum, pontificating over the D90
& sb600 and it's virtues. You talk about how you are charging the
battery up and were looking forward to the fine Nikon forum members
to help you achieve the next level in your.... blah, blah, blah...

Every single response in that thread was warm, welcoming and nice.
Everyone.

So, dualmax, try this. Go back to the Nikon forum and try posting
something like this -

'Hi everyone in Nikon land, I am a new Nikon user and just wanted to
say hi, and that I am experiencing what seems to be dead pixels. here
is a sample or two for you to look at. What would your advise be?'

------- then --------

go back and word it like this -

'I just returned the lame D90 because Nikon factory sucks. Bye.'

I wonder which will get 'nice' responses and which will get 'your
lame'??

But lets be serious. Like I said, you knew the responses you would get.

Try replacing 'D90' with '50D' and post it here in Canon. That will
be fun for you while you sit at home and measure-bate...

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while each forum has it's share of fanboys,trolls,snobs, etc....

when i asked a simple question about the d300 shortly after it's release (considering a switch and not knowing much about nikon and how to decipher its lens nomenclature) i was met with responses that were anything but warm, helpful or otherwise positive.

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Forty Dee (soon to be Fifty Dee) paired with the Seventy-Two Hundred IS f4L and the Seventeen-FiftyFive IS f2.8 capped off with B+W MRC UV filters and a few Kaesemann Circular Polarizers. All safely wrapped and easily carried in a Kata R102 backpack... constantly growing.

Happen to have a link to your post that you mentioned?

-Suntan