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The two images were taken with my sigma 10-20, at 10mm the first one is a true HDR, made by combining 7 different exposures (1 stop between each, on a tripod), while the second one is a "fake HDR" obtained from many variations of a single NEF. Actuallay, for the second one, this process really saved the picture, the original being washed out (too much light and contrast, picture taken at 2pm)

All comments are welcome, I'll learn from them!





As you can see, I still haven'p paid for the full version of Photomatix, si I've got the "Photomatix" logo written all over the place... I'm kind of waiting a bit before spendig a hundred dollars, or I'll ask my wife for Xmas!

regards,

Philippe

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'I talk way too much about camera and lenses: I gotta start shooting something!'
http://www.philippegratton.blogspot.com/
 
why is everything glowing in the second? I'm not a particularly proficient image editor, so I can't tell you how to fix it, but it's noticable...
 
Hi Philippe,

I am somewhat familiar with the HDR technique, but have never attempted it myself. I just want to confirm that for the first one, did you use different shutter speeds or different aperatures for the 7 exposures? I'm hoping (for my own understanding) that you varied that shutter speed, so that DOF would remain the same?
 
Regarding the second image - you can simply open a NEF file in the Photomatix and the result will the same or better than feeding it several variants of JPEG created from the same file...
lecastor said:
The two images were taken with my sigma 10-20, at 10mm the first one
is a true HDR, made by combining 7 different exposures (1 stop
between each, on a tripod), while the second one is a "fake HDR"
obtained from many variations of a single NEF. Actuallay, for the
second one, this process really saved the picture, the original being
washed out (too much light and contrast, picture taken at 2pm)

All comments are welcome, I'll learn from them!





As you can see, I still haven'p paid for the full version of
Photomatix, si I've got the "Photomatix" logo written all over the
place... I'm kind of waiting a bit before spendig a hundred dollars,
or I'll ask my wife for Xmas!

regards,

Philippe

--
'I talk way too much about camera and lenses: I gotta start shooting
something!'
http://www.philippegratton.blogspot.com/
Click to expand...
 
Unfortunately, both these images look overprocessed, and have that mottled look common to "bad HDRs". That said, they'd fit right in on the Flickr HDR groups :)

Try to work the images so as to conceal the fact that they're HDRs - ideally, you shouldn't be able to tell, except when you realise that there's more detail and contrast than the camera should have been able to resolve in a signel exposure...
 
I think the OP probably didn't set the light smoothing to "Very High", but that may have been the look they were going for. I have found that with Photomatix to get natural looking images I start with the strength set to 40, color saturation set to 55, and light smoothing all the way to the right. From there you can mix until you get a desireable result, but the giveaway is often overly saturated shadows, so I usually try to mix that down.
 
Thant's a very useful tips... Probably the first person who left a comment was talking about this halo when wrote "glowing"... I'll try it again starting from your settings.

Thanks again for all the comments
keithdbrown said:
I think the OP probably didn't set the light smoothing to "Very
High", but that may have been the look they were going for. I have
found that with Photomatix to get natural looking images I start with
the strength set to 40, color saturation set to 55, and light
smoothing all the way to the right. From there you can mix until you
get a desireable result, but the giveaway is often overly saturated
shadows, so I usually try to mix that down.
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'I talk way too much about camera and lenses: I gotta start shooting something!'
http://www.philippegratton.blogspot.com/
 
it a result of not mastering weel the "tone mapping technique" that one has to do when producing an HDR... I should play more with the "light smoothing" setting in Photomatix, as someone proposed lower...

Thanks for your comment

phil g
Matsu said:
why is everything glowing in the second? I'm not a particularly
proficient image editor, so I can't tell you how to fix it, but it's
noticable...
Click to expand...
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'I talk way too much about camera and lenses: I gotta start shooting something!'
http://www.philippegratton.blogspot.com/
 
thank you very much, I didn't know that... I might save me some time... I'll give it a try...

I'm wondering if Photomatix is as good at converting Nefs...

Thanks for your help :)

philippe G
jeans said:
lecastor said:
The two images were taken with my sigma 10-20, at 10mm the first one
is a true HDR, made by combining 7 different exposures (1 stop
between each, on a tripod), while the second one is a "fake HDR"
obtained from many variations of a single NEF. Actuallay, for the
second one, this process really saved the picture, the original being
washed out (too much light and contrast, picture taken at 2pm)

All comments are welcome, I'll learn from them!





As you can see, I still haven'p paid for the full version of
Photomatix, si I've got the "Photomatix" logo written all over the
place... I'm kind of waiting a bit before spendig a hundred dollars,
or I'll ask my wife for Xmas!

regards,

Philippe

--
'I talk way too much about camera and lenses: I gotta start shooting
something!'
http://www.philippegratton.blogspot.com/
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
--
'I talk way too much about camera and lenses: I gotta start shooting something!'
http://www.philippegratton.blogspot.com/
 
I agree that to be good, a HDR picture shouldn't be easy to identify as being so. I guess that if I fix the halo in the second one it will be much better...

anyway, thanks for your comment

phil g
squishyplane said:
Unfortunately, both these images look overprocessed, and have that
mottled look common to "bad HDRs". That said, they'd fit right in on
the Flickr HDR groups :)

Try to work the images so as to conceal the fact that they're HDRs -
ideally, you shouldn't be able to tell, except when you realise that
there's more detail and contrast than the camera should have been
able to resolve in a signel exposure...
Click to expand...
 
There are a lot of talented photographers on FLICKR........................

I like the over processed look, ok may not be to everyones taste but I also like the lucis effect that this has. Its personal taste.

Lets see some of your HDR shots processed in the correct way???

You may have failed in your attempt not to offend......not me personally as I've no HDR shots on the flickr sites but there are a 'few' decent ones ;-)

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Regards, FletchUK.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30649408@N00/
 
I tried ti make the second one look more natural. Actually, I somehow prefer the colors on the first version but attemped to remove some halo "the glowing" described by someone... I wish I could have the super-detailed stones and sand from the first version, with the absence of halo of the second... Maybe someday as I'll learn to use photoshop!

What do you think? Any constructive remarks?

Thank you very much

Phil G.



--
'I talk way too much about camera and lenses: I gotta start shooting something!'
http://www.philippegratton.blogspot.com/
 
Fantastic work, great image! This looks much better than the first, well done!
 
Hi Rob,

A previous poster said that I could have loaded a Nef file into photomatix and got same if not better result, but I didn't know it and haven't tried it. For sure it would have saved me a lot of time, thought.

Personally, I used Capture NX to create many jpegs with different exposure values from one raw file (in the case of this picture i went with 1/3 of a stop of difference between each: -2, -1.67, -1.33, -1, -0,67, -0.33, 1, +0.33, +0.67, +1, +1.33, +1.67 and +2) It's a time consuming process, as I had to change the exposure and saved the picture for each of the 13 pictures i wanted to have to work with)

If you don't have Capture NX, I recommend it to you, along with the very exellent e-book by Jason P. Odell, which was recommended to me by other posters on this forum.

http://www.luminescentphoto.com/

regards,

Philippe G.
Rob D40 said:
philippe I was just wondering how you used one raw file to make the
HDR? does photomatix do that for you?
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