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Filters on the S5 ?
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Hank3152
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Many owners of the S series purchase the UV filter mainly to protect the lens which also requires an adapter. The filter has other advantages as well. Read the FAQs in the attached link and it will also suggest what size you may need, then scroll to the bottom of the page where clicking will take you to another page where you can check out the accessories.
http://www.lensmateonline.com/newsite/S2.html
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Stephen McDonald
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I've been using a Lensmate filter and telextender adaptor tube on my S5. I could attach a 58mm filter to it, but since the lens is recessed inside it, I feel safe that I won't damage the glass, so I don't use a filter ordinarily. With all my other cameras and camcorders, that have the lens more exposed, I put on a UV filter for protection.
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MrClick #421805
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Hi Stephen,
I'd be grateful if you could you post a pic of your S5 with the Lensmate filter and tele-extender adapter tube fitted on it.
Also, your reason why you decided to choose Lensmate in particular will also help.
Thanks.
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sharkync
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Highly recommend the lensmate adapter tubes (I use the 52mm) not so much for the filter capability but to protect the fragile lens mechanism from bumps when it is extended. The tubes stay on my camera at all times. Order the lens cap as well.
I also have had good experiences with the Raynox 6600 wide angle lens which is mounted to its own tube.
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I also have had good experiences with the Raynox 6600 wide angle lens which is mounted to its own tube.
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MrClick #421805
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So I wouldn't be able to use the original lens cap that came with the camera?
Does the lensmate lens cap also automatically drop off when the camera is switched on?
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Phhoenyxx
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It doesn't need to because the Lensmate adapter is longer than the fully extended lens. So in any case, the lens never touches the lens cap when the Lensmate adapter is on.
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sharkync
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For what it's worth - DO NOT, in my opinion, allow the lens to force off the lens cap - on any camera - but especially the S series! The lens extension mechanism is extremely fragile.
Yes you need a new lens cap - but with the tether it's worth $5.
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MrClick #421805
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Thanks to both of you, Phhoenyxx & sharkync, for your prompt clarifications. Indeed it looks like a useful thing to attach as protection, if nothing else.
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sharkync
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It's also very useful for a circular polarizer or neutral density filters. The tubes are very handy - you could also try reversing a lens for incredible macro shots. I stongly recommend these tubes!
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Stephen McDonald
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Here's the S5 IS with the Lensmate adaptor. I got this instead of the stock Canon
adaptor because they make it from aluminum and it is regarded as being sturdier and having threads and a bayonet connector that are more durable. The current price for it is $27., U.S., plus $8. for Priority Mail delivery by USPS. Check their website for overseas delivery possibilities. It works very nicely and holds up a big telextender that you can see on my next message, without any problem.
http://www.lensmateonline.com
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Steve McDonald
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Stephen McDonald
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This picture shows the S5 on my shoulder-mount, with the Lensmate adaptor and a Raynox DCR-2020PRO telextender. The Raynox gives 2.2X and fits on the adaptor tube with a 58mm to 62mm step-up ring. There's a supporting point on the platform under the back end of the telex, but the adaptor seems able to hold it up, when hand-held. This long lens gives some leverage and acts as a counterweight, so I can hold it fairly steady when doing full-zoom shots, even when it's not on the mounting rig. You can see some of my S5 and Sony H9 pictures on the first 3 pages of my Flickr album. I've had good results with this telex on my Sony H5 and Olympus C-2100UZ, as well as on some camcorders.
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Steve McDonald
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tyampel
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Stephen.
How does the Raynox compare to Sony's DH1758?
Good resolution?
No excess PF?
I am thinking of buying it for my Sony H9.
Thanks.
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Tod Yampel
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How does the Raynox compare to Sony's DH1758?
Good resolution?
No excess PF?
I am thinking of buying it for my Sony H9.
Thanks.
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Stephen McDonald
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The issue of color-fringing (CF)------it comes in purple, red and green------ is complex, regarding telextenders. The lenses of Ultrazoom cameras produce it on their own under some circumstances, especially at full zoom. When a telextender magnifies an image from the camera's lens, then if CF exists, it gets magnified as well, and becomes more evident. I haven't seen any examples yet in my own photos, where either the Sony VCL-DH1758 or the Raynox DCR-2020PRO telextenders caused any CF on their own, where it didn't exist from the camera's basic lens.
With or without either of these two telextenders, the Sony H9 seems to produce less CF than either the H5 or the Canon S5. As much as I like the results I'm getting from an S5 so far, it seems to cause more CF than these other two models. However, there's pictures I've taken with the S5, where I deliberately tried to generate some CF, by shooting at high-contrast edges, aiming close to the position of the Sun and they came out completely clean. The occurence of CF seems to be irregular and when (and if) I figure out all the contributing causes,
I'll report them.
I believe that although the DH1758 works very well and gives sharp images, that the Raynox 2.2X is a bit sharper. It is rated at 260 lines of resolution per mm, which is very high for a large telextender, while I've found no such specification listed for the Sony lens. I see no edge-softness or distortion from the Raynox.
I never used either telex on the H9, as I didn't have the adaptor for it, but did use them a lot on my H5. In the last several pages of my Flickr album, you can see a number of pictures where I used the Raynox 2.2X, with an H5 and an Olympus C-2100UZ. Many of the other pictures in my album were shot with the Raynox, but are not labeled for it. There are no S5/Raynox 2.2X pictures there yet, but in the next several days I will probably have some to post. You can buy the Raynox from Lensmate, which is located in the Seattle, Wash. area and get USPS delivery within 2 to 3 days.
With a Raynox 2020PRO and an H9, set at 3 MP with Smart Zoom, you could get about 1,840 mm, so the magnification potential is great. Actually, it's too great for most scenes and the DH1758 or DH1774 are much more practical for most situations. With the DH1774, there would be little, if any, vignetting, while with the 2020PRO, you could expect vignetting below about 70% full zoom (just a rough estimate). With the much larger mounting-thread diameter on the H9, the vignetting might start at an even higher zoom point point. Maybe, someone on the Sony forum has tried this and could give an exact figure. The Raynox has a 62mm mounting thread and comes supplied with a 58mm to 62mm step-up ring and one for 52mm to 62mm. Pemeraal is now selling a 74mm to 62mm step-down ring, for mounting the Raynox on the stock H9 adaptor tube, which is the way I would set it up.
I'm not too keen on the two-section, telescoping adaptor that Pemeraal has just developed for the H7 and H9, which may be available soon. It may work just fine, but I personally would stick with just using the standard Sony adaptor tube and a step-down ring. With this telescoping adaptor, you'd still have to use a 58mm to 62mm step-up ring, which might increase vignetting. By using the 74mm to 62mm ring instead, you'd keep the smallest diameter in the linkage at 62mm, instead of 58mm with the Pemerall adaptor tube. Good luck.
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Stephen McDonald
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If you order an adaptor tube from Lensmate and you need a lens-cap or a hood, be sure to add them to your order, as they're not included. They cost $5. each.
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MrClick #421805
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Steve,
Thanks for your pics. After reading your comments I get the feeling I should invest in at least the adapter tube just for the sake of safety, if nothing else. The teleextender lens are an exciting option too, and I think I may invest in one of these as well after a few months.
A question: Do these teleextender lens have decent resale value? I ask this because I am prone to changing cameras ever so often and would be interested in reselling the teleextender if I do not pick up the S6IS in future.
By the way, your shoulder mount reminds me of a steadicam contraption I used on a broadcast video camcorder in the 1990s. Some of my classmates (from film school) and I had got together and started up a video film production company and we used to make corporate films and documentaries in both film and video formats for clients in India back then.
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Thanks for your pics. After reading your comments I get the feeling I should invest in at least the adapter tube just for the sake of safety, if nothing else. The teleextender lens are an exciting option too, and I think I may invest in one of these as well after a few months.
A question: Do these teleextender lens have decent resale value? I ask this because I am prone to changing cameras ever so often and would be interested in reselling the teleextender if I do not pick up the S6IS in future.
By the way, your shoulder mount reminds me of a steadicam contraption I used on a broadcast video camcorder in the 1990s. Some of my classmates (from film school) and I had got together and started up a video film production company and we used to make corporate films and documentaries in both film and video formats for clients in India back then.
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Stephen McDonald
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I'm sure they would resell at good prices, but their owners become so attached to them, you see few of them for sale on a used basis. Those you could find, would mostly be from professional re-sellers on the auction websites. I've used them both on a half-dozen cameras and camcorders.
I've been working on my shoulder-mounts for 18 years and most of them have been for video cameras. Since image-stabilization became common, I've been able to remove a lot of the heavy counterweights from the bottom. I used to have a full-sized Beta camcorder that weighed 23 lbs. with the mount. When I'd take it on 10-mile Nature expeditions, it was a good part of my day's exercise.
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MrClick #421805
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Wow! You also manufacture these shoulder-mounts yourself? From your posts it seems there's a lot to learn from the experience and wisdom you have amassed over these decades. Are you based in the USA? If I can, I would love to meet up with you on my next visit there.
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