A splash in the groin for Albert (OT - oh Yes!)

Hi Jono, welcome back from your seaside trek. I love all the shapes and colors, and the way you've chosen to capture them. Numbers 6 & 8 are my favorites, though I like 8 best, that broody sky over the bright colors and angles of the roof lines -- and the colors slightly muted by the quality of the light--very nice!

Jeanne

-- http://www.BowserHome.com
 
Hello Jono

"Comment, criticism and insults will all be gratefully received!"

I think I have figuered out my battery problems with the E100,
when I first received the camera it came without battery charging
instructions. So naturally I under charged them doing just what
the camera shop people suggested. The 2 hours of charging I gave
them was quite insufficent. I have since found out that the 1700mAh
batteries tha came with the camera actually require much more
charging time.

So about your images Jono, some comments as you mention you would
be open to suggestions and criticism.

To be honest Jono I found them a tad ordinary and for the most part
sea side cliches. What one would expect from a trip to the sea side
by the local camera club. You are at a stage with these images
where you are simply photo copying the "thing" in front of you. But
not going beyond it with your talented inner vision.

Your images were something that literally many many thousands of
photographers could and would do. In my thinking you really need to
progress beyond this phase as its simply the first rung on a ten
step photographic ladder.

The sea invokes in my mind at least, smells, sounds, the rush and
hurried movement of white bubbling water, the wind in your face
blowing in off the water, the salt spray and simply the sheer joy
of being by the sea. It's really something that trancends beyond
the images you put up on you web site.

The challenge and next step is to make images not about the
external photocopied "thing" or scene before you using that all to
ovbious wide angle lens.

But instead show us your internal visual impressions of what the
greater ocean side represents. Doing it in a universal timeless
form where we all smell, feel and know what it is to be there in a
human universal sence, that is the greater visual challenge.

If I were your photographic teacher and I am not, I would be
sending you back there and tell you to keep working on it. You have
it in you, I feel that from you Jono, just look for it and find it
first residing in your creative inner vision. Then go about taking
your images, but do it contemplatively with understanding coming
from your inner visual core and not merely from the ordinary every
day vision most "photographes"r posess.

Taking those steps is not easy I know that from personal experience
but that's what living is all about. Reaching the next stage and
once grasped, looking for the next one which is always just ahead.
It's never ending, you can always simply stand still, like most
tend to do, or move ahead, it's up to each of us to make that
decision.
Hello Stephen -

I do understand the point you are making. Your comments may apply to this group of photos - Jono is getting used to a new camera after all, and it is harder to get beach photos that aren't cliches then otherwise, I suspect. (Like sunsets! [g]) I recommend however, that you check out the photos on his website. I think you'll find that Jono crossed that rung on a ten step photographic ladder a long time ago . . . at least in my humble opinion.
--Best,Laurie
 
Hi All
Sorry for absence - I've been allowed out of our newly developed
CCD cleaning laboratory for a moment to post these pictures (there
is a new gallery with twelve photos designed to catch the mood of
an early 'spring' day at the seaside!):

http://www.slack.co.uk/Suffolk2002/southwold/index.html
Hey there Jono - I am enjoying your new D1x photos. These are really a fine example of what your new setup can do. My faves are #5 and 6. Do I detect some barrel distortion (if that's what it's called) in #8 and 12? Would that be from the lens? At any rate, the colors are fantastic and the clarity and detail excellent. Thanks for posting these.

Sorry to hear that Emma has you locked in your room. I have it on good authority that if you don't start behaving yourself soon, she's going to stop the bread and water. [g] Please shape up - we don't want to lose you any more than we have already!--Best,Laurie
 
Hello Jono,

I really love the second one. Amazing depth and full of life. You must be enjoying that new toy of yours :-) I'm jealous and don't know if I want to talk with you anymore....

You just wait until I get my new toy, heh... :-)

As usual, a pleasure to look at you work Jono..

Wish you a relaxed and peaceful Easter break,

Cheers
Jens
Hi All
Sorry for absence - I've been allowed out of our newly developed
CCD cleaning laboratory for a moment to post these pictures (there
is a new gallery with twelve photos designed to catch the mood of
an early 'spring' day at the seaside!):

http://www.slack.co.uk/Suffolk2002/southwold/index.html

I had to help an old friend set up a new computer over the weekend,
they live near the coast, so I thought I'd pop down to the seaside
town of Southwold for an hour with the camera.

Weather was mixed - a little sunshine - damned cold!

For those who aren't in the know, Southwold is a sleepy seaside
town about 100 miles north east of London. It's rather trendy
amongst rich Londoners these days, and although it may still seem a
little down at heel, prices have gone through the roof.

It's the north sea - this means that it's brown, and freezing cold
(except when the currents bring up a little warmer water from the
Sizewell nuclear power plant a few miles down the coast). If you
are brave enough to go swimming, and foolish enough to open your
eyes under water, the browness is so dense as to make it dark.

Nothing daunted, these Londoners are reputed to pay as much as
£40,000 for beach huts - yes, that's nearly $60,000. There is a
wonderful row of beach huts, all with royal names: there's
Victoria, Queenie, Edward II, Albert . . . . . . and at the end of
the row there's Carl Marx!

Here is Albert:



The coast around here is very much subject to subsidence, and in a
(mostly vain) attempt to stop their houses dropping into the sea,
the locals have put a number of 'groin's along the coastline.

Here is a groin (with a muddy splash)



I hope you enjoy the pictures - now I must crawl back and have
ANOTHER go at getting that last piece of dust from my CCD.

Comment, criticism and insults will all be gratefully received!

kind regards

--
Jono Slack
http://www.slack.co.uk
--/ Jens ( E-10 & E-100RS )
 
I see you found the Haggis Bird thread. Now would that happen on
either the Nikon or Canon forums? Actually, I think Dr Blobby is
confusing this with the Hingis Bird which has both legs the same
length lives on the flats and tastes much better.
--
LCD
Dr Blobby, Dr Blobby!!!!!!! He's big, fat & pink with yellow spots .......er mmmm!

Great shot of the groin Jono. Superb.--Dr BobGallery: http://www.gm0eco.com
 
Jono,

serious question (from me that's a first! but I have to improve - my photography that is!).

Did you use any filters? Probably a polariser (with an s) but did you use a warm up filter or did you do that in PS? If it was in PS as I suspect, what was the work-flow for the warm up bit? Can't really find much info in the books I have on warm up or WB correction in PS.

I really need to go and buy an 81C. Wonder if it helps to keep the batteries warm?
--Dr BobGallery: http://www.gm0eco.com
 
Hi Frank

Thank you - I liked the last two as well - there were a lot more in the vein of No. 11, but I was trying for at least a little variety.

Truth be told, the weather was less than perfect, so most of these have been fairly heavily dealt with in photoshop - the E10 could have done just as good a job with all but a couple of them.

thanks for looking
kind regards
jono
You have proved that a good photographer can take wonderful
pictures with any old camera. :) Love the color and compositions,
especiallt 10 &11.

Frank B
Hi

Nice D1x photos. I like most of them but the Mandalay one with the
leaning lampost most. I like the colours and textures - very
seasidey.

You got the swabs bad then? Is it really that bad? Does it affect
your shooting? I have read that for the Canon D30/60 it is less of
a problem. Indeed, I could not see any swabs for it.

I see you found the Haggis Bird thread. Now would that happen on
either the Nikon or Canon forums? Actually, I think Dr Blobby is
confusing this with the Hingis Bird which has both legs the same
length lives on the flats and tastes much better.
--
LCD
--Jono Slack http://www.slack.co.uk
 
Hi Dr Blob

. . . . . . .. I thought that rather offensive as well - I think he knew wat he was talking about too. I should send in an exocet or two!

I'm glad you found my groin interesting

kind regards
jono slack
I see you found the Haggis Bird thread. Now would that happen on
either the Nikon or Canon forums? Actually, I think Dr Blobby is
confusing this with the Hingis Bird which has both legs the same
length lives on the flats and tastes much better.
--
LCD
Dr Blobby, Dr Blobby!!!!!!! He's big, fat & pink with yellow spots
.......er mmmm!

Great shot of the groin Jono. Superb.
--
Dr Bob

Gallery: http://www.gm0eco.com
--Jono Slack http://www.slack.co.uk
 
Hi Brian

How the devil are you?
wonderful as usual, whcih camera?
D1X - but really, they could just as easily have been taken with the E10 (except perhaps the Abert hut, which is rather wide angle). The weather was not great - flat hazy light, so there is much photoshop fiddling anyway.
and have you tried some gum on the end of a stick to get the dust off?
:-) what a good idea - I tried some squirty air - complete disaster, it made smeary marks all over the damn thing!

What sort of gum do you reckon? Wrigleys?

kind regards
jono
;)
Hi All
Sorry for absence - I've been allowed out of our newly developed
CCD cleaning laboratory for a moment to post these pictures (there
is a new gallery with twelve photos designed to catch the mood of
an early 'spring' day at the seaside!):

http://www.slack.co.uk/Suffolk2002/southwold/index.html

I had to help an old friend set up a new computer over the weekend,
they live near the coast, so I thought I'd pop down to the seaside
town of Southwold for an hour with the camera.

Weather was mixed - a little sunshine - damned cold!

For those who aren't in the know, Southwold is a sleepy seaside
town about 100 miles north east of London. It's rather trendy
amongst rich Londoners these days, and although it may still seem a
little down at heel, prices have gone through the roof.

It's the north sea - this means that it's brown, and freezing cold
(except when the currents bring up a little warmer water from the
Sizewell nuclear power plant a few miles down the coast). If you
are brave enough to go swimming, and foolish enough to open your
eyes under water, the browness is so dense as to make it dark.

Nothing daunted, these Londoners are reputed to pay as much as
£40,000 for beach huts - yes, that's nearly $60,000. There is a
wonderful row of beach huts, all with royal names: there's
Victoria, Queenie, Edward II, Albert . . . . . . and at the end of
the row there's Carl Marx!

Here is Albert:



The coast around here is very much subject to subsidence, and in a
(mostly vain) attempt to stop their houses dropping into the sea,
the locals have put a number of 'groin's along the coastline.

Here is a groin (with a muddy splash)



I hope you enjoy the pictures - now I must crawl back and have
ANOTHER go at getting that last piece of dust from my CCD.

Comment, criticism and insults will all be gratefully received!

kind regards

--
Jono Slack
http://www.slack.co.uk
--
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mackey135/njdigitalservices.htm
'I have discovered digital photography' Livin life at 5 megapixels!
--Jono Slack http://www.slack.co.uk
 
Hi David
Hi Jono,

Glad to see you've stopped back.
I'm glad - much better here "-)
(You've certainly suffered some ribbing and ridicule in several
threads during your absence. Naturally, I've refrained from
participating in any of those.....)
I've seen some of it . . . .can you point me to the best ones? I need to know that you really haven't been participating you see :-)
I had a good look at the new seaside pics. Difficult to choose any
overall favorites.......they're all salty and enjoyable. Love the
quaintness and color of those huts!
They're lovely - haven't done them justice really, but until the last 20 minutes or so (that's pictures 10-12), the light was hazy and flat - lots of photoshop work here.
Sorry you have been having a bit of de-dusting time. But, as you
say, it's no doubt a matter of hitting upon a proper routine. Not
a major problem?
No - a little courage required - and knowing when to stop . . .. but first I must get some 100% methanol - damned if I'm going to buy it from eclipse at £39 per 100ml - currently applying to doctor friends as the local chemist refuse to come up with the goods!.
Please do watch yourself in those "other" forums.......I hear they
permit live ammunition. (Here we only shoot stage blanks.)
Hmm they may be live, but they're definitely 'boredom bullets' - not really there are some nice characters around the Nikon forum (and some very talented ones as well - I've looked at a few websites - Don Reznik and Julien Landa spring to mind, but there are others).
Best wishes,
And back to you with brass knobs on!

kind regards
jono
--Jono Slack http://www.slack.co.uk
 
Hi Bill

I've seen the 'cowards' thread (even participated). But I understand there are others - I'd like to witness David's lack of participation first hand - please could you give me a pointer?

kind regards
jono
Greetings David,

Excuse me...what did you say?

(You've certainly suffered some ribbing and ridicule in several
threads during your absence. Naturally, I've refrained from
participating in any of those...)

Are you backpedalling? Come on "Partner" fess up on this one . . .

We are waiting . . .

Bill Siegrist
--
Bill Siegrist
http://public.fotki.com/SiegristPhoto/
--Jono Slack http://www.slack.co.uk
 
Hi Stephen
Hello Jono

"Comment, criticism and insults will all be gratefully received!"

I think I have figuered out my battery problems with the E100,
when I first received the camera it came without battery charging
instructions. So naturally I under charged them doing just what
the camera shop people suggested. The 2 hours of charging I gave
them was quite insufficent. I have since found out that the 1700mAh
batteries tha came with the camera actually require much more
charging time.
I really like the OLY Chargers - I'm glad you've sorted it out, the number of shots you were getting seemed crazy.
So about your images Jono, some comments as you mention you would
be open to suggestions and criticism.

To be honest Jono I found them a tad ordinary and for the most part
sea side cliches. What one would expect from a trip to the sea side
by the local camera club. You are at a stage with these images
where you are simply photo copying the "thing" in front of you. But
not going beyond it with your talented inner vision.
I think they were meant to be cliches - well, I KNOW they were meant to be cliches, but then that particular seaside town is a cliche in itself!
Your images were something that literally many many thousands of
photographers could and would do. In my thinking you really need to
progress beyond this phase as its simply the first rung on a ten
step photographic ladder.

The sea invokes in my mind at least, smells, sounds, the rush and
hurried movement of white bubbling water, the wind in your face
blowing in off the water, the salt spray and simply the sheer joy
of being by the sea. It's really something that trancends beyond
the images you put up on you web site.

The challenge and next step is to make images not about the
external photocopied "thing" or scene before you using that all to
ovbious wide angle lens.

But instead show us your internal visual impressions of what the
greater ocean side represents. Doing it in a universal timeless
form where we all smell, feel and know what it is to be there in a
human universal sence, that is the greater visual challenge.

If I were your photographic teacher and I am not, I would be
sending you back there and tell you to keep working on it. You have
it in you, I feel that from you Jono, just look for it and find it
first residing in your creative inner vision. Then go about taking
your images, but do it contemplatively with understanding coming
from your inner visual core and not merely from the ordinary every
day vision most "photographes"r posess.

Taking those steps is not easy I know that from personal experience
but that's what living is all about. Reaching the next stage and
once grasped, looking for the next one which is always just ahead.
It's never ending, you can always simply stand still, like most
tend to do, or move ahead, it's up to each of us to make that
decision.

As you said Jono "Comment, criticism and insults will all be
gratefully received!"

Stephen
Ho Hum - hmmm - Aaaah - I think I'd better try again! all too obvious wide angle lens - mmm. You are of course right - at least in some respect; I suspect that the awful truth is that I don't really like that part of the coast, and maybe this comes out in the photos - I have some swirling sea and stuff, but definitely opted for the cliche stuff - consciously, but that doesn't make it a good idea.

My only defence is that I had 90 minutes, and that until the last 10 minutes the light was awful - bright, hazy flat mid afternoon light - just when you shouldn't take photos. I've managed to jolly them up in photoshop a little, but I do have a kind of rule, that if the light isn't interesting, the photos aren't either.

Thanks for this one Stephen, it's food for thought, and it's always the critical eye which is most valuable

kind regards
jono
--Jono Slack http://www.slack.co.uk
 
Laurie - you're a darling :-)

really!

But - truth to tell, Stephen is largely right - my only defence is that I was actually trying for the seaside cliches.

But as I said to him, these sort of responses are really valuable, and he took the time and effort to explain himself thoroughly.

thanks again
kind regards
jono
Hello Jono

"Comment, criticism and insults will all be gratefully received!"

I think I have figuered out my battery problems with the E100,
when I first received the camera it came without battery charging
instructions. So naturally I under charged them doing just what
the camera shop people suggested. The 2 hours of charging I gave
them was quite insufficent. I have since found out that the 1700mAh
batteries tha came with the camera actually require much more
charging time.

So about your images Jono, some comments as you mention you would
be open to suggestions and criticism.

To be honest Jono I found them a tad ordinary and for the most part
sea side cliches. What one would expect from a trip to the sea side
by the local camera club. You are at a stage with these images
where you are simply photo copying the "thing" in front of you. But
not going beyond it with your talented inner vision.

Your images were something that literally many many thousands of
photographers could and would do. In my thinking you really need to
progress beyond this phase as its simply the first rung on a ten
step photographic ladder.

The sea invokes in my mind at least, smells, sounds, the rush and
hurried movement of white bubbling water, the wind in your face
blowing in off the water, the salt spray and simply the sheer joy
of being by the sea. It's really something that trancends beyond
the images you put up on you web site.

The challenge and next step is to make images not about the
external photocopied "thing" or scene before you using that all to
ovbious wide angle lens.

But instead show us your internal visual impressions of what the
greater ocean side represents. Doing it in a universal timeless
form where we all smell, feel and know what it is to be there in a
human universal sence, that is the greater visual challenge.

If I were your photographic teacher and I am not, I would be
sending you back there and tell you to keep working on it. You have
it in you, I feel that from you Jono, just look for it and find it
first residing in your creative inner vision. Then go about taking
your images, but do it contemplatively with understanding coming
from your inner visual core and not merely from the ordinary every
day vision most "photographes"r posess.

Taking those steps is not easy I know that from personal experience
but that's what living is all about. Reaching the next stage and
once grasped, looking for the next one which is always just ahead.
It's never ending, you can always simply stand still, like most
tend to do, or move ahead, it's up to each of us to make that
decision.
Hello Stephen -

I do understand the point you are making. Your comments may apply
to this group of photos - Jono is getting used to a new camera
after all, and it is harder to get beach photos that aren't cliches
then otherwise, I suspect. (Like sunsets! [g]) I recommend
however, that you check out the photos on his website. I think
you'll find that Jono crossed that rung on a ten step photographic
ladder a long time ago . . . at least in my humble opinion.

--
Best,
Laurie
--Jono Slack http://www.slack.co.uk
 
HI Diane

How the devil are you?

thanks for looking:
Nothing daunted, these Londoners are reputed to pay as much as
£40,000 for beach huts - yes, that's nearly $60,000. There is a
wonderful row of beach huts, all with royal names: there's
Victoria, Queenie, Edward II, Albert . . . . . . and at the end of
the row there's Carl Marx!
We used to have 'groins' on our NC coast but they have been made
more or less illegal--since they allow deposits of sand one place
while creating problems in unplanned areas. People still try
though--not understanding tides nor the persistence of the seas.
I think groins have gone rather out of fashion around here as well (this one actually had a sign saying something like 'redundant groin' on it - as if that made any difference!
I rather like all of them, but am taken most, I think, by #8. I
just liked the bright colors/shapes against the more colorless
dreay sky.

What do people do in these huts?? Are they just for changing?--or
do the slightly larger ones (with the porches) have eating/sleeping
areas?? We don't have anything comparable at our beaches.
However, at one of the revival campgrounds near here (called
'arbors') where certain church groups meet year after year, there
are little huts that look just about the same. Families 'own' each
one, paint and decorate to suit, stay a whole week for 'preaching'
and there is just enough room to sleep/eat and sit on the tiny
porches.
They use them for changing - and sitting in when the weather ain't so great (most of the time) they usually have little gas stoves in, but you wouldn't want to sleep in one!
Glad you shared these with us. Hope you will continue to do so.
Glad you are enjoying the new cam. Have you had much cleaning?--I
plan to look at the D100 when it comes out (for 'research") and
keep wondering about the truth with the interchangeaable lens and
dust. I'm still in no hurry, but no reason not to keep up with the
new possibilies.
I haven't really cracked the cleaning - except to discover that aerosol 'clean' air is a real disaster - but, to be honest, it doesn't look like too much of a problem; I need to get some methanol, and then I think it'll be a 5 minute job every 3 weeks or so, not really an issue.

Don't hurry - I probably shouldn't have done, the real advantage is that the extra pixels and the lack of noise allow you to do a lot more fiddling about with the photos.

kind regards
jono
Cheers, Diane
--
Diane B
http://www.pbase.com/picnic/galleries
B/W lover, but color is seducing me
--Jono Slack http://www.slack.co.uk
 
HI David

Thanks - Emma likes this one best as well. As for many of the others, it has been much fiddled with - the sky, for a start, was from quite a different photo - this one had flat white bright clouds. I think I should have done a bit of dodging to bring out the colour in the red hut some more.

whatever - maybe Stephen is right that they are all cliches with the 'all too obvious' wide angle lense (sigh, and I was having so much fun with it :-)

kind regards
jono
Hi Di,

Glad you mentioned #8.......if I HAD to choose a favorite, that was
going to be it:



Best wishes,

David
--
http://www.mongoosephoto.com
--Jono Slack http://www.slack.co.uk
 
HI Bill

Thank you - they've been holding me down and torturing me with CCD swab price lists :-)

I'm glad you like the photos - I had some fun taking them, and a lot of fun fiddling about with them!

kind regards
jono
Partner David,

Tell me . . . which one of them have they (evil empire...Nikon
forum) been keeping our poor Jono. Did they torture him? Did he
confess?

Go ahead, let's hear it . . . I can stand to hear how painful it
was for him, do not spare the details.

Bill Siegrist

P.S. Yea! . . . Jono's back in grand form with lots of exceptional
photos.

--
Bill Siegrist
http://public.fotki.com/SiegristPhoto/
--Jono Slack http://www.slack.co.uk
 
Hi Gregg

Thank you - I'm glad you like them - opinion seems divided!

As for the eyes - they were 20/20 until about 5 years ago, now I have to decide between the contact lenses and the varifocals (sigh)

today, it's the contact lenses!

kind regards
jono slack
Salutations Jono,
Fantastic shots Jono. I want your eyes. One will do.
Gregg
--Jono Slack http://www.slack.co.uk
 
Hi 7

Please to be of service - It has to be said, given the world to travel; Southwold is not where I'd choose to end up, the beach is okay (ish) the sea is brown, and the wind comes straight from Siberia!

It was damned cold!

But I agree, it's good to see a little of other people's worlds.

kind regards
jono
Hi All
Sorry for absence - I've been allowed out of our newly developed
CCD cleaning laboratory for a moment to post these pictures (there
is a new gallery with twelve photos designed to catch the mood of
an early 'spring' day at the seaside!):

Hi Jono,
Like most photographers I love to travel. However the limit on my
wallet prohibits me from going to all the places I wish I could.
That is one of the biggest reasons that I enjoy this forum. I get
to see great shots of other places. I may never make it to
England, but thanks to you and others like you, I feel like I have
been there. Thanks for sharing.

7
--Jono Slack http://www.slack.co.uk
 

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