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I have had the my 5D for almost 1 year, and before that I had a 20D for about 1 year.

When I traded up to the 5D, I have ended with a 24-105mm f4 IS L lens + a 70-200mm f4 IS L lens.

I have found during the past 2 years that my clours were not as rich as I would have liked them to be.

I have borrowed a friend's D200 and have been using it for a little while.

I like the colours a bit better but it really has been only a few weeks with the new Nikon & I am still getting used to it.

I do have a few people waiting for my 5D with all my equipment (in addition to the 2 lenses, I have a 580 flash and grip) but I assume that they will not wait too much longer.

I am assuming that there are many people here in this forum who have the D200 and I think that there may be a few who read this who have the 5D and love to bash Canon.

The bottom line:

What am I giving up if I were to sell my Canon system and what would I gain if I change to the Nikon system?

I am not sold on a ff camera as being the best but I am not sure that if I were to change, should I change to the D200 or is there another Nikon camera that anyone can suggest (with reasons) to buy.

I am shooting about 5,000 pictures every summer at the summer camp and I am now starting to shoot landscapes & just love to take pictures of anything that comes up, including my 2 grandchildren.

Any comments will be very much appreciated.

Stephen
 
Could it be that you haven't mastered your 5d because, to be honnest, a Canon 5D is pretty much as good as it gets to find good colors and rich images.

Could it be because your Friend's D200 is well adjusted to start with ?

I wouldn't trade your setting for a D200 unless you have a problem with the ergonomy of the Canon or the camera was to be a bad one ...

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mrpevets said:
I have had the my 5D for almost 1 year, and before that I had a 20D
for about 1 year.

When I traded up to the 5D, I have ended with a 24-105mm f4 IS L
lens + a 70-200mm f4 IS L lens.

I have found during the past 2 years that my clours were not as
rich as I would have liked them to be.

I have borrowed a friend's D200 and have been using it for a little
while.

I like the colours a bit better but it really has been only a few
weeks with the new Nikon & I am still getting used to it.

I do have a few people waiting for my 5D with all my equipment (in
addition to the 2 lenses, I have a 580 flash and grip) but I assume
that they will not wait too much longer.

I am assuming that there are many people here in this forum who
have the D200 and I think that there may be a few who read this who
have the 5D and love to bash Canon.

The bottom line:

What am I giving up if I were to sell my Canon system and what
would I gain if I change to the Nikon system?

I am not sold on a ff camera as being the best but I am not sure
that if I were to change, should I change to the D200 or is there
another Nikon camera that anyone can suggest (with reasons) to buy.

I am shooting about 5,000 pictures every summer at the summer camp
and I am now starting to shoot landscapes & just love to take
pictures of anything that comes up, including my 2 grandchildren.

Any comments will be very much appreciated.

Stephen
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mrpevets said:
What am I giving up if I were to sell my Canon system and what
would I gain if I change to the Nikon system?
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I'm afraid that I don't understand your position, Stephen. If you don't have specific reasons as to why you would want to change from the 5d, then my advice would be to stay with it. By all accounts, it is a fine camera, capable of doing what you said you wanted to do.

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First off welcome to DP Review!

The better images I have seen from the Canon 5D have been very nice so I'm not too sure what you are unhappy with. Could the color problem you refer to be a post processing issue?
 
if you can master that, you can master any camera out there ...

I mean, Man, I get 3/4's done on that damn thing, and I bump it, and the whole shot is washed away...

fcuking $hit, my forearms get soo dang-nabit tired turnin' the dials it's like jeesh ... people in the forum start saying ...

"Hey look, with forearms like that it looks like Popeye has been punchin' the clown again!"

and who needs that from these guys ?

Whats a girl to do ?

If your serious, welcome aboard, pull up a chair, and have a pint on us, but the 5D is a fine camera...
 
Kerry Pierce said:
I'm afraid that I don't understand your position, Stephen. If you
don't have specific reasons as to why you would want to change from
the 5d, then my advice would be to stay with it. By all accounts,
it is a fine camera, capable of doing what you said you wanted to
do.
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The 5D actually seems like a wonderful camera, as far as image quality goes. I'm about to part ways with Olympus after nearly 30 years of using their SLRs (and DSLRs since the E-1). I've really been on the fence between a 5D and a D200.

To me, and I'm not trying to step on anyone's toes in either camp, the 5D seems to produce lovely images and has a nice, big viewfinder. What I don't care for is the way it handles when you shoot with it. The D200 seems much more solid, as well as feeling very Nikon-ishly (can I use that as a word?) twitchy and ready-to-go all the time. I have a hard time reacting faster than a D200. I'm never waiting on it.

One of the things that's been endlessly annoying about my E-1 is that I spend a lot of time waiting for it. I'll press the shutter release and it will decide to focus hunt at the last minute or there will be an almost imperceptible (but enough to blow the shot) lag for some reason. The 5D feels like that sometimes. Just a little sluggish somehow. A week ago I'd made up my mind to go ahead and buy one and then I spent an afternoon with one and now I'm back to thinking the D200 is less likely to annoy me.

I've decided that sometime next week I'm going to call up KEH and buy a new camera. Barring another bout of indecisionitis (hard to commit to a new company after decades of familiarity), I'm pretty sure I'm going with Nikon. I owned Canon manual focus stuff for a while in the mid-70's. The only thing I've ever owned with a Nikon logo on it was a pair of binoculars that an acquaintance of mine left at a Grateful Dead concert at Madison Square Garden in '90. ;-)
 
I have them both, really the D200 is better besides the sensor. But your issues for change is the sensor... which I think is the only reason not to change from Canon to Nikon. If your motivation was ergonomics then I would say change, but the canon colors pop more and it retains more detail. (You can get these in photoshop with the nikon... just not the detail)

Get a new lens, shoot some more with canon.
mrpevets said:
I have had the my 5D for almost 1 year, and before that I had a 20D
for about 1 year.

When I traded up to the 5D, I have ended with a 24-105mm f4 IS L
lens + a 70-200mm f4 IS L lens.

I have found during the past 2 years that my clours were not as
rich as I would have liked them to be.

I have borrowed a friend's D200 and have been using it for a little
while.

I like the colours a bit better but it really has been only a few
weeks with the new Nikon & I am still getting used to it.

I do have a few people waiting for my 5D with all my equipment (in
addition to the 2 lenses, I have a 580 flash and grip) but I assume
that they will not wait too much longer.

I am assuming that there are many people here in this forum who
have the D200 and I think that there may be a few who read this who
have the 5D and love to bash Canon.

The bottom line:

What am I giving up if I were to sell my Canon system and what
would I gain if I change to the Nikon system?

I am not sold on a ff camera as being the best but I am not sure
that if I were to change, should I change to the D200 or is there
another Nikon camera that anyone can suggest (with reasons) to buy.

I am shooting about 5,000 pictures every summer at the summer camp
and I am now starting to shoot landscapes & just love to take
pictures of anything that comes up, including my 2 grandchildren.

Any comments will be very much appreciated.

Stephen
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mrpevets said:
I have had the my 5D for almost 1 year, and before that I had a 20D
for about 1 year.

When I traded up to the 5D, I have ended with a 24-105mm f4 IS L
lens + a 70-200mm f4 IS L lens.

I have found during the past 2 years that my clours were not as
rich as I would have liked them to be.

I have borrowed a friend's D200 and have been using it for a little
while.

I like the colours a bit better but it really has been only a few
weeks with the new Nikon & I am still getting used to it.

I do have a few people waiting for my 5D with all my equipment (in
addition to the 2 lenses, I have a 580 flash and grip) but I assume
that they will not wait too much longer.

I am assuming that there are many people here in this forum who
have the D200 and I think that there may be a few who read this who
have the 5D and love to bash Canon.

The bottom line:

What am I giving up if I were to sell my Canon system and what
would I gain if I change to the Nikon system?

I am not sold on a ff camera as being the best but I am not sure
that if I were to change, should I change to the D200 or is there
another Nikon camera that anyone can suggest (with reasons) to buy.

I am shooting about 5,000 pictures every summer at the summer camp
and I am now starting to shoot landscapes & just love to take
pictures of anything that comes up, including my 2 grandchildren.

Any comments will be very much appreciated.

Stephen
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Yes, he posted the opposite on the Canon forum, "Goodbye D-200, hello 5D". Only two posts on his profile!
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With the 5D you get low noise at high ISO.
With the D200 you get the 1.5x "crop" factor for
your telephoto/macro lenses.

I have both. Colors are similar.

I mostly use the Nikon because of the DX
tele effect.

maljo
 
"I have found during the past 2 years that my clours were not as rich as I would have liked them to be."

You give no good reason to change. The colours can be made 'richer' by increasing the saturation in post processing if you like that sort of thing. Personally I like a reasonably natural look, but others disagree. And maybe your RAW converter is not so good?
 
so you're giving up on a pretty good camera for one that's also pretty good?

Keep what you have, read the manual, and get that thing adjusted to where you like it. Also shoot raw if you need to.

The 5D is a good camera, and there are a lot of pros out there who take some awesome stuff with it. It should do what you want, but it will take some adjustments.

No I'm not for canon, or anti nikon, I'm just anti any idiot who wants to sell his equipment because he can't figure out how to set something up!

Also, please note people don't buy a $4000 camera and not know about every feature on that camera, and not know how to adjust it to their means. It's pro equipment, it's meant to be used by people who know what they want and how to get it. It's not meant for someone to set it on "auto" and have at it.

In that case you may as well get a point and shoot or a D50 like mine (or cannon rebel).

In closing, a D200 won't do anything for you. It will still have a manual and it will still look bad if you don't set anything up. You're only going to waste more money and time and be back to where you're at now.

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I agree with Yyes P on this and I say stick with the Canon 5d, read the manual and adjust the picture styles for the sort of images you are going to take, e.g., portrait, landscape, etc.

As this is posted on 1/4/07 I think we may have to call you mr fool (for trading a great camera in 5d FF for a DX/crop camera like D200, D80,etc) and I've got a big stitch in my stomach from the laughter in your post.
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