--The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.netPhotography -- just another word for compromise
Please pardon my shortsightedness...but where is the banding you are all talking about? I know what banding is...I'm just having a hard time finding it here. If someone could please draw an arrow or something...that would be great!
Oh wow! I guess I was looking for way more obvious! Nothing like horizontal or vertical banding of a printer! Hmmm...it looks more like someone scanned really nice archival matte paper (you know...the kind with that funky looking finish). The fine lines I see in the background (mainly the roof of the event center) look more like noise to me up close...but the further you step away from the picture, the more you notice the actual lines.Look at the fine vertical lines on the background. They run
horizontally but this shot was taken vertically so that is the
direction they are seen in this shot.
--The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.netPhotography -- just another word for compromise
Well as I said on one of the very first posts in this thread, I was unconvinced I could see any banding from the March 1 shots --- and even so with the disputed b425 could not find anything absolutely convincing. I think David has been looking at so much banding (and music bands) that they are stuck on his monitorSam, Mark and others,
The image below is an example of the worst (minor) banding that I
had with the version 1.2.0 firmware at ISO 800. Very fine banding
is visible in the upper field background in the small jpg as well
as 12 x 18 prints from the RAW files.
I have printed out several more of the ISO 1600 prints from RAW
files made with version 1.3.0 firmware, including the disputed
b425. I need to amend my comments. I can’t find banding in any of
these ISO 1600 images made with the new firmware and printed from
RAW files. There is noise, but it is considerably less than that
created by ISO 400 fine grain film (e.g., Supra 400).
. I would love to see a large print. As I said, these are superb action shots. Mark--The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.netPhotography -- just another word for compromise
--ValliestoSam, Mark and others,
The image below is an example of the worst (minor) banding that I
had with the version 1.2.0 firmware at ISO 800. Very fine banding
is visible in the upper field background in the small jpg as well
as 12 x 18 prints from the RAW files.
I have printed out several more of the ISO 1600 prints from RAW
files made with version 1.3.0 firmware, including the disputed
b425. I need to amend my comments. I can’t find banding in any of
these ISO 1600 images made with the new firmware and printed from
RAW files. There is noise, but it is considerably less than that
created by ISO 400 fine grain film (e.g., Supra 400).
I have had several of my EOS-1D images shot at ISO 400 with the
version 1.2.0 software printed as 20 x 30 inch display prints.
They looked great. I would not be the least bit hesitant to
enlarge the ISO 1600 gymnastic images from RAW files to 20 x 30
inch prints without any noise reduction whatsoever.
--
William Castleman
http://www.wlcastleman.com
It's harder for me to tell if it's banding, or the pattern of the roof.Look at the fine vertical lines on the background. They run
horizontally but this shot was taken vertically so that is the
direction they are seen in this shot.
Fantastic! What do you use to print the 20x30?
How about the curtains in fritzinger/b298.jpg? They are full of noise although not extreme noise and there are certainly horizonal bands running through them. There is one fairly bright band near the top of the curtains, another dimmer one half way down them and another still dimmer one three fourths of the way down the curtains. Many other images have no banding I can see at all so that's great.
One technique I've been using that helps make the banding visible to me is to hold my latest bank statement against the monitor next to the image I'm examlining. As I look for banding, I simultaneously imagine my bank account with five thousand fewer dollars in it. This will usually cause the banding to leap off the screen.music bands) that they are stuck on his monitor
to see a large print.
--The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.netPhotography -- just another word for compromise
When I look at b425, noise is overwhelmed by jpeg artifacts. There may or may not be banding in there somewhere, but this web version is too stepped-on to be able to tell.Well as I said on one of the very first posts in this thread, I was
unconvinced I could see any banding from the March 1 shots --- and
even so with the disputed b425 could not find anything absolutely
convincing. I think David has been looking at so much banding (and
music bands) that they are stuck on his monitor
to see a large print. As I said, these are superb action shots.
Mark
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The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise
