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My gut feeling from your description and looking at Ben's photos is that it wasn't just a submirror issue. It may be some sensors are misaligned. I can't remember if it was here or on FM that someone finally got their focus issue resolved by Canon recognzing it was a sensor alignment issue.
 
But here I am back again checking in to see what if anythnig has changed. I feel for those who have a broken camera, but, if it's not working, it's broken, and keep sending it back. My experience is the one I bought in July 2007 was suspect so I got rid of it, returned it to Amaozn. But the one I bought in November 2007, a blue dot, is perfect.
 
Ben is in said:
I am a photojournalist who has been shooting with the 1DIII since
June of last year. I used a 1D for two years prior to that. Cutting
edge feature set? Surely you jest. Settings in the 1D and 1DIII are
nearly identical.
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I'm sorry but I can't get past this remark. IMO, the feature set of the 1DM3 is very much differnet from the original 4.1MP 1D, in addition to the focusing system being a completely different animal.
 
sirvine said:
I have better luck with slow tracking, but I notice that if it locks
the background, it stays locked far, far too long.
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Since I'm shooting from the baseline, I can almost always tell when it's locked on the background -- all the players near the basket will be blurry in the viewfinder. Then I know to immediately release the AF and try again. That's why I only activate the AF when I'm very sure that my subject is under the focus point and I never have the AF active when I'm switching subjects.

The real problem with my camera seems to be that it just won't track. Setting the tracking sensitivity to fast seems to be making it reacquire my target repeatedly instead of tracking it. With the tracking sensitivity on standard or slow, the focus will flail all over the place when tracking a subject as simple as a player walking down the court. It will love to lock onto lines on the court in this mode. I have taken several series of completely out of focus shots of a player crossing the center line followed by a couple of sharp shots of the center line behind the player. My Mark IIn never does stupid things like this.
 
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I haven't seen too many blocked punts with the ball making contact with the defensive player.

Very nice.

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Praying for Pro level 8mp FF and 10mp 1.6X Canon. Delusion that Canon and Oly will make a 200-400 f4:)
 
i think that all the threads boil down to "agreeing to disagree"...

but my question is this...

i have an early s/n 1D3 which I have sent back to Canon and they have elected to fix the problem (this camera has definitely got problems - even in single shot and has been confirmed)...

the will not make a decision on what offer they can make until the assess whether the camera can be fixed to THEIR SATISFACTION...

I have discussed with the retailer about upgrading to a 1Ds3 which they are more than happy to help with...

Should I inform canon that there are too many variables and unpredictabilities with a fix (some work and some don't) and either give me a new blue dot (which seems to be a better bet) or tell them that i want the 1Ds3 no questions ask...

I have a bad feeling about letting them decide whether the camera is fixed satisfactorily or not as it could not only pave a longer road ahead but also compromise any resale opportunities in the future if I stick with my original camera...

any thoughts???
 
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Ricksky2004 said:
Yeah,
Nikon D3 also has a focus issue not that it misfocus but in low light
condition it simply wont.
I tried one of my co-workers D3 + the new 24-70 f2.8 at a film
premiere. Basically doing snapshots with a SB-800 on camera. I had
the focussing beam turned on and I used the center focussing point.
Many.....many...many.....times the camera would simply not fire
because the focus was not locked or it would take so long than I was
loosing attention of my subject.

Got back to my friends and gave that feedback........they all told me
they encountered this also and they been told to set custom function
to shutter priority to compensate. It makes it a bit faster but less
reliable and still in low light and with or without the flash
focussing beam it is slow.

Other than that Nikon D3 is a kick ass camera........as well as 1D
MKIII...

Nothing is perfect.

Coca-cola or Pepsi..............it's a matter of taste
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I personally prefer Coke, but more often than not Pepsi is on sale and Coke isn't. since I have camera gear to pay off, I buy the Pepsi ! ;-)
Ricksky2004 said:
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Ricksky2004!
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Frakles said:
If I hear another Mark 3 issue I am going to bury my head, yes it had
problems yes there is always a camera that is shipped that is
defective, Yes all cameras have problems and none of them are shipped
100% all perfect.
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Sorry, but for a professional camera at this price level, that's a horrible statement.
Frakles said:
I don't care what RG says I think its the best
Canon camera on the market today in its MP range, Mine has not been
fixed
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So you agree with RG that the camera has/had problems, but you don't care? You paid for a professional camera that had obvious focusing issues, and you don't care? Really?
Frakles said:
as i wanted to wait until all the hype has died down which it
has according to canon , now I can send mine in get an extra year
warranty (canon assured me the big rush is over so quick turn around
time) giving me close to two years being a very happy user. There is
very little about this camera not to be happy about I think folks
that are still unhappy should get rid of it
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And doesn't Nikon love that statement!!!
Frakles said:
and so be it said, Lets
enjoy this technological advanced camera and move on, I am really
spoiled owning a Mark3 even with a few blurry shots thrown in, Lets
make money and have fun moving on. CC
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I bet you'll make some great money on those blurry shots.

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I will be very angry, if I bought a camera that can't even auto focus, if I'm a camera collector, then I wouldn't mind
 
You are right I moved on and got rid of both of my dysfunctional (with fixes) Mark III cameras. Best move I ever made--good riddance to bad rubbish. Now enjoying the true king of cameras 1Ds Mark III with not a hint of single or servo autofocus problems. Also is excellent in heat, bright light, and with long fast telephotos. I got more keepers out of this camera in 2 weeks than I got out of the 1D Mark III cameras in 10 months. The only people that have their heads in the sand is Canon. They need to come out with the 1D Mark IIIn to rid themselves of the stank of the 1D Mark III......
 
These are exactly my thoughts. I bought and received new MKIII last Thursday. Saturday morning I woke to Err99 in "S" mode. It is repeatable and once it happens it creeps into the other shooting modes. Serial #550xxx. Called Canon they immediately requested that I pull all of the communication devices off and both batteries wait awhile and try again. It didn't work but I can still use the camera. Called the camera reseller they sent me a new one and I received it today. Pulled it out of the box and immediately got err99 when shooting in "S" mode. Then it happens frequently in every mode. I pulled the batteries out just like before and shot 70 frames in "L" and "H" mode with no problems. I am afraid of "S" mode. After my shoot on Saturday I will try "S" mode again. BTW new camera serial number is 7 higher then first one. I know they aren't manufactured in serial number sequential order but...

This is still an awesome camera and I want one that works! I guess, I have to send it to Canon to fix it instead of asking for a third body.

Has anyone else had a similar experience?

I have read much on this forum and was duly warned about the problems, but I felt so many negative comments from "unconfirmed owners" must be unjustly skewed. I am a canon loyalist going way back, I owned a Minolta once in '80 or '81, an XG3 to be exact. Ever since then I have been a canon owner.

I am sure that operator error is the cause of all of my OOF shots that I have taken with this camera. I am not complaining about them, nor have I mentioned them. Both camera boxes have blue dots on them and after reading the Canon white papers about the focus and shooting styles I am certain that I have much practice to do before I can predict how the camera will focus.

I am not so sure that operator error is the result of the Err99 from both cameras however, especially with the factory defaults still in the 2nd body. Pressing and holding the shutter button shouldn't cause an error.

If any of you have suggestions or criticisms please let me know.

I am not considering a switch to any other manufacturer. I thought about buying the 5D, but after taking pictures of my girl friend's son playing basketball and having half of the shots OOF with my 20D. I couldn't bring myself to buying the XL version, especially since it has been on the market for so long.

I really do like the images from the Mark III and I am sad that two out of two generate errors. I can still shoot with them I just have to go slow.

Jeff
 
did you
  • TRY A DIFFERENT LENS
  • then try a different memory card
2 bodies points to something such as the above.
Jeff5509 said:
These are exactly my thoughts. I bought and received new MKIII last
Thursday. Saturday morning I woke to Err99 in "S" mode. It is
repeatable and once it happens it creeps into the other shooting
modes. Serial #550xxx. Called Canon they immediately requested that
I pull all of the communication devices off and both batteries wait
awhile and try again. It didn't work but I can still use the camera.
Called the camera reseller they sent me a new one and I received it
today. Pulled it out of the box and immediately got err99 when
shooting in "S" mode. Then it happens frequently in every mode. I
pulled the batteries out just like before and shot 70 frames in "L"
and "H" mode with no problems. I am afraid of "S" mode. After my
shoot on Saturday I will try "S" mode again. BTW new camera serial
number is 7 higher then first one. I know they aren't manufactured
in serial number sequential order but...

This is still an awesome camera and I want one that works! I guess,
I have to send it to Canon to fix it instead of asking for a third
body.

Has anyone else had a similar experience?

I have read much on this forum and was duly warned about the
problems, but I felt so many negative comments from "unconfirmed
owners" must be unjustly skewed. I am a canon loyalist going way
back, I owned a Minolta once in '80 or '81, an XG3 to be exact. Ever
since then I have been a canon owner.

I am sure that operator error is the cause of all of my OOF shots
that I have taken with this camera. I am not complaining about them,
nor have I mentioned them. Both camera boxes have blue dots on them
and after reading the Canon white papers about the focus and shooting
styles I am certain that I have much practice to do before I can
predict how the camera will focus.

I am not so sure that operator error is the result of the Err99 from
both cameras however, especially with the factory defaults still in
the 2nd body. Pressing and holding the shutter button shouldn't
cause an error.

If any of you have suggestions or criticisms please let me know.

I am not considering a switch to any other manufacturer. I thought
about buying the 5D, but after taking pictures of my girl friend's
son playing basketball and having half of the shots OOF with my 20D.
I couldn't bring myself to buying the XL version, especially since it
has been on the market for so long.

I really do like the images from the Mark III and I am sad that two
out of two generate errors. I can still shoot with them I just have
to go slow.

Jeff
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Ben is in said:










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Thanks for looking
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I know this may sound silly, but do you expect to freeze action whatever settings you are in when using AI Servo?

It would have been nice if we could have seen the full exif data for the above shots.

P, M, Av, Tv
One Shot, AI Focus, AI Servo
Single Shot, Burst
ISO:
Tv:
Av

The reason I ask, is because I tested a 1D MKIII out yesterday and had similar results to those seen above.

I put is down to me being on the wrong settings for moving action.

I am holding back from buying one until I am confident that it was me and not the camera at fault.

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Charlie, there is no AI Focus on the 1 series. That is a total cludge removed.

If he wasn't shooting AI Servo this board shoud be shut down ;-)

Yes AI-Servo will track, lock and focus this over and over and over (well it should and does on most 1DmkIIIs and all IIs.)

You'd need to test in AI Servo mode unless the subject was still and you needed to Manually Focus override
Charlie Bettell said:
I know this may sound silly, but do you expect to freeze action
whatever settings you are in when using AI Servo?

It would have been nice if we could have seen the full exif data for
the above shots.

P, M, Av, Tv
One Shot, AI Focus, AI Servo
Single Shot, Burst
ISO:
Tv:
Av
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Not bad Mark, the D3 is performing up to expectations and the 5D still amazes. Been shooting concerts, athletic stadiums (applying for use as a national team training camp for 2012 olympics), footballers, and more - making a bit. Looking forward to Canon 3D...
Take care
Tony
 
I said, read my lips, "all cameras..." in the knowledgethat some do have problems - that does not mean 'all' as the poster describes..
tony
 
There are problems and there are PROBLEMS... for example, a hardware fix I call a PROBLEM... most firmware updates are not critical
Tony
 
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