Yes it is my nick name
quadcells
quadcells
--quadcellsI thought you were giving a PC parameter or something.
Sorry.
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Ulysses
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kudbegud
Senior Member
hp 6645c
intel celeron
566mhz
sdram 192mb
15gb slower speed i assume
photobrush
3 seconds
--you pay for what you get, but you don't always get what you paid for. F707,TCON-14B,ETX-90 http://www.pbase.com/kudbegud/galleries
Loren Charif
Senior Member
OOPS...forgot to reboot...
Updated Results:
1st start pf PSP 10 seconds
subsequent starts 2 seconds
Loren
Updated Results:
1st start pf PSP 10 seconds
subsequent starts 2 seconds
Loren
Roy Ehman
Well-known member
Home brew
AMD
1 Gig
380 PC133
7200 30 gig
Photoshop 6
15 sec (huge number of fonts)
AMD
1 Gig
380 PC133
7200 30 gig
Photoshop 6
15 sec (huge number of fonts)
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MICROBYTE
Intel
P3 550
512m
30gb 7200
PS6.0.1
--Kafrifelle (Yves P.)No BFS, No hassle but strong vignetting on left http://www.pbase.com/kafrifelle/my_sony_dsc-f707
Mike Fitzgerald
Veteran Member
Yeah ... I've toyed with upgrading it but I keep coming back to the notion that that would be a bit of a luxury. The indecision hit hardest when RAM pricing bottomed a few months ago and I had to decide whether it was about time to go Athlon/AMD760 and that expenditure on more SDRAM might be a waste. In the end I kept my horns in and just upped it from 256 to 640, and I'm now satisfied that was the right decision. The CPU and board are the least of my concerns/bottlenecks. Stable and predictable. Nice to have a known quantity.
I have a rule (sort of) that I need to see a real world speed increase of 3x or better at sensible $ outlay before I can justify a major upgrade. Things are undeniably at that point now, but not with 100% predictability. Some of the figures coming up in this thread with hot hardware are suitably impressive, but there are plenty of others (equally hot) that raise big question marks and leave me quite comfortable with my current system. Much the same thing came up in the long thread related to ideal Photoshop hardware a few months ago.
Through necessity. A Mac "upbringing", and I'd love to update it (Quadra 840AV — flagship and last 68xxx in late 1993) but with work directions as they've been over the last few years that would be a luxury only.That you're a PC head, first of all.)
They seem to have a good reputation for dependable quality/stability ahead of cutting edge entrepreneurial stuff at every new release (similar philosophy to Matrox perhaps); e.g. they dragged their feet a bit, I feel when ATA66 started to come in. I need to do something about storage soon and I'm even thinking about a new controller card for the existing setup.
Yep. I'm finding that with 640 MB of RAM PS (5.5) is very easy to live with. I though about going to 768 (max for the MoBo), but I would have had to toss the current lower density 256 to make room for it and that seemed a bit of a waste. If RAM gets down to the dirt cheap level again I might do it yet. This amount is quite pointless with Win98SE which I run on occasions, and it always chokes sooner or later. I'm finding Win 2k the best thing MS has done in years.
VERY crunched. I have 4 partitions on each drive and that has worked extremely well for me until space has become tight. One of my recent problems has come about after making a few half-hearted attempts to consolidate audio stuff on old cassettes (especially) and LPs. There's just not enough space to keep work files of this sort for any length of time, and now that I'm running out of room it's become a real juggle: jamming all the back-burner stuff into every nook and cranny to give the main partitions some swingin' room
RAID 10 is starting to look more significant now to even the smaller user — the size of routine backup requirements these days is beginning to make even automated CD-R solutions rather arduous (I'm very happy with Retrospect Express for this btw).
Which OS are you using? I haven't picked up your own current stats — are they buried somewhere in this thread?
I think probably a combination of a moderately quick processor, a reliable motherboard that is also known as a good performer, Win 2k and frequent defragging. Also extensive partitioning that's turned out to have been reasoably well chosen it seems. I'm still uncertain about the best way to tackle this latter issue, however, and I'm sure what I've done so far is less than ideal. The main problem (and it's continuing to grow) is the software that insists on being very snugly in bed with the OS and on its partition, and still installs a big chunk of itself there regardless of what you nominate. Significant apps here include Norton, Winfax and of course IE. User files get further integrated this way with Win 2k through its predisposition towards segregated personal storage for multiple users. Thinks: I've really gotta stop using the desktop for parking temporary files!
Cheers,
Mike
cyberslave
Well-known member
Ulysses,
Interesting thread. My system:
Homebuilt
ECS K7VZA m/b
AMD Athlon 1.1GHz
512Mb PC133 SDRAM
40G 5400 h/d
PSE takes 15 sec from startup/2 sec after that
(been a while since I defrag'd, though...
Fact I once had to prove in coursework for an advanced system administration course I took several years back:
If we put memory, network and disk access times in relative speeds we can
better understand (rather than nanoseconds, microseconds, milliseconds, etc.), then:
If a memory access took 80 seconds,
a network access would take 2 weeks,
a disk access would take 347 days!
I'm now a manager of a bunch of system administrators, data managers and
software engineers and so I haven't investigated whether or not these numbers still hold true today, but these figures always stayed with me...
cyberslave
Interesting thread. My system:
Homebuilt
ECS K7VZA m/b
AMD Athlon 1.1GHz
512Mb PC133 SDRAM
40G 5400 h/d
PSE takes 15 sec from startup/2 sec after that
(been a while since I defrag'd, though...
Fact I once had to prove in coursework for an advanced system administration course I took several years back:
If we put memory, network and disk access times in relative speeds we can
better understand (rather than nanoseconds, microseconds, milliseconds, etc.), then:
If a memory access took 80 seconds,
a network access would take 2 weeks,
a disk access would take 347 days!
I'm now a manager of a bunch of system administrators, data managers and
software engineers and so I haven't investigated whether or not these numbers still hold true today, but these figures always stayed with me...
cyberslave
Mike Fitzgerald
Veteran Member
Ulysses —
I notice you didn't appear in that thread so you might like to check it out (and everyone else of course).
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1018&message=1301469
Mike
I notice you didn't appear in that thread so you might like to check it out (and everyone else of course).
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1018&message=1301469
Mike
Mike Fitzgerald
Veteran Member
Sorry, that was a bit egocentric of me I meant to take you to the top of it:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1018&message=1283413
I meant to take you to the top of it: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1018&message=1283413
Gordon Berg
Forum Enthusiast
The homebrew software is just that... it's a suite of about a hundred and fifty functions that I wrote - in C. I stayed logged online when I started it up and I hadn't run the program for over a week so it wasn't in cache. The secret is that it's written in C not C++ and consequently it doesn't use MS Foundation Library nor anything else from MS except a few very elementary system functions. Normally I tell it to load some photos after it loads, which can make it take a couple of seconds to start up but for this test I just loaded the software as that seemed to be what was wanted.
But it's that 1/5th second that's killing me here. You've got to be
kidding on that one. Is that with a fresh system restart, all the
cache emptied, etc.? That would put you way ahead of the P4 and Mac
systems.
BTW, what is "homebrew"?
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Ulysses
Jade Strong
Leading Member
1) Home built
2) AMD
3) Athlon XP 1700+
4) 256MB DDRAM
5) 60G 7200 RPM
6) Photoshop
7) 10 seconds to start up image editor.
JS
--JS http://www.pbase.com/jadestrong/welcome
2) AMD
3) Athlon XP 1700+
4) 256MB DDRAM
5) 60G 7200 RPM
6) Photoshop
7) 10 seconds to start up image editor.
JS
--JS http://www.pbase.com/jadestrong/welcome
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Ulysses
Guest
Thanks for the very interesting look at your system and methodology. Very interesting indeed.
Oh, I've got all kinds of goodies installed, image editors, little apps, etc. I keep it relatively clean. But there is only so much you can do.
So about this time next week, I should be a lot happier around the house. At least, that's what my wife says.
-- Ulysses
RAID is something that I'm definitely going to take a look at. Probably won't implement it for quite some time, but I'd like to learn more for now.
That's because my current system is PITIFUL!! I don't want to talk about it. One word: Glacial. Remember that conversation we had a while back about running multiple monitors, and how I ought to get out of 800x600 resolution (yes, I did do so...)? OK. Now, apply that same principle to my entire PC system, and you've about got the picture.
Oh, I've got all kinds of goodies installed, image editors, little apps, etc. I keep it relatively clean. But there is only so much you can do.
So about this time next week, I should be a lot happier around the house. At least, that's what my wife says.
-- Ulysses
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Ulysses
Guest
That's interesting. It never takes just 2 seconds for me, whether it has been cached or not. Maybe I need to knock out some fonts. I still don't know that that would do the trick.-- Ulysses
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Ulysses
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Greg Biggs63409
Senior Member
Compaq Presario 5000
Intel
P3 700 MHz
SD100 512MB
2 20GB Hard Drives at 7200rpm
Photoshop 5.0 LE
Opened in 3 seconds
Intel
P3 700 MHz
SD100 512MB
2 20GB Hard Drives at 7200rpm
Photoshop 5.0 LE
Opened in 3 seconds
--PCI
hud
Senior Member
ok, finally got around to giving mine...
-hud
no brand, so that I could select exactly what components I wanted in my machine. (In other words, I built it)
AMD Athlon Thunderbird
900 MHz (200 MHZ frontside bus)
640MB Crucial SDRAM, CAS 2
IBM Deskstar 45GB ATA-100 7200RPM
Photoshop Elements
11 seconds on first launch (and 4 seconds on subsequent lauches)
-hud
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