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Imagine if you will, a nikon 50mm F1.2 - or even F1.0. The technology is there. Is it the cost of producing such a lens? I know you can shoot cleanly at 6400iso etc but what about when you want to shoot at 400iso in dark conditions? Come on Nikon, if you release one of these, I'll buy it!

On the subject of lenses, when I was cleaning my 24-70mm 2.8g last night, I noticed a few "specs" on the inner lenses (from the back of the lens). They look like tiny bits of dust - does anyone else suffer this? I'm going to the Nikon service centre in a few days so will certainly be asking about it........unless it's normal? There's not a lot, one or maybe but it's just weird........
 
Adman said:
Imagine if you will, a nikon 50mm F1.2 - or even F1.0. The
technology is there. Is it the cost of producing such a lens? I
know you can shoot cleanly at 6400iso etc but what about when you
want to shoot at 400iso in dark conditions? Come on Nikon, if you
release one of these, I'll buy it!
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Honestly, having the ability to shoot ISO 6400, and having a F1.4 lens should be enough. Do you honestly feel that having a 50mm f1.2 lens would give you an image you couldn't get with a 50 f1.4?
Adman222820 said:
On the subject of lenses, when I was cleaning my 24-70mm 2.8g last
night, I noticed a few "specs" on the inner lenses (from the back of
the lens). They look like tiny bits of dust - does anyone else
suffer this? I'm going to the Nikon service centre in a few days so
will certainly be asking about it........unless it's normal? There's
not a lot, one or maybe but it's just weird........
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Lens dust seems normal, even though I hate knowing that it's there.
In most cases, you'll never see it in any images.
 
Anthony said:
Adman said:
Imagine if you will, a nikon 50mm F1.2 - or even F1.0. The
technology is there. Is it the cost of producing such a lens? I
know you can shoot cleanly at 6400iso etc but what about when you
want to shoot at 400iso in dark conditions? Come on Nikon, if you
release one of these, I'll buy it!
Click to expand...
Honestly, having the ability to shoot ISO 6400, and having a F1.4
lens should be enough. Do you honestly feel that having a 50mm f1.2
lens would give you an image you couldn't get with a 50 f1.4?
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Of course, you are completely right - I'm a sucker for low f stops is all!! I've got a funny feeling that Nikon will do something big on this horizon - even if it's only to update the 1.4 they've already got. Bring on photokina!
Anthony14707 said:
Anthony14707 said:
On the subject of lenses, when I was cleaning my 24-70mm 2.8g last
night, I noticed a few "specs" on the inner lenses (from the back of
the lens). They look like tiny bits of dust - does anyone else
suffer this? I'm going to the Nikon service centre in a few days so
will certainly be asking about it........unless it's normal? There's
not a lot, one or maybe but it's just weird........
Click to expand...
Lens dust seems normal, even though I hate knowing that it's there.
In most cases, you'll never see it in any images.
Click to expand...
Again, you are spot (ha! pardon the pun!) on. Was just curious if it was just me. And you're right, no sign of it on pics - but frustrating on a lens that costs this much!

Cheers
AJ
 
Rumle said:
... do I have to imagine that, I have one right here ;) a nikkor 50 1.2
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http://www.rumleskafte.com
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LOL....thanks Rumle......sounds like you are one of the lucky ones!

I stupidly traded my old 28-105(micro) a month ago and miss it terribly. I even went to convince them to sell it back to me but it was already sold...........Oh well, the 14-24mm 2.8 that I upgraded to will have to "do"....hahaha....
 
Adman said:
Imagine if you will, a nikon 50mm F1.2 - or even F1.0. The
technology is there. Is it the cost of producing such a lens? I
know you can shoot cleanly at 6400iso etc but what about when you
want to shoot at 400iso in dark conditions?
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Having use the legendary Nikkor 58 mm f1.2 Noct for some time, I decided to sell it.

The gap between 1.2 and 1.4 is small, and the downside in terms of weight, price and overall performance is not worth it.

I prefer by far a very good 50 mm f1.4 vs an average f1.2.

Cheers,
Bernard
 
Adman said:
On the subject of lenses, when I was cleaning my 24-70mm 2.8g last
night, I noticed a few "specs" on the inner lenses (from the back of
the lens). They look like tiny bits of dust - does anyone else
suffer this? I'm going to the Nikon service centre in a few days so
will certainly be asking about it........unless it's normal? There's
not a lot, one or maybe but it's just weird........
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Some dust is normal. Take a picture of a grey card at f/16. I have about a dozen specs in the 24-70mm lens elements close to the rear. I'm growing weary of painting them out and will try the dust removal reference photo feature in NX2. The specs usually don't bother me as much when shooting wider, but there are always two that seem to fall on someone's face. Ask Nikon to fix this.
 
I really recommend getting a 50mm f1.2 used, its cheap. performance are seen better. But out of my five lenses all (pro-grade AFs and all the dingle or the sweet Ziesses) this is the one that mostly glued to my D700. On DX its not that attractive.
--
http://www.rumleskafte.com
 
Rumle said:
I really recommend getting a 50mm f1.2 used, its cheap. performance
are seen better. But out of my five lenses all (pro-grade AFs and all
the dingle or the sweet Ziesses) this is the one that mostly glued to
my D700. On DX its not that attractive.
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http://www.rumleskafte.com
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Agreed.

I really like the 50/1.2 on the D3... such a wonderful lens and it can be had new for fairly cheap too...
Not my most used, but definitely one of my favourites.
--
Thomas

Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool
http://main.duplophotography.com/
 
that sounds like dust on the sensor, not on the lens.

--
http://pbase.com/ottosphotos

http://www.ottosphotos.com


sting said:
Take a picture of a grey card at f/16. I have
about a dozen specs in the 24-70mm lens elements close to the rear.
I'm growing weary of painting them out and will try the dust removal
reference photo feature in NX2. The specs usually don't bother me as
much when shooting wider, but there are always two that seem to fall
on someone's face.
Click to expand...
 
Adman said:
Anthony said:
Adman said:
Imagine if you will, a nikon 50mm F1.2 - or even F1.0. The
technology is there. Is it the cost of producing such a lens? I
know you can shoot cleanly at 6400iso etc but what about when you
want to shoot at 400iso in dark conditions? Come on Nikon, if you
release one of these, I'll buy it!
Click to expand...
Honestly, having the ability to shoot ISO 6400, and having a F1.4
lens should be enough. Do you honestly feel that having a 50mm f1.2
lens would give you an image you couldn't get with a 50 f1.4?
Click to expand...
Of course, you are completely right - I'm a sucker for low f stops is
all!! I've got a funny feeling that Nikon will do something big on
this horizon - even if it's only to update the 1.4 they've already
got. Bring on photokina!
Click to expand...
I agree with you, even if I could shoot at ISO 57.600 and have a clean shot, I would still fancy a fast prime :)
Adman222820 said:
Adman222820 said:
Adman222820 said:
On the subject of lenses, when I was cleaning my 24-70mm 2.8g last
night, I noticed a few "specs" on the inner lenses (from the back of
the lens). They look like tiny bits of dust - does anyone else
suffer this? I'm going to the Nikon service centre in a few days so
will certainly be asking about it........unless it's normal? There's
not a lot, one or maybe but it's just weird........
Click to expand...
Lens dust seems normal, even though I hate knowing that it's there.
In most cases, you'll never see it in any images.
Click to expand...
Again, you are spot (ha! pardon the pun!) on. Was just curious if it
was just me. And you're right, no sign of it on pics - but
frustrating on a lens that costs this much!
Click to expand...
Ha ha. ya dust in the lens is the worst thing, even worse than sand in the bed ;(
Adman222820 said:
Cheers
AJ
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--
http://www.rumleskafte.com
 
Rumle said:
I really recommend getting a 50mm f1.2 used, its cheap. performance
are seen better. But out of my five lenses all (pro-grade AFs and all
the dingle or the sweet Ziesses) this is the one that mostly glued to
my D700.
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Heh. I have always been fond of my 50mm 1.8, but just scored a very nice, barely used 50mm 1.2 for a reasonable price and am REALLY looking forward to seeing what it, the D700, and I can do together. Besides, my 1.8 is the only glass I have with dust, and although it doesn't affect IQ that I can tell, it still BUGS me.

Poor guy who sold the 1.2 to me ... he was selling a bunch of camera stuff to be able to afford a D700 ... IMO, he is going to be soooooo sorry ...

-- fishingcat
 
There is a noticable difference between the EF50/1.2 and the Nikkor 50/1.4.
The difference is worth the hike in price to me (easily).

If Nikkor releases a new 50/1.2 that is as good as the Canon, I'll get it.

Like Thom Hogan has said several times, the past several Nikkor 50s have not been very special. The latest design is decent (according to Thom), I say its quite good, but considering how much I shoot in the dark, I'm waiting for exceptional.

Snapshot with a EF50/1.2 in my kitchen from last year.



Anothe snapshot in the street infront of a convenience store.

 
sting said:
Adman said:
On the subject of lenses, when I was cleaning my 24-70mm 2.8g last
night, I noticed a few "specs" on the inner lenses (from the back of
the lens). They look like tiny bits of dust - does anyone else
suffer this? I'm going to the Nikon service centre in a few days so
will certainly be asking about it........unless it's normal? There's
not a lot, one or maybe but it's just weird........
Click to expand...
Some dust is normal. Take a picture of a grey card at f/16. I have
about a dozen specs in the 24-70mm lens elements close to the rear.
I'm growing weary of painting them out and will try the dust removal
reference photo feature in NX2. The specs usually don't bother me as
much when shooting wider, but there are always two that seem to fall
on someone's face. Ask Nikon to fix this.
Click to expand...
ridiculous when you work out how much we pay for these things - I'm wondering if my old 28-105 had them too but the rear element was too small to be able to see them, whereas the 2.8g rear element is massive. Will try your f16 trick and see what I can see - although I've taken blue skies at f22 and can't see a thing.........D3 is still very new - no dust bunnies yet!
 
LeungPhotos said:
I'd agree, I wouldn't mind trying one super fast lens.

Have you seen the world's fastest lens? f/0.95!!

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0809/08091505leica_50mm_f0_95.asp

Technology is definitely there... but I have a feeling a 50mm 1.0
would be priced at $5,000+.

--



http://leungphotography.smugmug.com
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That leica lens is the coolest. I would buy it in a heartbeat if it had AFS and bolted straight onto my D3!!! hahaha! Seriously though, a beautiful piece of equipment but one which needs to have all the features of a Nikkor before I'll be handing over my hard earned.
 
I would prefer a 1.4 that is already on fire from 1.4-2.0, to a 1.2 that is just okay from 1.2-1.8. I also prefer the size, weight, and price of slightly slower lenses. For anything other than a 50, ƒ2 is enough for me (but 2.8 is too slow). I also shoot enough at ƒ8-13 that I would prefer a balanced lens that is still very good stopped down over a lens that is great wide open but falls apart stopped down.

But I agree that just because ISO 6400 is available, doesn't mean one should use it and accept slow lenses. And I would probably buy a new 50/1.2 as long as it had a consistent, balanced performance and wasn't the size of a cement mixer. It would be a knockout for astrophotography.
 
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