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This is a rather unique bird (a Leusistic Cardinal) that was at my feeder last week and my wife took some photos thru a frozen window.

I can clear the photos up but then I can not get rid of the noise......that results from some severe PP.

I do not ever bother with noise but in these photos I find it necessary to remove it to get a nice photo.

So I wonder if someone that works with a NR program a lot would have a go at these.

The originals can be found and downloaded here
http://imageevent.com/grc6/fz30/forhelp?p=1&n=1&m=18&c=4&l=0&w=2&s=0&z=3





If anyone takes the time to do this you can Email me the results.
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Gene
From Western PA.

Panasonic FZ 20 and FZ30
D50 and lenses.

http://imageevent.com/grc6



Just trying to learn and it's slow going!
 
My take:



If you like it, email me and I'll send you high-res original (2800 pixels wide).
 
Thanks robiro....I did send you an Email.......mine should be in the profile if anyone else cares to try.
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Gene
From Western PA.

Panasonic FZ 20 and FZ30
D50 and lenses.

http://imageevent.com/grc6



Just trying to learn and it's slow going!
 
Anyway, two edited originals should be in your e-mailbox as we speak. The 2nd one was nearly beyond repair.
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EffZeeOneVeeTwo, EffZeeThirty, Tizzy (who captured the Eagle)
 
Thanks so much to John ,Robiro, Joeseph and Stargate.......I am working with your photos .....I will get something I hope.......anyone else... feel free to send them on.

As I said this type of shot is the only time I really find the noise to be a pain....
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Gene
From Western PA.

Panasonic FZ 20 and FZ30
D50 and lenses.

http://imageevent.com/grc6



Just trying to learn and it's slow going!
 
I can get about this far and I just believe if I handled the NR a little better I would have a much better result.



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Gene
From Western PA.

Panasonic FZ 20 and FZ30
D50 and lenses.

http://imageevent.com/grc6



Just trying to learn and it's slow going!
 
it's not so much the noise that is annoying, it's the NR (as has been said many times) :)

this is why I try to shoot raw whenever I might run into this kind of problem... however, with birds... much more difficult!
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Gene, have you posted a thread on the retouching forum here?

The friend that got me hooked on the forums here has learned some amazing techniques there. If they can't save the picture, it's not likely that anything else can be done.
 
I will go to the retouching forum but I figured there are many here that are quite good with NR.....but thanks for the tip.
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Gene
From Western PA.

Panasonic FZ 20 and FZ30
D50 and lenses.

http://imageevent.com/grc6



Just trying to learn and it's slow going!
 
I took on the hard one. You can see I cloned out some of the reflection on the second one. Jpg compression along the way didn't help. Small 100% size also created limitations....what to speak of my skill level. Anyway, I had fun messing with this.

Process... Saved as-is in PhotoImpact. Opened with Picasa2. Full Shawdow effect, small amt of saturation, small amount of glow. Re-opened with PhotoImpact. Used an overall exposure preset. Saved. Opened in Noiseware. Used default removal setting. Back to PhotoImpact. Something like this. I like to do all this on the fast side.





 
I've seen many cardinals but is there any difference besides the color in the Leusistic variety, compared to the regular ones?
 
You are asking the wrong fellow ....I had one of these here 4 years ago and when I was trying to find some info on the bird, someone from a university and the audoboun society near here, got in contact and asked for photos and promised to stop by and explain this to me but after they got the photos I never heard from them again.
I hope this old gal will return for a day or so.
Midwest said:
I've seen many cardinals but is there any difference besides the
color in the Leusistic variety, compared to the regular ones?
Click to expand...
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Gene
From Western PA.

Panasonic FZ 20 and FZ30
D50 and lenses.

http://imageevent.com/grc6



Just trying to learn and it's slow going!
 
I actually think the first one is the hard one because the subject is so much darker than the surrounding area. As shadow areas, the subjects have low contrast and the most noise in the image.

Although I'm certainly no expert, and whether you like the final result depends very much on individual taste, I gave it a go as well.

I cropped the first one to 16:9 because the two birds formed a very horizontal composition, and to crop out the distracting blurring in the lower right hand corner.

I then used Noise Ninja to remove only colour noise on the birds and both colour noise and luminance noise in the rest of the photo. Although this leaves the birds with a little more luminance noise, it at least retains the fine feather structure.

I then also enhanced the fine contrast on the birds themselves, in an attempt to overcome the lack of definition that subjects inevitable have in shadow areas.

Hopefully the photo "P1210297F bjorn.jpg" has arrived in your email.

Kind Regards,

Björn

galleries: http://www.pbase.com/viztyger

 
Here is a URL that explains the Leucistic appearance in birds. Basically the feather colors are lighter than normal. But they are just like their 'normal' counterparts in every other way.

I have never seen a cardinal like that before but I have a House Sparrow that comes to the feeder every spring with his white 'hat' on.

http://www.birds.cornell.edu/AllAboutBirds/attracting/challenges/strange_birds

Bobbie414
 
nice find....here is a leucistic robin I found a while back...actually found 2 different one's



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What a nice photo Dave........I am hoping for another try, as the day it was here the temp dropped to well below Zero for a few days , but now we are about back to 32 degrees
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Gene
From Western PA.

Panasonic FZ 20 and FZ30
D50 and lenses.

http://imageevent.com/grc6



Just trying to learn and it's slow going!
 
This was a tough one, Gene. I think my rendition would make an Ok 8 X 10:



Original is here:

http://katerk.smugmug.com/photos/128741567-O.jpg

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