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The pictures was taken with the 18-200VR, hand held. Can you tell which is which?

All pics taken in jpeg and straight out of the camera no pp.









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D1H
D70s
70-200 VR
18-200mm DX VRII
50mm 1.8
SB-600
 
Well, you made it to easy for us, you didn´t exclude the exif info. Very easy to just check that and see what camera that took the shots.

I have already checked but will not spoil it for someone else.

If you hurry up, you could resave the images without exif info and really see if people can guess.

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Rickard Hansson
Sweden
 
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Please ignore the Typos, I'm the world's worst Typist

 
The first are the D70 shots - more detailed to my eye. It appears the shots may have been taken some time apart - the ship in the bottom pair of photos is absent in one of them, so it could be difficult to compare colours as the light may have changed.
 
Beside the custom curves, the color space, hue adjustment, sharpening, ISO, exposure.
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The Pirate
 
Yes this was an unfair test as the camera settings are not the same. I took the pics with the D1H last week and the D70s yesterday. I just wanted to see what difference if any from the two cameras.

Maybe I'll go back next week with both cameras and retake using same settings. But I'm satisfied with how both set of pics turned out.

Oh yeah, the 1st pics are from the D70s.

Don't know why but I seem to have better luck adjusting levels from jpegs shot with the D70s than I do with the D1H. Maybe it's just me. :)

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D1H
D70s
70-200 VR
18-200mm DX VRII
50mm 1.8
SB-600
 
Rickard Hansson said:
Well, you made it to easy for us, you didn´t exclude the exif info.
Very easy to just check that and see what camera that took the
shots.

I have already checked but will not spoil it for someone else.
If you hurry up, you could resave the images without exif info and
really see if people can guess.

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Rickard Hansson
Sweden
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hi, can you please tell me how to see the exif of a posted image?? thanks
 
Mofongo said:
Mofongo said:
JaguarsLogic wrote:
hi, can you please tell me how to see the exif of a posted image??
thanks
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Use this free program...
http://www.opanda.com/en/iexif/index.html

Than you can right click on any photo on the web that still has
exif info and the program will tell you the exif...

Bob

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http://www.pbase.com/mofongo
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wow, thanks very much. I got it installed and running in two mins flat. thanks
 
I love both cameras for what they were designed to do. We must remember the D1H is a little older but worth every penny when used for what it was designed. (except the batteries)
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The Pirate
 
Since acquiring the D1H, I have not yet unloaded my D70s; however, these pics give me pause about selling it. Is it me, or do I see more detail in the D70s shots? But then, I remember Adam-T's comments about per pixel sharpness and the D1H. Detail is important to me in the ocassional environmental portrait I take of my kids.

Hmmmm....I'd love to see these reshot (is that a word?) with the D1H, but zoomed in, and stitch 2 or more captures.

Regards,
RangerJoe
 
The color mode between both shots are different (D1H, Adobe RGB and D70 Color Mode III) secondly the D70 has a custom curve loaded. The only way to make it fair is to shoot with same settings.
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The Pirate
 
saycheezz

Do you use your D1H for certain pictures and your D70s for other stuff or is your D70s strictly a back-up? Which do you prefer for image quality and why?

Regards,
RangerJoe
 
RangerJoe said:
saycheezz

Do you use your D1H for certain pictures and your D70s for other
stuff or is your D70s strictly a back-up? Which do you prefer for
image quality and why?

Regards,
RangerJoe
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Hey RJ,

I tend to use my D1H for sport photography and the D70s for general photog, but when I do go out for a shoot, I take both cameras with me. If I need to use a flash then it's the D70 that I would use. After getting use to the speed of the D1H, it's hard going back to the D70s. But the D70s does certain things better than the D1H and flash use is one of them.

In terms of IQ, I'm not able to tell between the two when I print out on a 4x6 or 5x7. I haven't printed anything bigger from the two using the same shot. I've shot the city skyline using both so I may test out 8x10's with that.

I did notice one thing between the two. I tend to have better results in PP using jpegs from the D70s than I do with D1H jpegs. I think it's just me, but there seems to be more pop coming from the D70s files after PP.

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D1H
D70s
70-200 VR
18-200mm DX VRII
50mm 1.8
SB-600
 
saycheezz wrote:

"In terms of IQ, I'm not able to tell between the two when I print out on a 4x6 or 5x7. I haven't printed anything bigger from the two using the same shot. I've shot the city skyline using both so I may test out 8x10's with that."

saycheezz

Thanks for that information. I find it very interesting as I still have my D70s. I'll have to do some similar comparisons with actual prints and see if I can discern any difference. If you do a test of 8x10's, please share on this forum!

I keep remembering Adam-T's words about the D1H. Here is but one of many of his postings: "the D1X is sharper [than a D100] but still not as sharp as a D1H by a long mark pixel for pixel (the D2X and D2HS are the sharpest cameras out there in current production but are also about the noisiest NATIVELY, you can't win ) so there is less actual rez diff between the D1X and D1H than you'd think."

How does "less actual rez diff" and pixel for pixel sharpness manifest itself in an actual print? There is something about low resolution and sharp pixels, and their interaction, that I have not yet untangled. That is what I'm trying to wrap my brain around. Do you have any idea?

Regards,
RangerJoe
 
No I wouldn't know. Maybe it has something to do with craming in more pixels on the same sensor.
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D1H
D70s
70-200 VR
18-200mm DX VRII
50mm 1.8
SB-600
 
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