1D to service

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Just sent my 1D into service. It says it will take 1 to 2 weeks.
Reasons for sending in:

1) the possible hardware upgrade that was mentioned in the Firmware 1.3 release. I will talk to the technician directly tomorrow to find out more. With 1.3, I am still seeing banding at ISO200, especially when i 'add EV' in the TWAIN software.

2) I believe my 1D is focusing too closely... as in if I shoot an object that is 8ft away, it seems to be focusing at around 7ft 6inches instead. very odd. it looks SHARP on via the viewfinder, but the final image always show that the 'closer' part is sharper than where i focused on.

wish me luck!

ws--ws
 
WS,
I read that turn around time on the 1D was getting top priority.
If purchased in USA it's suppose to be fixed within 3 days of receipt.
check Rob Galbraith's site for more info.
http://www.robgalbraith.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=18&t=000374

Jim C.
Just sent my 1D into service. It says it will take 1 to 2 weeks.
Reasons for sending in:

1) the possible hardware upgrade that was mentioned in the Firmware
1.3 release. I will talk to the technician directly tomorrow to
find out more. With 1.3, I am still seeing banding at ISO200,
especially when i 'add EV' in the TWAIN software.

2) I believe my 1D is focusing too closely... as in if I shoot an
object that is 8ft away, it seems to be focusing at around 7ft
6inches instead. very odd. it looks SHARP on via the viewfinder,
but the final image always show that the 'closer' part is sharper
than where i focused on.

wish me luck!

ws
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ws
 
Your focusing problem WSLam... is that with servo mode or just shooting a static image? How about when switching to MF?
Thanks for the feedback
JR
Just sent my 1D into service. It says it will take 1 to 2 weeks.
Reasons for sending in:

1) the possible hardware upgrade that was mentioned in the Firmware
1.3 release. I will talk to the technician directly tomorrow to
find out more. With 1.3, I am still seeing banding at ISO200,
especially when i 'add EV' in the TWAIN software.

2) I believe my 1D is focusing too closely... as in if I shoot an
object that is 8ft away, it seems to be focusing at around 7ft
6inches instead. very odd. it looks SHARP on via the viewfinder,
but the final image always show that the 'closer' part is sharper
than where i focused on.

wish me luck!

ws
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ws
 
Thanks Jim, but I don't know if this applies to HK. I hope it does.

ws
Jim C.
Just sent my 1D into service. It says it will take 1 to 2 weeks.
Reasons for sending in:

1) the possible hardware upgrade that was mentioned in the Firmware
1.3 release. I will talk to the technician directly tomorrow to
find out more. With 1.3, I am still seeing banding at ISO200,
especially when i 'add EV' in the TWAIN software.

2) I believe my 1D is focusing too closely... as in if I shoot an
object that is 8ft away, it seems to be focusing at around 7ft
6inches instead. very odd. it looks SHARP on via the viewfinder,
but the final image always show that the 'closer' part is sharper
than where i focused on.

wish me luck!

ws
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ws
--ws
 
Same with MF, as long as the 'focus' is 'confirmed' by the camera, the focus seems to be off. I have NOT tried using AI Servo however, so either MF or AF Single shot will give me focus problem.

ws
Just sent my 1D into service. It says it will take 1 to 2 weeks.
Reasons for sending in:

1) the possible hardware upgrade that was mentioned in the Firmware
1.3 release. I will talk to the technician directly tomorrow to
find out more. With 1.3, I am still seeing banding at ISO200,
especially when i 'add EV' in the TWAIN software.

2) I believe my 1D is focusing too closely... as in if I shoot an
object that is 8ft away, it seems to be focusing at around 7ft
6inches instead. very odd. it looks SHARP on via the viewfinder,
but the final image always show that the 'closer' part is sharper
than where i focused on.

wish me luck!

ws
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ws
--ws
 
can you post or email me some of the iso 200 banding photos with v1.3? thanks mark
Just sent my 1D into service. It says it will take 1 to 2 weeks.
Reasons for sending in:

1) the possible hardware upgrade that was mentioned in the Firmware
1.3 release. I will talk to the technician directly tomorrow to
find out more. With 1.3, I am still seeing banding at ISO200,
especially when i 'add EV' in the TWAIN software.

2) I believe my 1D is focusing too closely... as in if I shoot an
object that is 8ft away, it seems to be focusing at around 7ft
6inches instead. very odd. it looks SHARP on via the viewfinder,
but the final image always show that the 'closer' part is sharper
than where i focused on.

wish me luck!

ws
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ws
 
Canon HK just called and said that they have performed the 'hardware upgrade' for my camera, but they didn't find anything wrong with the AF, which is worrisome...

I will have it back next week.

ws--ws
 
Hi WS LAm,

I also sent in my 1D two days ago. I am told by Canon that it will only take two to three days. However, I call them today again and my camera is still in the shop not the Service Centre yet. What a service?

I do not have the focus problem on my 1d. Everything is sharp on focus. I have struggling whether to send in the camera for services as I am told that it will get even worst after the repair by Canon Hong Kong as they are not trained well especially on this complicated electronic camera. I am a little worried.
Canon HK just called and said that they have performed the
'hardware upgrade' for my camera, but they didn't find anything
wrong with the AF, which is worrisome...

I will have it back next week.

ws
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ws
 
Hi Benny,
Dont scare me! You also in HK?

I would assume enough press in HK are using the 1D that they ought to be somewhat competent.
I should have mine back by Wednesday next week. I will post again.

ws
I also sent in my 1D two days ago. I am told by Canon that it will
only take two to three days. However, I call them today again and
my camera is still in the shop not the Service Centre yet. What a
service?

I do not have the focus problem on my 1d. Everything is sharp on
focus. I have struggling whether to send in the camera for services
as I am told that it will get even worst after the repair by Canon
Hong Kong as they are not trained well especially on this
complicated electronic camera. I am a little worried.
Canon HK just called and said that they have performed the
'hardware upgrade' for my camera, but they didn't find anything
wrong with the AF, which is worrisome...

I will have it back next week.

ws
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ws
--ws
 
Hi Lam,

Yes. I am also in Hong Kong. I sent my camera to TST shop and the staff seems to know nothing about the camera. I insist her to mark down there is not a single scratch on the body as some of my friends sent in the camera and return with scratch. Anyway, I hope they would take good care on my camera, otherwise I will keep complaining to their Marketing or Japanese Head Office. For the Canon Hong KOng services, you can read some local website and you can find out how good they are. I am not scared you but be prepared. I am so admired to the Canon US services as learned from this website.
ws
I also sent in my 1D two days ago. I am told by Canon that it will
only take two to three days. However, I call them today again and
my camera is still in the shop not the Service Centre yet. What a
service?

I do not have the focus problem on my 1d. Everything is sharp on
focus. I have struggling whether to send in the camera for services
as I am told that it will get even worst after the repair by Canon
Hong Kong as they are not trained well especially on this
complicated electronic camera. I am a little worried.
Canon HK just called and said that they have performed the
'hardware upgrade' for my camera, but they didn't find anything
wrong with the AF, which is worrisome...

I will have it back next week.

ws
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ws
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ws
 
Yes. I am also in Hong Kong. I sent my camera to TST shop and the
staff seems to know nothing about the camera. I insist her to mark
down there is not a single scratch on the body as some of my
friends sent in the camera and return with scratch. Anyway, I hope
they would take good care on my camera, otherwise I will keep
complaining to their Marketing or Japanese Head Office. For the
Canon Hong KOng services, you can read some local website and you
can find out how good they are. I am not scared you but be
prepared. I am so admired to the Canon US services as learned from
this website.
ws
I also sent in my 1D two days ago. I am told by Canon that it will
only take two to three days. However, I call them today again and
my camera is still in the shop not the Service Centre yet. What a
service?

I do not have the focus problem on my 1d. Everything is sharp on
focus. I have struggling whether to send in the camera for services
as I am told that it will get even worst after the repair by Canon
Hong Kong as they are not trained well especially on this
complicated electronic camera. I am a little worried.
Canon HK just called and said that they have performed the
'hardware upgrade' for my camera, but they didn't find anything
wrong with the AF, which is worrisome...

I will have it back next week.

ws
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ws
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ws
--Mike_ 1D, E-10
 
I can't speak for the banding issue as the latest pictures I've seen from several cameras that have had the 1.3 firmware update exhibit very little banding even at ISO800. As far as the focusing is concerned, the focusing system on the 1D is SO sophisticated that one MUST be consistent with the focus point/cluster chosen to be used and make sure one is NOT delaying release of the shutter after focus confirmation. Chuck Westfall on the Gailbraith forum has discussed this. I see no reason to have focus issues if A: you fully understand how to set and USE the focus points on the 1D and B: are consistent with your shooting style so as to fully release shutter upon focus lock with NO hesitation.
 
after a week and one day, i got my 1D back from Canon HK.
I talked to the technician while the camera was in their service center.
anyway, here is what they claimed they have 'fixed'

They just put down they have upgraded the firmware, which got me all pissed off because I already upgraded the firmware to 1.30 myself before i brought in the camera. So i questioned the technician, and after asking his supervisor, he said the 'firmware' they are referring to is for the ANALOG portion, NOT the one I downloaded from the web. Can ANYONE please tell me if 'Analog Firmware' exist? or did the guy just make it up?

He also said he did not noticed any front AF problem that i was experience. i did a quick test, and surely enough, the problem s gone. weird...
anyway, i will be trying it out when the sun comes out. wish me luck.

ws--ws
 
Hi Lam,

I got my camera back from Canon Hong Kong. It is the same as your answer that the firmware has been upgraded. They did not mention anything else. Mine is the first batch with serial number of 38xx. Therefore, supposingly, they should check to see whether there should be the hardware fix. I shoot some pictures yesterday night. I do not see any banding as I have done the Canon recommned using the Tone curve two. I will also test shot some in the day time in the coming weekend.

Let us know how is yours.

Benny
after a week and one day, i got my 1D back from Canon HK.
I talked to the technician while the camera was in their service
center.
anyway, here is what they claimed they have 'fixed'
They just put down they have upgraded the firmware, which got me
all pissed off because I already upgraded the firmware to 1.30
myself before i brought in the camera. So i questioned the
technician, and after asking his supervisor, he said the 'firmware'
they are referring to is for the ANALOG portion, NOT the one I
downloaded from the web. Can ANYONE please tell me if 'Analog
Firmware' exist? or did the guy just make it up?
He also said he did not noticed any front AF problem that i was
experience. i did a quick test, and surely enough, the problem s
gone. weird...
anyway, i will be trying it out when the sun comes out. wish me luck.

ws
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ws
 
Did you have AF problem?
mine is 41xx

ws
I got my camera back from Canon Hong Kong. It is the same as your
answer that the firmware has been upgraded. They did not mention
anything else. Mine is the first batch with serial number of 38xx.
Therefore, supposingly, they should check to see whether there
should be the hardware fix. I shoot some pictures yesterday night.
I do not see any banding as I have done the Canon recommned using
the Tone curve two. I will also test shot some in the day time in
the coming weekend.

Let us know how is yours.

Benny
after a week and one day, i got my 1D back from Canon HK.
I talked to the technician while the camera was in their service
center.
anyway, here is what they claimed they have 'fixed'
They just put down they have upgraded the firmware, which got me
all pissed off because I already upgraded the firmware to 1.30
myself before i brought in the camera. So i questioned the
technician, and after asking his supervisor, he said the 'firmware'
they are referring to is for the ANALOG portion, NOT the one I
downloaded from the web. Can ANYONE please tell me if 'Analog
Firmware' exist? or did the guy just make it up?
He also said he did not noticed any front AF problem that i was
experience. i did a quick test, and surely enough, the problem s
gone. weird...
anyway, i will be trying it out when the sun comes out. wish me luck.

ws
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ws
--ws
 
no. Mine does not have the AF problem. Why? You have this problem?
ws
I got my camera back from Canon Hong Kong. It is the same as your
answer that the firmware has been upgraded. They did not mention
anything else. Mine is the first batch with serial number of 38xx.
Therefore, supposingly, they should check to see whether there
should be the hardware fix. I shoot some pictures yesterday night.
I do not see any banding as I have done the Canon recommned using
the Tone curve two. I will also test shot some in the day time in
the coming weekend.

Let us know how is yours.

Benny
after a week and one day, i got my 1D back from Canon HK.
I talked to the technician while the camera was in their service
center.
anyway, here is what they claimed they have 'fixed'
They just put down they have upgraded the firmware, which got me
all pissed off because I already upgraded the firmware to 1.30
myself before i brought in the camera. So i questioned the
technician, and after asking his supervisor, he said the 'firmware'
they are referring to is for the ANALOG portion, NOT the one I
downloaded from the web. Can ANYONE please tell me if 'Analog
Firmware' exist? or did the guy just make it up?
He also said he did not noticed any front AF problem that i was
experience. i did a quick test, and surely enough, the problem s
gone. weird...
anyway, i will be trying it out when the sun comes out. wish me luck.

ws
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ws
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ws
 
It is simpler than that.
Set a single focus point that is the center focal point.
Place camera on tripod.
Select a subject about 6 feet away with nice contrast and
good lighting.
Press the shutter button halfway.
The camera focuses and you get confirmation.
Take a picture.
Result:
The camera (at least mine) focuses at about 5'9"

I can manually focus to the right point and the camera will "unfocus"
the image.

It isn't a technique thing. It is a camera thing.

Steven
I can't speak for the banding issue as the latest pictures I've
seen from several cameras that have had the 1.3 firmware update
exhibit very little banding even at ISO800. As far as the focusing
is concerned, the focusing system on the 1D is SO sophisticated
that one MUST be consistent with the focus point/cluster chosen to
be used and make sure one is NOT delaying release of the shutter
after focus confirmation. Chuck Westfall on the Gailbraith forum
has discussed this. I see no reason to have focus issues if A: you
fully understand how to set and USE the focus points on the 1D and
B: are consistent with your shooting style so as to fully release
shutter upon focus lock with NO hesitation.
 
Well there is such a thing as a field programmable analog array, FPAA, but I doubt that they are using these in the 1D. They are still experimental/difficult to deal with.

If a digicam is partitioned like most mixed mode systems, there is a baseband digital section and an analog section. The analog section crosses over to the digital section via an ADC. Programmable ADCs like the TI TAFE1040 are common. What's programmable is the delay and gain, which in turn likely "solve" the banding issue if adjusted correctly. Here's the TI specs:

http://www-s.ti.com/sc/ds/tafe1040.pdf

Tom
after a week and one day, i got my 1D back from Canon HK.
I talked to the technician while the camera was in their service
center.
anyway, here is what they claimed they have 'fixed'
They just put down they have upgraded the firmware, which got me
all pissed off because I already upgraded the firmware to 1.30
myself before i brought in the camera. So i questioned the
technician, and after asking his supervisor, he said the 'firmware'
they are referring to is for the ANALOG portion, NOT the one I
downloaded from the web. Can ANYONE please tell me if 'Analog
Firmware' exist? or did the guy just make it up?
He also said he did not noticed any front AF problem that i was
experience. i did a quick test, and surely enough, the problem s
gone. weird...
anyway, i will be trying it out when the sun comes out. wish me luck.

ws
--
ws
 
Thanks Tom. The technician i talk to was quite vague. All they said was 'this firmware is for the ananlog section, and we have to open up the camera to upgrade it'.
that's all i've got. maybe you are correct.
i have yet to test the camera...

ws
If a digicam is partitioned like most mixed mode systems, there is
a baseband digital section and an analog section. The analog
section crosses over to the digital section via an ADC.
Programmable ADCs like the TI TAFE1040 are common. What's
programmable is the delay and gain, which in turn likely "solve"
the banding issue if adjusted correctly. Here's the TI specs:

http://www-s.ti.com/sc/ds/tafe1040.pdf

Tom
after a week and one day, i got my 1D back from Canon HK.
I talked to the technician while the camera was in their service
center.
anyway, here is what they claimed they have 'fixed'
They just put down they have upgraded the firmware, which got me
all pissed off because I already upgraded the firmware to 1.30
myself before i brought in the camera. So i questioned the
technician, and after asking his supervisor, he said the 'firmware'
they are referring to is for the ANALOG portion, NOT the one I
downloaded from the web. Can ANYONE please tell me if 'Analog
Firmware' exist? or did the guy just make it up?
He also said he did not noticed any front AF problem that i was
experience. i did a quick test, and surely enough, the problem s
gone. weird...
anyway, i will be trying it out when the sun comes out. wish me luck.

ws
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ws
--ws
 
I'm a 1D user in Hong Kong too....I have a serious banding 1D in my hand now... :-(

I printed some photos today and I can see banding even at ISO 200.....so I'm deciding should I bring it to Canon, or I should use the tone curve....

Do you think I should bring it back to Canon HK? are there any improvement before and after? what about the tone curve solution?

Thanks
 

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