Whats Important to You?

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When I shot film - I preferred medium format for quality/comvenience & 35mm rangefinder for convenience/quality.

Digital still has a ways to go . . . . to get back . . . . to where we once were . . . .

Best.
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imo
(c) fastglass
 
In my type of photography I never know the conditions under which my next shot will be made. Sunny, indoors, low light, still, moving, plenty of time to take the shot, no time to take the shot, etc....

My camera (D200) has many menu items. It would be unreasonable to consider menu changes for each setting. Fortunately it has four banks of menu settings. The menu options are the same in each bank, but you can set each bank as if it was a different camera. I have set each bank for a specific situation. This saves a lot of time and frustration.

I could use an additional 2 to 4 banks. I think this is a feature which has been ignored or at least not appreciated.

I would like to see Auto ISO allow a minimum shutter speed of 500. Currently it is 250. I was involved in a thread months ago when learning how to use Auto ISO and I made the statement that a minimum shutter speed of 500 was not necessary. I was wrong. Please note it was not the first time I have been wrong.

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FINE PRINT: I reserve the right to be wrong. Should you prove me wrong, I reserve the right to change my mind.
 
interesting.... would be useful for sports photography.
 
well I definitely aim for a good,sharp well saturated image quality but often it's the substance of the image that tells the story
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Berghof G.C.
 
1. Picture content.
2. Exposure.
3. Corner-to-corner sharpness.
4. Absolutely minimal shutter lag.

Everything else is secondary to me.

Robert
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My state of confusion has turned into a circle of confusion.
 
There are a dozen things that make up image quality....but IQ is
important.
More like 3 dozen things "that make up image quality" in the end
when you actually print your photos!

Not many do it seems.
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Actually being there and actually getting the photo . . .

That is what is important to me.

Which camera, sensor size, lens, filter . . . that is all secondary!

Of course, that is the way that a real photojournalist thinks . . .

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J. D.
Colorful Colorado



Remember . . . always keep your receipt, the box, and everything that came in it!
 
More like 3 dozen things "that make up image quality" in the end
when you actually print your photos!

Not many do it seems.
I always found the viewing experience of projected slides to be far better than prints when using film, and I find digital slide shows on my computer monitor more enjoyable than looking at prints when shooting digital. Mailing a disc of images, or electronically mailing some images, has become the most common way our geographically spread-out family shares pictures. I used to do some printing for the church scrapbook, and using pictures has been a good intervention for building a reading vocabulary when working with children having Down syndrome, but I've little use for printing when it comes to personal enjoyment of my pictures.
 
IMAGE QUALITY !!!

2nd: A good 3x zoom. I don't need a super zoom

3rd: Can be many things, but easy to produce. Standardize memory cards (SD) please. Good user interface with important stuff not lost down in some menu.

This is primarily for point and shoot camers. My SLR is pretty good as it is. Manufacturers: Please give me a qulity point and shoot tha will complement my SLR. Stop with the tiny overstuffed sensors PLEASE!
 
To get the most for I can afford and my money can buy (as the question has answered itslef)
cheers
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Some reasons, in no particular order of importance:
  • It's very small and fits into my coat pockets easily (or my trouser pocket if I take the viewfinder off).
  • It's very lightweight, so it's easy to carry around in my hand all day.
  • In manual focus mode it responds more or less instantly (and due to the small sensor, at f/4 pretty much everything is in focus).
  • The wide lens encourages me to get close to things. This creates more intimate perspective that I find appealing.
  • It shoots raw fast enough not to slow me down.
  • The GV-2 viewfinder allows me to "connect" with the scene in front of me much better than a DSLR finder. It's bigger, brighter and clearer, and more "transparent". It also means I can shoot with the camera powered up but with the LCD off, so battery life is extended considerably.
You'll notice I didn't mention image quality. That's because IT'S NOT THAT IMPORTANT. Pretty much any camera these days will take a decent photo if used properly, so there's little sense making that your main criterion for choosing one.

Also note that although I listed good raw shooting as a factor, it's not because of any stupid minor technical pixel-level reasons, it's because shooting raw allows me to produce images that look how I want in terms of tonality and colour, and overall look.

It's kinda sad how so many people are obsessed with the technical quality of an image yet completely ignore the artistic and emotional content.

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Andy Farrell
http://www.caerphoto.com/
http://flickr.com/photos/caerphoto/
 
More like 3 dozen things "that make up image quality" in the end
when you actually print your photos!

Not many do it seems.
I always found the viewing experience of projected slides to be far
better than prints when using film, and I find digital slide shows on
my computer monitor more enjoyable than looking at prints when
shooting digital.
Wow.

You actually said that looking at images on a computer monitor or
TV screen is better than seeing them properly printed and in your own
hand.

I give up.

:-(
 
I always found the viewing experience of projected slides to be far
better than prints when using film.....
I totally agree with this, and would go even further and suggest that even today, using the currently available display technology, 35mm slide projection far exceeds the quality of digital image displays, whether on an LCD display, or whether printed.
..... I find digital slide shows on my computer monitor more enjoyable than looking at prints when shooting digital.....
Once again, I agree too with this. Unless one is lucky enough to own an absolute top-of-the-range SOHO printer that can produce at least an A4 colour print — and at an ACCEPTABLE price — then a properly calibrated, good quality monitor is certainly a more enjoyable method of viewing digital images, particularly for a small group of people.

What may be lacking in the absolute image resolution of an LCD monitor is more than made up for by the overall 'dynamics' (not DR) of the screen image when compared to a print — which may often be a mediocre 6" x 4" from a budget inkjet printer. Bearing in mind too that we should be 'enjoying' looking at our images, and not pixel peeping.

Cheers :)
 
Wow.

You actually said that looking at images on a computer monitor or
TV screen is better than seeing them properly printed and in your own
hand.

I give up.
I hadn't tried to analyze what made projected slides and even monitor viewing better for me than prints; they always just seemed more lifelike to me. Size is one issue, of course. Projected slides are huge compared to any print I'll ever make or have made, and even the approximate 10 1/4 X 13 3/4 inch viewing area of my computer monitor is larger than I would ever print regularly.

In searching for a way to describe the quality of the viewing experience, I came across the parameters of dynamic range (or luminance ratio or contrast, terms varying by article and author, but referring to the same idea--the difference between brightest and darkest parts of an image), color gamut and color accuracy. With respect to dynamic range, one author wrote, "One clear conclusion from this chart is that the experience of seeing the original scene, then capturing it, to reproducing it for others to see, is one of progressively losing DR." The chart referred to shows our eyes being capable of a 10,000:1 ratio; a digital camera about 400:1; computer monitors ranging from 500:1 to 1000:1; and prints ranging from 100:1 to 250:1 (film was up around 2000:1). One conclusion is that a computer monitor can display more of the captured dynamic range than a print can.

Another aspect was differences in color gamut and accuracy between the RGB color space of the monitor and the CMYK world of prints. One author said that because of the way our eyes see, the real world is RGB, and that RGB devices are more capable of reproducing color fairly accurately. Also, because CMYK has a different and more limited color gamut than RGB, the conversion to print always results in some inaccuracies of color rendition. Another author put it this way, "The net effect of these different color spaces is a mismatch between the color that can be represented in RGB but not CMYK. Many of the brilliant colors that are displayed on a monitor are not reproducible using printer’s inks." As an aside, slide film has an even broader color gamut than computer monitors.

Cost and convenience are other factors. Slide film and processing was less costly than than having prints made, and storage less bulky than photo albums. Monitor viewing of digital images is even easier, with files on the hard drive and some back-up disks, and cheaper as there are virtually no running costs (no film, processing, or printing expenses).

The bottom line for me is still what I started with--projected slides and monitor viewing are more lifelike for me than prints, a closer representation of what I actually saw. In this post I've tried to find some reasons for this. That doesn't mean you or anyone else has to agree, but I'm surprised by your dismissive attitude ("I give up"). So what is it you find so satisfying in prints? You mentioned being able to have them in hand. Is it the tactile pleasure of holding the image that makes it compelling for you?

http://www.naturescapes.net/072006/rh0706_2.htm
http://jura.wi.mit.edu/bio/graphics/photoshop/colman.htm
http://www.biophysj.org/cgi/reprint/88/2/761.pdf
http://www.techcolor.com/help/rgb.html
 
Interesting point about luminance ratio (and/or dynamic range, contrast, etc). In radiology, we would never dream of trying to interpret a film from a print (the only exception being the very outdated Xeromammograms, and even then, they weren't widely used). The luminance ratio is so much greater using a lightbox. Essentially, a radiograph is simply a slide/transparency (large format negative). One related point: while a projected radiographic image still looks good (and looks far better than the occasional print sometimes used in ultrasound), the film on the lightbox looks much better.

As an aside, with the current digital radiography, lightboxes will soon be obsolete as all images are viewed on monitors. I believe that most of us that use them consider it a clear improvement. This, despite the fact that resolution is actually worse when comparing commonly used monitors to radiographic film (like comparing viewing photos on a monitor to prints). Our current monitors are approximately 3k pixels along one axis (I assume it is width--and there are a few 5k ones floating around). Compare this to film, where a 14x17 inch (analog) chest x-ray can have up to 14 line-pairs/mm (14in * 25mm/in * 14lp/mm * 2/pair = 9.8k).

The point of all this rambling is that I can understand why viewing images on a monitor or projecting slides does have a few things going for them. I realize this is far from the OP intent.
 
For me it is the size of the camera. I'm not a professional photographer, but I take and use a lot of photos. I have found that the size of the camera is directly related to how likely I am to carry it.

Big camera with lots of attachments is only used for dedicated photography purposes. Small "consumer" camera travels with me anytime I might see something interesting. Tiny, integrated-into-phone goes everywhere I go.

The last one is just too small to be useful as a camera. Phones don't have focus, zoom, flash, or enough pixels. My ideal camera would be pocket-sized, have a 10x+ zoom, an image stabilizer, and a high-quality lens.

There are a few of these on the market now, (though Ricoh isn't available in the U.S.), but I'm not sure how they are on image quality. Manufacturers seem to equate "small" and "family snapshots," so they put in a low-end lens. At least that has been my impression, though I haven't revisited them recently.
 
There was recently a (LG) camera phone mentioned that had "everything" .... high-mpx, stabilization, flash, Zoom

Of course IQ is unknown, and questionable ....

And it is not yet available in the US. But I suppose eventually it may be.
For me it is the size of the camera. I'm not a professional
photographer, but I take and use a lot of photos. I have found that
the size of the camera is directly related to how likely I am to
carry it.

Big camera with lots of attachments is only used for dedicated
photography purposes. Small "consumer" camera travels with me anytime
I might see something interesting. Tiny, integrated-into-phone goes
everywhere I go.

The last one is just too small to be useful as a camera. Phones don't
have focus, zoom, flash, or enough pixels. My ideal camera would be
pocket-sized, have a 10x+ zoom, an image stabilizer, and a
high-quality lens.

There are a few of these on the market now, (though Ricoh isn't
available in the U.S.), but I'm not sure how they are on image
quality. Manufacturers seem to equate "small" and "family snapshots,"
so they put in a low-end lens. At least that has been my impression,
though I haven't revisited them recently.
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Thanks for reading .... JoePhoto

( Do You Ever STOP to THINK --- and FORGET to START Again ??? )
 

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