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For those who traveled to Europe before with 24-105L and 70-200/70-300, how often did you use the tele? I am thinking of bringing just 10-22+24-105L to save some weight. Thanks
 
xendus said:
For those who traveled to Europe before with 24-105L and
70-200/70-300, how often did you use the tele? I am thinking of
bringing just 10-22+24-105L to save some weight. Thanks
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Travelled in Europe for 22 days and only used longer lenses a few times. Very helpful for closer views of castles on the Rhine River cruise. Also good for isolated landscapes.

Depends on your style, but if you are primarily not a long lens person you can get along with just those two. Absolutely good enough for street candids but for me, I would add the Canon 70-300mm IS non DO.
 
xendus said:
For those who traveled to Europe before with 24-105L and
70-200/70-300, how often did you use the tele? I am thinking of
bringing just 10-22+24-105L to save some weight. Thanks
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I havent' gone to Europe, but I do travel now and then. I have the 10-22 and 24-105L and they do serve me well. Sometimes, I wish I had a faster lens, but I could always include a 50 1.8 mk-II i(or a 50 f1.4) in the bag w/c will not occupy too much space.

My only complaint with the 24-105L is it's still a bit big for my taste, especially when one also owns a tamron 17-50 f2.8 di-II. But at least, it has the range and the IS to save the day. But for sure, you are covered well. The 10-22 will be for interiors or outdoor architecture/buildings. The 105mm will be good for those candids (head or head & shoulder shots) from a distance. I am even contemplating of getting that delayed ef-s 55-250 f4-5.6 IS if only to complete a 10-250mm lineup good enough for my personal enjoyment when I need to go from place to place but don't want to carry too big or heavy lenses, but yet the IQ will not be sacrificed greatly.

Yes, it's a good 2 lens combo. I have used these 2 for low light pro work as an events/wedding shooter. I see no reason why it would not be good for travel as well.

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'Always in the process of changing, growing, and transforming.'
 
I've made two trips to Europe and China using the following lenses each time:
  • 10-22mm EFS
  • 17-85mm EFS IS
  • 70-300mm DO IS
At the time I was using a Canon 20D. All three lenses are light weight AND fit the same slots in the camera bag! This makes switching lenses around much easier. Everything fit nicely in a LowePro Stealth 300 bag. Another bag option is the Tamrac stroller model. This was great for urban walks, Just roll your kit behind you. It carries a laptop and is top loading, just like a normal camera bag but with wheels.

The 70-300mm is great for sniping candids. It is compact and unobtrusive compared to the longer, white-barrel L lenses. You can't use a tele-converter on it so 300mm is a far as it goes.

I have since upgraded to a 5D, 16-35mm L and 24-105mm L IS. I kept the 70-300mm. Again, all the lenses fit the same slots in the bag, including height, and the two new lenses have the same filter sizes.

Enjoy!

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Blog: http://www.wazopia.com
 
If your willing to change lenses, 24-105 and 10-22 is the range I would liek to end up with...
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I live in and travel extensively within Europe. My main lenses are, in order of usage, are:
24-105 f/4 L
10-22 f/3.5-4.5
70-200 f/4 L

I rarely take the 70-200 with me when I travel unless I know I will have the opportunity to take shots of activities I know I won't be able to get close enough to cover with the 24-105.
 
I take it you're using a crop body such as the 30D or 40D. I had the 20D and my main travel lens in the Med was the 17-40mm. Now I have the 5D and my main travel lens is the 24-105mm. I'm thinking about getting the 70-200mm f/4 IS + 1.4X TC to compliment the 24-105mm.

If you are using the crop body the 24-105mm won't be wide enough for street photography. If you change to the 5D body....not a single lens is better for an all around lens on the 5D.

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Charles Lipton

'I wish I was half the person my dog thought I was'.

Canon 5D, EOS 3, 24-105mm, 85mm f/1.8, 100mm USM Macro, Minolta XD-11 35mm f/2.8MD, 50mm f/1.4MD, 135mm f/2.8MD, Leica MiniLux
 
24-105mm on a crop body gives a not very wide 38mm. On the other hand the 17-40mm on a crop body is the equivilent of 27mm. To me, having walked the street of Southern France, Italy and Greece that is barely just wide enough to capture the spirit of the cities. Best yet for a cropped camera body is the 10-22mm EF-S which in essense gives 16-35mm with very good image quality.

That would give a very please wide angle range then supplement that with the 24-105 but not the 24-105mm by itself; too long on a crop body for those much to see colorful cities.

Your opinion is welcome.
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Charles Lipton

'I wish I was half the person my dog thought I was'.

Canon 5D, EOS 3, 24-105mm, 85mm f/1.8, 100mm USM Macro, Minolta XD-11 35mm f/2.8MD, 50mm f/1.4MD, 135mm f/2.8MD, Leica MiniLux
 
That should give you extra range. I was really happy with some shots the other day with the teleconverter and the 24-105. Might save you some lugging!
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netgarden said:
That should give you extra range. I was really happy with some shots
the other day with the teleconverter and the 24-105. Might save you
some lugging!
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take a kenko pro 1.4x 300, esp. if you'll decide to to add 70-300IS as well,
it is not true that 70-300 will not work with TC - and to have an opportunity
to reach all these fantastic gargoyles, romanesque sculptures high up on
capitals or roofs it is not an opportunity which should be dismissed lightly -
Europe is just so plentiful with these marvels of a past era!!!

jpr2
 
I just got back from Italy, and I agree that 24 is not wide enough. You are usually wide on city streets and with lancscapes in the countryside.

I once brought a longer lens as well, and used it so rarely I now leave it home, just bring 50 1.8 for backup and low light.

If the focus of the trip isn't photography, do yourself and your spouse a favor and keep it simple. You don't want to be switching lenses all of the time. Or carrying a lot of weight all day.
harrydog said:
Chuxter31 said:
If you are using the crop body the 24-105mm won't be wide enough for
street photography.
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I don't agree with that at all.
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Hi jpr2. Do you have any pics taken with the kenko and 24-105 IS lens combine ? I would love to see some samples. I am interested in getting a teleconverter but got some advise that it would not work. Thanks in advance.
jpr2 said:
take a kenko pro 1.4x 300, esp. if you'll decide to to add 70-300IS
as well,
it is not true that 70-300 will not work with TC - and to have an
opportunity
to reach all these fantastic gargoyles, romanesque sculptures high up on
capitals or roofs it is not an opportunity which should be dismissed
lightly -
Europe is just so plentiful with these marvels of a past era!!!

jpr2
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Chuxter31 said:
24-105mm on a crop body gives a not very wide 38mm. On the other
hand the 17-40mm on a crop body is the equivilent of 27mm. To me,
having walked the street of Southern France, Italy and Greece that is
barely just wide enough to capture the spirit of the cities. Best
yet for a cropped camera body is the 10-22mm EF-S which in essense
gives 16-35mm with very good image quality.
That would give a very please wide angle range then supplement that
with the 24-105 but not the 24-105mm by itself; too long on a crop
body for those much to see colorful cities.

Your opinion is welcome.
--
Charles Lipton
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Well, 24mm (38mm equivalent) is certainly not perfect for every situation, but for me it's good for most situations. In Dubrovnik I carried a 70-200 zoom, a 50mm and a 24mm lens with my Nikon F3HP and found that the 24mm lens was the least used. There definitely were times that the 24mm was needed, but that was a relatively small percentage of my shots. If I were taking just one lens, it would be the 24-105, even on a crop body. But it's a moot point because he did say he planned to bring the 24-105 and the 10-22.

Anyway, you said that 24mm (38mm) was not wide enough for street photography and I was only trying to point out that that is a blanket statement which I think needs qualification.
 
read carefully.... 24mm on a crop body is not wide enough.
on a ful frame body it is fine.

--
Charles Lipton

'I wish I was half the person my dog thought I was'.

Canon 5D, EOS 3, 24-105mm, 85mm f/1.8, 100mm USM Macro, Minolta XD-11 35mm f/2.8MD, 50mm f/1.4MD, 135mm f/2.8MD, Leica MiniLux
 
Obelix said:
Do you have any pics taken with the kenko and 24-105 IS lens
combine?
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am yet to see any lens with which kenko pro 300 1.4x won't work,
just visit Linda's fantastic galleries (two posts above),

granted, there are some (MF only of a film era nikkor, PK, and leitz R
mount lenses with a grossly protruding mechanical aperture coupling
elements, but I guess you're talking about EF mount here? EF-S will
not work either due to the same reason)

jpr2
 
The 24-105mm on a 1.6 crop camera is the longest Canon lens I would recommend taking. It is long enough for street photography and inconspicuous. A 200mm or 300mm for wildlife is of little value in most of Europe. I might also consider the Sigma 50mm-150mm f2.8 constant zoom as it is small and fast but there are concerns about its sharpness at 50-100mm with some copies.

For cathedrals and landscapes the 10-20mm is an excellent choice. I would take this lens and the 24-105mm and possible a lens like the Sigma 30mm f1.4 for night photography. The Sigma 30mm on your camera provides a "normal" lens perspective and is 8x as fast as the 24-105mm f4 lens and IS does not help if you or your subject are moving at any speed.

A flash is also invaluable. In many places tripods are not allow and flash bounced of a wall or ceiling adds the light you need. I would also take a sync cord so you can take the flash of the camera.

A cable release helps with long exposures as does a small tripod like the Cullmann 1002 or a Bogen Superclamp (clamp it to a book or a stick and the clamp becomes a small and stable tripod in a pinch.
 
good decision.
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max
 
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