Challenge #11

Jim B (MSP) · Jun 13, 2002

Indigo997, winner of challenge #10 has posted the topic for the new challenge - color

Indigo wrote :
Thanks to everyone for voting for my picture!

OK, guys. Here's the idea for the next challenge: COLOR!

I've noticed that I'm drawn to pictures with strong colors. I thought it was funny that Mike thought the kitten was too saturated in my entry because I really like deep, saturated colors. (The color did stand out next to the black and white, but I didn't alter the color at all. I just masked out the rest of the picture's color).

This is a very general subject so everyone can be creative and have fun. Still lifes of all one color or outdoor shots of contrasting color... Whatever you want as long as someone will look at it and say, "Wow, look at that color!"

)

It's a great time of year to find color outdoors, but lets try NOT to have a gallery full of flowers. Also, don't just take a shot and change the colors in PS. Buy some lemons and limes, find a row of taxis, or there's always the standby sunset.

We'll get the gallery and guidelines up asap, but I thought you might want to know what the topic is now rather than later.

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Assume the challenge starts on Friday, June 14. Paige and/or I will get the guidelines up and published ASAP, along with the new site. We may a day or so getting it up, but don't let that stop everybody from taking pictures.
--
Jim

indigo997 · Jun 13, 2002

Here are the regular guidelines with a few new ones from our wonderful uploaders so please read carefully:

Challenge 11 Topic: Color

This challenge will run from 4:00 p.m. GMT (noon EDT) June 15th and ends June 28th, 11:59 p.m. GMT (7:59 p.m. EDT). Voting begins: June 29th, 2002 12:01 a.m. GMT (June 28th, 8:01 p.m. EDT)!

The gallery will be at http://www.pbase.com/ctfchallenge/challenge11 soon.

Eligible Gallery is for images taken with a Canon digital camera during the Challenge period.

Exhibition Gallery is for images taken with any camera at any time (ransack your existing galleries).

You may post a maximum of 3 photos in each gallery.

To upload your entries, please email to all four** of the people below in one email:

[email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]

(These are Jim B, Emese, G, Paige, and JG Russell - consolidated so that you can cut and paste into your email)

Please send your pics to all** of these addresses AT THE SAME TIME in ONE email; this helps spread the work load out for these folks.

Please pay attention to the deadline and allow 24 hours for uploading. If you do not allow 24 hours, there is no guarantee that your entry will be included in the voting.

---------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------
This part is important!

So that the gallery can be viewed by everyone, pictures should be resized BEFORE submittal. MAXIMUM file size is 150kb and 800x600 pixels (I usually make my longest side 650 and it seems to work just fine).

For each picture, Please include:

Your Name
Picture Title
Camera Used
Description/Comments (optional)
Post Processing Details
Date of Picture (required for Eligible Gallery only)

Pictures missing any of the required info will not be eligible.

Please do not send off-topic entries. If there may be a question as to whether or not your entry fits the topic, then please include an explanation with the picture. The moderator and uploaders have the final decision on whether or not to upload a picture for consideration.

We have a very liberal rule about post processing. Basically, anything goes. It will be up to the voters to decide how much is too much.

On this particular challenge, I suggested that you don't just take any old picture and alter the coloring in PS to make it fit the category. This does not mean that you can't tweak saturation or even use a layer to multiply. It does mean that you probably shouldn't take a picture of a zebra and paint it orange. The challenge is to PHOTOGRAPH color, and I believe that the voting will reflect that.

Thanks again to our dedicated volunteers for keeping this challenge up and running!

indigo997 · Jun 13, 2002

I think that the galleries are up now. I wasn't exactly sure what I was doing so if anyone finds a problem then please let me know. Now get out there and take some pictures!

Paige87621 · Jun 13, 2002

indigo997 said:
To upload your entries, please email to all four** of the people
below in one email:

[email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
[email protected]

(These are Jim B, Emese, G, Paige, and JG Russell - consolidated so
that you can cut and paste into your email)

PLEASE EXCLUDE JG RUSSELL! She was moderator for Challenge 10, but will not be uploading for challenge #10. Sorry for any confusion I caused with this.

--
Paige
http://www.pbase.com/pashan/random

Necessity is the mother of invention, desperation is the father.

AussieAndrew · Jun 13, 2002

Jim B (MSP) said:
OK, guys. Here's the idea for the next challenge: COLOR!

It's a great time of year to find color outdoors, but lets try NOT
to have a gallery full of flowers.

Could one of you please post a picture of sunlight hitting a grey card so that those of us in the southern hemisphere can use it to color cast our drab grey outdoor winter photos in photoshop?

{
{. . . . . . {9}
{---------- {. . .
{

me with a beanie on my head, standing under an umbrella
hoping my g2 is not getting wet while waiting for
a colorful idea to pop into my head

what else can I say but

viva la challenge! *

cheers,
AussieAndrew

PS: ASCII art in dpreview is difficult when only 1 space is allowed!

--
G2 photos - http://www.pbase.com/aussieandrew/galleries

mike savad · Jun 13, 2002

indigo997 said:
Here are the regular guidelines with a few new ones from our
wonderful uploaders so please read carefully:

Challenge 11 Topic: Color

This challenge will run from 4:00 p.m. GMT (noon EDT) June 15th and
ends June 28th, 11:59 p.m. GMT (7:59 p.m. EDT). Voting begins: June
29th, 2002 12:01 a.m. GMT (June 28th, 8:01 p.m. EDT)!

The gallery will be at
http://www.pbase.com/ctfchallenge/challenge11 soon.

Eligible Gallery is for images taken with a Canon digital camera
during the Challenge period.

Exhibition Gallery is for images taken with any camera at any time
(ransack your existing galleries).

You may post a maximum of 3 photos in each gallery.

To upload your entries, please email to all four** of the people
below in one email:

[email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
[email protected]

(These are Jim B, Emese, G, Paige, and JG Russell - consolidated so
that you can cut and paste into your email)

Please send your pics to all** of these addresses AT THE SAME
TIME in ONE email; this helps spread the work load out for these
folks.

Please pay attention to the deadline and allow 24 hours for
uploading. If you do not allow 24 hours, there is no guarantee that
your entry will be included in the voting.
----------------------------------------
----------------------------------------
This part is important!

So that the gallery can be viewed by everyone, pictures should be
resized BEFORE submittal. MAXIMUM file size is 150kb and 800x600
pixels (I usually make my longest side 650 and it seems to work
just fine).

For each picture, Please include:

Your Name
Picture Title
Camera Used
Description/Comments (optional)
Post Processing Details
Date of Picture (required for Eligible Gallery only)

Pictures missing any of the required info will not be eligible.

Please do not send off-topic entries. If there may be a question
as to whether or not your entry fits the topic, then please include
an explanation with the picture. The moderator and uploaders have
the final decision on whether or not to upload a picture for
consideration.

We have a very liberal rule about post processing. Basically,
anything goes. It will be up to the voters to decide how much is
too much.

On this particular challenge, I suggested that you don't just take
any old picture and alter the coloring in PS to make it fit the
category. This does not mean that you can't tweak saturation or
even use a layer to multiply. It does mean that you probably
shouldn't take a picture of a zebra and paint it orange. The
challenge is to PHOTOGRAPH color, and I believe that the voting
will reflect that.

Thanks again to our dedicated volunteers for keeping this challenge
up and running!

150k maybe too small, jpeg loss may occur - and especially hard when there are alot of colors in it. just a thought.

---Mike Savad

--
http://www.pbase.com/savad/

http://www.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=9050

Jim B (MSP) · Jun 13, 2002

mike savad said:
150k maybe too small, jpeg loss may occur - and especially hard
when there are alot of colors in it. just a thought.

---Mike Savad

The guidelines are in place primarily for those with 56k modems. We can upload something larger, but it will require more time for others with slower connections to view it. However, unlike dpchallenge, we won't hold precisely to the 150k size - but keep it close. Last time we got a lot of submissions at > 2M in size. We really don't have time to resize pictures.

--
Jim

AussieAndrew · Jun 13, 2002

Jim B (MSP) said:
mike savad said:

150k maybe too small, jpeg loss may occur - and especially hard
when there are alot of colors in it. just a thought.

---Mike Savad

Click to expand...

The guidelines are in place primarily for those with 56k modems. We
can upload something larger, but it will require more time for
others with slower connections to view it. However, unlike
dpchallenge, we won't hold precisely to the 150k size - but keep it
close. Last time we got a lot of submissions at > 2M in size. We
really don't have time to resize pictures.

well, it's obvious that the photographer(s) took photo(s) somewhere near the camera's full capability, or they have a lot of color details in the images.

Hang on, doesn't pbase do the resize automatically? pity the challenge web site was tampered with and the general access removed so that individual photographers can no longer upload the file(s) themselves.

Could we find another way so that the uploaders don't need to receive an email containing a photo, but rather transfer a file from a holding pen onto pbase?

I have some minor concerns about limiting files to 800x600 and 150Kb, but I guess if we have general compliance, then it is a level playing field.

Next idea - the number of colors allowed could be limited to 256. (OK, getting a little bit silly now, I know)

AUS$0.04 worth ~~= US$0.02~~

cheers,
AussieAndrew

--
G2 photos - http://www.pbase.com/aussieandrew/galleries

Paige87621 · Jun 13, 2002

AussieAndy - you've got too much time on your hands

Go take some pictures!!!

Paige

AussieAndrew said:
Could one of you please post a picture of sunlight hitting a grey
card so that those of us in the southern hemisphere can use it to
color cast our drab grey outdoor winter photos in photoshop?

{
{. . . . . . {9}
{---------- {. . .
{

me with a beanie on my head, standing under an umbrella
hoping my g2 is not getting wet while waiting for
a colorful idea to pop into my head

what else can I say but

viva la challenge! *

cheers,
AussieAndrew

PS: ASCII art in dpreview is difficult when only 1 space is allowed!

--
G2 photos - http://www.pbase.com/aussieandrew/galleries

--
Paige
http://www.pbase.com/pashan/random

Necessity is the mother of invention, desperation is the father.

Patchmaster · Jun 14, 2002

AussieAndrew said:
Next idea - the number of colors allowed could be limited to 256.
(OK, getting a little bit silly now, I know)

I'm with you on this one. Perhaps it's my aging eyes, but I find anything less than 1280x1024 to be not worth the trouble. 800x600 is half the resolution at which I normally shoot, meaning half the information, half the life of the original image will be gone.

If this is a matter of the intermediate processors having slow modems, I'd be happy to volunteer for duty. I've got a fast cable modem connection and I'm not afraid to use it. If the problem is people viewing the pics, I thought that was what the various sizes were for.

indigo997 · Jun 14, 2002

Oops. Sorry 'bout that. Sort of like me looking for shadows to photograph on a cloudy, rainy day.

)

The field is wide open though so you can just set up something in your house. Guess it depends on what you need practice with - studio shots or outdoor.

As far as the size thing goes. I'm one of the poor modem sufferers, and I do just use the small sizes to view the pics. The restriction is mainly to help the uploaders. I thought that particular pixel size was chosen because it's near the same size that pbase uses for "large". I, for one, never look at the original.

Paige87621 · Jun 14, 2002

Jim B (MSP) said:
Indigo997, winner of challenge #10 has posted the topic for the new
challenge - color

Indigo wrote :
Thanks to everyone for voting for my picture!

OK, guys. Here's the idea for the next challenge: COLOR!

I've noticed that I'm drawn to pictures with strong colors. I
thought it was funny that Mike thought the kitten was too saturated
in my entry because I really like deep, saturated colors. (The
color did stand out next to the black and white, but I didn't alter
the color at all. I just masked out the rest of the picture's
color).

This is a very general subject so everyone can be creative and have
fun. Still lifes of all one color or outdoor shots of contrasting
color... Whatever you want as long as someone will look at it and
say, "Wow, look at that color!" )

It's a great time of year to find color outdoors, but lets try NOT
to have a gallery full of flowers. Also, don't just take a shot and
change the colors in PS. Buy some lemons and limes, find a row of
taxis, or there's always the standby sunset.

We'll get the gallery and guidelines up asap, but I thought you
might want to know what the topic is now rather than later.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Assume the challenge starts on Friday, June 14. Paige and/or I will
get the guidelines up and published ASAP, along with the new site.
We may a day or so getting it up, but don't let that stop everybody
from taking pictures.
--
Jim

--
Paige
http://www.pbase.com/pashan/random

Necessity is the mother of invention, desperation is the father.

Thomas Dignam · Jun 14, 2002

I need some help. Id like to enter the challenge.
Please give me a heads up as to how to format
the accompaning information about the pict.
Can I do it in Image Browser or the Camera.
Photoshop. Just point in the right direction
and I'll figure it out my self.
Regards,
tom dignam

Jim B (MSP) said:
Indigo997, winner of challenge #10 has posted the topic for the new
challenge - color

Indigo wrote :
Thanks to everyone for voting for my picture!

OK, guys. Here's the idea for the next challenge: COLOR!

I've noticed that I'm drawn to pictures with strong colors. I
thought it was funny that Mike thought the kitten was too saturated
in my entry because I really like deep, saturated colors. (The
color did stand out next to the black and white, but I didn't alter
the color at all. I just masked out the rest of the picture's
color).

This is a very general subject so everyone can be creative and have
fun. Still lifes of all one color or outdoor shots of contrasting
color... Whatever you want as long as someone will look at it and
say, "Wow, look at that color!" )

It's a great time of year to find color outdoors, but lets try NOT
to have a gallery full of flowers. Also, don't just take a shot and
change the colors in PS. Buy some lemons and limes, find a row of
taxis, or there's always the standby sunset.

We'll get the gallery and guidelines up asap, but I thought you
might want to know what the topic is now rather than later.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Assume the challenge starts on Friday, June 14. Paige and/or I will
get the guidelines up and published ASAP, along with the new site.
We may a day or so getting it up, but don't let that stop everybody
from taking pictures.
--
Jim

Jim B (MSP) · Jun 14, 2002

Thomas Dignam said:
I need some help. Id like to enter the challenge.
Please give me a heads up as to how to format
the accompaning information about the pict.
Can I do it in Image Browser or the Camera.
Photoshop. Just point in the right direction
and I'll figure it out my self.
Regards,
tom dignam

You should be able to resize the photo easily in photo shop, and saved as a jpeg. Then just send it to those of us who will post it. In the email, put the other info: name of artist, camera, date, title, comments, technical details. If you have any other specific questions, just send me an email and we will get them straightened out.

Jim

indigo997 · Jun 14, 2002

WOW! There are some great shots in the exhibition gallery already. I hope you're all working on some comparable entries for the eligible gallery. I just love color.

)

Paige87621 · Jun 14, 2002

Yes, there are some really awesome shots there! I like this challenge - it's open for a broad range of dynamic interpretation. I am looking forward to Monday when everyone sends in their weekend work - I have a feeling we're gonna have some outstanding shots! It's gonna be hard to try and pick just three!

Paige

indigo997 said:
WOW! There are some great shots in the exhibition gallery already.
I hope you're all working on some comparable entries for the
eligible gallery. I just love color. )

--
Paige
http://www.pbase.com/pashan/random

Necessity is the mother of invention, desperation is the father.

mike savad · Jun 15, 2002

Jim B (MSP) said:
mike savad said:

150k maybe too small, jpeg loss may occur - and especially hard
when there are alot of colors in it. just a thought.

---Mike Savad

Click to expand...

The guidelines are in place primarily for those with 56k modems. We
can upload something larger, but it will require more time for
others with slower connections to view it. However, unlike
dpchallenge, we won't hold precisely to the 150k size - but keep it
close. Last time we got a lot of submissions at > 2M in size. We
really don't have time to resize pictures.

--
Jim

i do agree we shouldn't have full size straight from the camera sizes. it isn't needed and it just looks more blurry when viewed. but 150k is very small. photosig uses the 360k, which is also small but usuable. with the max size of 640,000 total horiz and vert edges multiplied.

i can see why modem people wouldn't like it, but 150k, you actually defeat the purpose of the challenge - because at that level, you actually reduce the color quality.

---Mike Savad

--
http://www.pbase.com/savad/

http://www.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=9050

Jim B (MSP) · Jun 15, 2002

indigo997 said:
WOW! There are some great shots in the exhibition gallery already.
I hope you're all working on some comparable entries for the
eligible gallery. I just love color. )

I agree - WOW !!

This is why I love this challenge. My challenge now is to equal or better some of those great shots posted already in the exhibition gallery. Don't know if I can, but I will sure have fun trying.
--
Jim

Jim B (MSP) · Jun 17, 2002

Jim B (MSP) said:
indigo997 said:

WOW! There are some great shots in the exhibition gallery already.
I hope you're all working on some comparable entries for the
eligible gallery. I just love color. )

Click to expand...

I agree - WOW !!
This is why I love this challenge. My challenge now is to equal or
better some of those great shots posted already in the exhibition
gallery. Don't know if I can, but I will sure have fun trying.
--
Jim

--
Jim

Jim B (MSP) · Jun 17, 2002

Jim B (MSP) said:
Jim B (MSP) said:

indigo997 said:

WOW! There are some great shots in the exhibition gallery already.
I hope you're all working on some comparable entries for the
eligible gallery. I just love color. )

Click to expand...

Click to expand...

Jim

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