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That's cheating. There's nobody on here quite like Daniella. Yes she worked just fine with a Rebel D for a long time. I think she is currently using an XT.
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30D vs 5D For a beginner
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I'm willing to bet some of you posting don't even own a 5D and are giving advice over the two. I own a Rebel Xti a 20D and a 5D. The 5D is miles ahead in image quality at all ISOs over the 20D or Xti. The 5D really shines in portraits and delivers image quality that rivals the 1dsmk2.
Sure if all you do is shoot telephoto length it makes a lot more sence to buy a 1.6x cropped camera.
Sure if all you do is shoot telephoto length it makes a lot more sence to buy a 1.6x cropped camera.
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OK, here's my list:
D30
D60
10D
Rebel D
Rebel XT
5D
I still own the D60 and the 5D. The D30, relatively, was the best of the lot, with the D60 not far behind, now that is in regards to the state of the industry at their point in time. The 10D was a clumbsy, heavy beast that exposed somewhat inconsistently especially with flash. To me the Rebel D was revolutionary, in spite of folks considering it a dumb down 10D. I really liked it better than my 10D and my D30 which I had all three at the same time. It was lighter, a little smaller, and did everything I needed it to do as a carry along camera. The Rebel XT came out and I bought it because it was the same size as my Pentax cameras, but never gave me the consistency of focus and exposure accuracy my Pentax cameras have, so I sold it. I bought the 5D this fall and currently have it along with my D60.
When you suggest the 5D is a far better camera than the others, you really need to do some side by sides with them. Actually at low ISO especially with long lenses and the slightly increased resolution of the D60, I find I get a little better results. I am going to get a Rebel XTi this spring to use my long lenses with for wild life. It will be vastly superior to the 5D for that use because of the nearly double resolution over it.
It is always easy to rationalize dollars spent. I think the 5D is a lovely camera. High ISO shooting is second to none. Full frame allows me to utilize wide angle without going to new extremely expensive super wide zooms. A 20-35 wide zoom gives you wonderful coverage. My old 28-135 IS zoom is a wonderful lens on the 5D.
I agree with you that you need to have owned and used these various cameras to really have a handle on them. As you can see, I have and I can tell you, in my experience with much of what I do with a camera, a small crop camera is really superior. Image quality is definitely the equal up through ISO 800 and beyond with the 30D probably. The crop is definitely an advantage for wildlife photography. The much smaller size of even the 30D but especially the XT makes them much more attractive for a take along camera.
No problem making oneself believe his $3000 were well spent on the 5D, but I wager folks who spend $700 on an XT can assume the same.
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D30
D60
10D
Rebel D
Rebel XT
5D
I still own the D60 and the 5D. The D30, relatively, was the best of the lot, with the D60 not far behind, now that is in regards to the state of the industry at their point in time. The 10D was a clumbsy, heavy beast that exposed somewhat inconsistently especially with flash. To me the Rebel D was revolutionary, in spite of folks considering it a dumb down 10D. I really liked it better than my 10D and my D30 which I had all three at the same time. It was lighter, a little smaller, and did everything I needed it to do as a carry along camera. The Rebel XT came out and I bought it because it was the same size as my Pentax cameras, but never gave me the consistency of focus and exposure accuracy my Pentax cameras have, so I sold it. I bought the 5D this fall and currently have it along with my D60.
When you suggest the 5D is a far better camera than the others, you really need to do some side by sides with them. Actually at low ISO especially with long lenses and the slightly increased resolution of the D60, I find I get a little better results. I am going to get a Rebel XTi this spring to use my long lenses with for wild life. It will be vastly superior to the 5D for that use because of the nearly double resolution over it.
It is always easy to rationalize dollars spent. I think the 5D is a lovely camera. High ISO shooting is second to none. Full frame allows me to utilize wide angle without going to new extremely expensive super wide zooms. A 20-35 wide zoom gives you wonderful coverage. My old 28-135 IS zoom is a wonderful lens on the 5D.
I agree with you that you need to have owned and used these various cameras to really have a handle on them. As you can see, I have and I can tell you, in my experience with much of what I do with a camera, a small crop camera is really superior. Image quality is definitely the equal up through ISO 800 and beyond with the 30D probably. The crop is definitely an advantage for wildlife photography. The much smaller size of even the 30D but especially the XT makes them much more attractive for a take along camera.
No problem making oneself believe his $3000 were well spent on the 5D, but I wager folks who spend $700 on an XT can assume the same.
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i disagree with many people here suggesting you start out with a rebel. while it is a great camera, if what you want is a camera to learn on and grow into, i think the controls on the 30 or 5 are better for learning photography, frankly. and there is no real virtue to 'starting at the bottom'--i think it is more important to start at the beginning, with the basics. the 30d and 5d are perfect for that.
i had a 20d, now a 5d. they are both excellent cameras, and they both have some shortcomings (mainly in terms of auto metering and some ergos). but you can make superb prints as large as you want to go from either of them. that should not be a factor in your decision. 8 is enough, to coin a phrase.
there are real differences in image quality, mainly for low light work. the viewfinder is better on the 5 (but the 30 is good too). IF you can afford it, and IF you don't need 5fps, and IF you don't care about the onboard flash, then get the 5d. but, it sounds like you can't afford it.
the expense isn't just the camera, or even the camera and lenses. the 5d creates huge files, which entails extra costs in cf media, in hard drive storage and backup, and computing power for practical manipulation. you need to factor all of this into your decision. if you decide on the 30d, i'd get the 17-55/2.8 (it is simply the best combination available, and will cover nearly all your needs) and a 50/1.4 for portraits and very low light work. that's it: you could do a whole lifetime of great work with nothing else, and never feel like your glass was holding you back. (most people seem to want long tele lenses for some reason. you can always add that as necessary.)
on the other hand, to get something similar on the 5d, you'd need to get the 24-70/2.8 (larger, heavier, no is) and the 85/1.8 to start (the 24-105 covers an attractive range, but it is a slower lens, limiting your ability both to lock focus in low light and to use the most accurate focussing sensors in the 5d--which you want to use, don't you?), to say nothing of an external flash. your total cost is considerably more, and you really will want to only purchase excellent (ie expensive) lenses to make the most of the 5d sensor.
there is one factor that imo would tip decisively towards the 5d, which is if you want to work with fast wide primes. that was a major reason i went with the 5d. these of course are very expensive lenses (which offer unique capabilities paired to the 5d).
to get the most out of either camera you will want to use manual exposure much of the time, so it's a good thing you are looking to invest a lot of time into this stuff.
so imo it comes to money. if you are willing to spend $5000+ on the camera and have plenty of computing power and storage, then the 5d is a great camera. if you would rather spend around $3000, OR you really like the idea of built in flash, OR you feel the need for 5fps (useful for kids bike and skate tricks, or football, etc), then the 30d is a better choice.
neither one is a compromise, and both are excellent cameras to learn on--they reward advances in your technique and skill (and punish mistakes and deficiencies) without setting artificial limits. you can make beautiful large prints from either one (i routinely go to 13x19, sometimes more); any problems you have in that regard would more likely be attributable to technique or possibly to glass, not to sensor and certainly not megapixels.
enjoy your new camera--the nice thing about this is that either one is a good choice. you can't really go wrong.
i had a 20d, now a 5d. they are both excellent cameras, and they both have some shortcomings (mainly in terms of auto metering and some ergos). but you can make superb prints as large as you want to go from either of them. that should not be a factor in your decision. 8 is enough, to coin a phrase.
there are real differences in image quality, mainly for low light work. the viewfinder is better on the 5 (but the 30 is good too). IF you can afford it, and IF you don't need 5fps, and IF you don't care about the onboard flash, then get the 5d. but, it sounds like you can't afford it.
the expense isn't just the camera, or even the camera and lenses. the 5d creates huge files, which entails extra costs in cf media, in hard drive storage and backup, and computing power for practical manipulation. you need to factor all of this into your decision. if you decide on the 30d, i'd get the 17-55/2.8 (it is simply the best combination available, and will cover nearly all your needs) and a 50/1.4 for portraits and very low light work. that's it: you could do a whole lifetime of great work with nothing else, and never feel like your glass was holding you back. (most people seem to want long tele lenses for some reason. you can always add that as necessary.)
on the other hand, to get something similar on the 5d, you'd need to get the 24-70/2.8 (larger, heavier, no is) and the 85/1.8 to start (the 24-105 covers an attractive range, but it is a slower lens, limiting your ability both to lock focus in low light and to use the most accurate focussing sensors in the 5d--which you want to use, don't you?), to say nothing of an external flash. your total cost is considerably more, and you really will want to only purchase excellent (ie expensive) lenses to make the most of the 5d sensor.
there is one factor that imo would tip decisively towards the 5d, which is if you want to work with fast wide primes. that was a major reason i went with the 5d. these of course are very expensive lenses (which offer unique capabilities paired to the 5d).
to get the most out of either camera you will want to use manual exposure much of the time, so it's a good thing you are looking to invest a lot of time into this stuff.
so imo it comes to money. if you are willing to spend $5000+ on the camera and have plenty of computing power and storage, then the 5d is a great camera. if you would rather spend around $3000, OR you really like the idea of built in flash, OR you feel the need for 5fps (useful for kids bike and skate tricks, or football, etc), then the 30d is a better choice.
neither one is a compromise, and both are excellent cameras to learn on--they reward advances in your technique and skill (and punish mistakes and deficiencies) without setting artificial limits. you can make beautiful large prints from either one (i routinely go to 13x19, sometimes more); any problems you have in that regard would more likely be attributable to technique or possibly to glass, not to sensor and certainly not megapixels.
enjoy your new camera--the nice thing about this is that either one is a good choice. you can't really go wrong.
What are your expectations?
The DSLRs require a lot of post-processing although they make decent out of camera pictures.
People buy DSLRs generally have three requirements.
1. Being able to capture fast moving objects (ex. sports)
2. Being able to capture subjects in dim and poorly lit indoor areas without using a flash.
3. Having access to a large number of quality lenses ($$$$$).
If your requirement is just to capture the family moments around the house or vacations, any current P&S digicam will do the job with much lower cost. The plus side for a P&S is truly ready to print pictures out of camera.
A DSLR requires more user knowledge and sometimes demands the understanding of the photography principles to obtain decent results. It also demands the photographer to learn digital dark room techniques.
If your budget permits and you are determined to learn digital photography with a DSLR, the 5D is a great tool. Don't forget to factor in the cost of the lenses that you will be purchasing. A fine camera body without the fine lenses are just an electronic recording box.
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The DSLRs require a lot of post-processing although they make decent out of camera pictures.
People buy DSLRs generally have three requirements.
1. Being able to capture fast moving objects (ex. sports)
2. Being able to capture subjects in dim and poorly lit indoor areas without using a flash.
3. Having access to a large number of quality lenses ($$$$$).
If your requirement is just to capture the family moments around the house or vacations, any current P&S digicam will do the job with much lower cost. The plus side for a P&S is truly ready to print pictures out of camera.
A DSLR requires more user knowledge and sometimes demands the understanding of the photography principles to obtain decent results. It also demands the photographer to learn digital dark room techniques.
If your budget permits and you are determined to learn digital photography with a DSLR, the 5D is a great tool. Don't forget to factor in the cost of the lenses that you will be purchasing. A fine camera body without the fine lenses are just an electronic recording box.
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Dave Largent
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What are the details on this? There are hidden sensors that
only function with a 2.8 or faster lens?
Yes. However, in practice, I have found no difference at all in focusing accuracy between my 70-200/2.8L IS and my 24-105/4L IS.
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Well sure, expensive camera - expensive lenses. They are not as necessary on the 5D as they are on the XTi, though. The much higher resolution of the XTi is much more demanding on lenses. Now you will need lenses that are sharp to the edges with the 5D, though, since it is a full frame camera.
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I am not a pro, but photography is my favorite hobby. I started just over 2 years ago when I bought a 20D. Last november, I purchased a 5D to go with it. I love both cameras they each have their strong points. But, I too would also say for you to start with a 30D or wait a short while hopefully for the new 40D. I have taken many awesome pics with the 20D that I'm proud of, and I have printed some of them out with my Epson 2400 printer at 13 x 19 without any problems. Spend your extra money on very nice lenses. They are your best investment, and the whole point of having a dslr is the the ability that you have to use different lenses for different types of pictures. (Wide angle, portrait, low light, macro, telephoto, etc.) My biggest "problem" is that I don't specialize in just one or two types of photography, I like to take pictures of anything, anywhere, so I have bought quite a few lenses. It's not cheap, But I really enjoy it.
Don't forget that you will want to buy a nice camera bag to protect your camera and lenses, memory cards, eventually a tripod, maybe later too a bigger flash, and Filters for your lenses. It all adds up, and to have a nice camera capable of producing great pics is worthless if you do not have a good computer with nice software such as photoshop cs2 to edit your pics, and a high quality printer to print out those nice pics.
Sorry to ramble on. Get the 30D learn and enjoy it, you won't be disappointed at all. My lenses now include: 18-55 kit lens, Tamron 28-75 2.8, 70-200 2.8L IS, 17-40L 4.0, ef-s 10-22, 50 1.4, 85 1.2, 15 2.8 fisheye, 400 5.6, sigma 150 2.8 macro, and a 1.4 TC. Good luck!
Don't forget that you will want to buy a nice camera bag to protect your camera and lenses, memory cards, eventually a tripod, maybe later too a bigger flash, and Filters for your lenses. It all adds up, and to have a nice camera capable of producing great pics is worthless if you do not have a good computer with nice software such as photoshop cs2 to edit your pics, and a high quality printer to print out those nice pics.
Sorry to ramble on. Get the 30D learn and enjoy it, you won't be disappointed at all. My lenses now include: 18-55 kit lens, Tamron 28-75 2.8, 70-200 2.8L IS, 17-40L 4.0, ef-s 10-22, 50 1.4, 85 1.2, 15 2.8 fisheye, 400 5.6, sigma 150 2.8 macro, and a 1.4 TC. Good luck!
sugar208304
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but the 30D is very poor compared to the two others on other points (viewfinder, shutter noise just to name two points)
The highh ISO difference is less important then most people out here claim. I would never consider a 30D.
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The highh ISO difference is less important then most people out here claim. I would never consider a 30D.
--will give you better high ISO performance. That's where they shine.
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xtoph
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actually, yes there are hidden focus sensors that only work with lenses of max apertures 2.8 or wider, on both the 20/30d and 5d.
i am not saying that the 24-105 can't focus properly or is a poor lens (though it isn't really right for me). just that compared to the 17-55/2.8, you give up not only a stop worth of potential speed and dof control, but also cannot engage the most accurate focussing sensors on the camera. the greater dof at f/4 is one reason you won't likely notice all that much most focus errors which do occur, but there you are.
more important imo (and for my kind of work) is that the faster the aperture of the lens, the lower the light levels in which you can achieve autofocus lock (or the faster you attain that lock, when the camera is struggling due to dim light). and of course the brighter the image in the viewfinder, which is an aid to composition and manual focus if desired. i have often had to switch out my f/2.8 lenses for faster glass to keep shooting in very low light (i work a lot on dimmly lit streets at night). i don't even own anything slower than that.
and lastly, i have a precision focus screen on my 5d, which is slightly less bright than the standard clear screen. if you think you might be interested in using manual focus, this screen is highly useful, and is another reason for getting lenses which keep your viewfinder well-illuminated.
i am not saying that the 24-105 can't focus properly or is a poor lens (though it isn't really right for me). just that compared to the 17-55/2.8, you give up not only a stop worth of potential speed and dof control, but also cannot engage the most accurate focussing sensors on the camera. the greater dof at f/4 is one reason you won't likely notice all that much most focus errors which do occur, but there you are.
more important imo (and for my kind of work) is that the faster the aperture of the lens, the lower the light levels in which you can achieve autofocus lock (or the faster you attain that lock, when the camera is struggling due to dim light). and of course the brighter the image in the viewfinder, which is an aid to composition and manual focus if desired. i have often had to switch out my f/2.8 lenses for faster glass to keep shooting in very low light (i work a lot on dimmly lit streets at night). i don't even own anything slower than that.
and lastly, i have a precision focus screen on my 5d, which is slightly less bright than the standard clear screen. if you think you might be interested in using manual focus, this screen is highly useful, and is another reason for getting lenses which keep your viewfinder well-illuminated.
xtoph
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yes the camera uses the max available aperture to focus. that is exactly the point. if f/4 is the max available aperture, the camera relies exclusively on the less accurate sets of sensors.
Dave Largent
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Which focus screen do you have?
James S
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This is where the mail order versus brick and mortor really make a difference. Give a local guy a chance and you'll see the difference in the cameras. Going into debt for a camera that still needs a flash and lenses for more debt is a personal question. Look through the viewfinder on the Rebel XTi, the 30, and the 5. If you won't be asking yourself if you made a mistake after the purchase, you might look at the less expensive cameras. Personally, I think that the anti-dust on the Rebel is its selling point, not the pixel count. The command wheel makes the step up to the 30 worth it for many. The lack of a built in flash makes the 5 a problem for some. For the pictures you want to take a flash is going to be in the cards so that might be a portability issue. Just don't waste the camera store's time and money for the test drive and then buy mail order. It isn't fair.
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The 30D will give you greater reach and you will not require heavy expensive lenses, considering that the 30D is better for all round performance, but if you mainly what to shoot portraits and landscape the 5D is a better option
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I see several folks on here suggesting the lack of a flash with the 5D is a deal breaker. Honestly beyond point and shoot cameras, built in flash is probably a waste of camera space and engineering. If you have a good enternal flash with bounce capability, using it with a bounce card or a diffuser, you will immediately see that the built in flash is not only unsatisfactory, it is an insult to the otherwise fine quality you can get from a DSLR. I'm really rather surprised any DSLR includes a built in flash. It honestly is an insult to the camera.
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xtoph
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i use the standard one offered by canon (ee s? or whatever). it is cheap and i don't have to worry about metering workarounds. i find that with fast lenses, the loss of brightness is very slight, and it is a tremendous help to be able to visually confirm focus off-center on lenses when you are shooting wide open, esp wide angles with less than perfectly flat planes of focus (yes, i know that the ground glass is effectively a smaller aperture than, say, my 24 at 1.4, but if you are in the middle of the focal envelope, it will be in focus even at the wider aperture).
some of the aftermarket options may be useful, but i haven't tried them. the canon screen was essentially no-risk, and has turned out well for me.
some of the aftermarket options may be useful, but i haven't tried them. the canon screen was essentially no-risk, and has turned out well for me.
Old Timer63
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You can see by the different advice here that there really isn't one ideal camera or lens set up for any individual.
I had the D30, I still have a D60,XTI,20D,5d and 1dsmk2.( I'm not a collector but because they drop in price so much it's sometimes just not worth trading plus different days and different subjects require different things.) and I enjoy comparing all the models and can assure you that when all falls in line any of the above cameras can catch you an image that thrills you.
Before Canon brought out the excellent 10-22(which solves the wide angle Ff problems) it was hobsons choice but now that the 10-22 is around it can turn a 1.6 crop camera into a very good tool for WA shots as well as the added reach for tele work. I use my cameras as I fancy or as the image requires. Your not going to know what is best for you till (IMHO) you use a few cameras and find out for yourself just what features are best for you and what you enjoy using. Owning a 1dsmk2 really means that I shouldn't have got the 5D because I find myself saying that while I'm using a FF camera I might as well have the extra pixels and to be honest at A3+ my 1Dsmk2 is definately capable of finer detail than my 5D. the pixel density of the 1dsmk2 reminds me of the 20D and in tests that I've done the 20D certainly captures fine detail as good as anything I own when printing up to A3+ and that is where the mk2 takes over.What I like about my 20D is that it is beafey enough to feel decent with the battery grip but doesn't break your arms carrying around for a day. The xti is a bit too small for my liking and doesn't give me the same out of the camera colour and quality that the 20D gives me without too much post processing. The D60 was also a great camera for out of the camera results but is a bit old hat now.
I would say that a 30D would give you a tool that can match most other cameras as far as image quality goes and give you lots to learn and reward you when you get it right. Add to this a 10-22 (equi 16-35) a 24-105 which works a treat on the 1.6 crop camera getting rid of the main bug bear being vigging in the corners. I certainly wouldn't worry too much about maximum f stops at present. You then have a wide choice of longer lenses when you are ready.
First things first, try to handle all cameras on your short list and this alone might get you started down the road with at least a camera that you feel comfortable with and if you feel comfortable you can then get down to taking pictures and begin the learning process.
Good luck with your choice, you are starting down the road that could be the thing that gives you many hours of enjoyment and remember photography can fit just nicely into a family circle unlike many hobbies.
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I had the D30, I still have a D60,XTI,20D,5d and 1dsmk2.( I'm not a collector but because they drop in price so much it's sometimes just not worth trading plus different days and different subjects require different things.) and I enjoy comparing all the models and can assure you that when all falls in line any of the above cameras can catch you an image that thrills you.
Before Canon brought out the excellent 10-22(which solves the wide angle Ff problems) it was hobsons choice but now that the 10-22 is around it can turn a 1.6 crop camera into a very good tool for WA shots as well as the added reach for tele work. I use my cameras as I fancy or as the image requires. Your not going to know what is best for you till (IMHO) you use a few cameras and find out for yourself just what features are best for you and what you enjoy using. Owning a 1dsmk2 really means that I shouldn't have got the 5D because I find myself saying that while I'm using a FF camera I might as well have the extra pixels and to be honest at A3+ my 1Dsmk2 is definately capable of finer detail than my 5D. the pixel density of the 1dsmk2 reminds me of the 20D and in tests that I've done the 20D certainly captures fine detail as good as anything I own when printing up to A3+ and that is where the mk2 takes over.What I like about my 20D is that it is beafey enough to feel decent with the battery grip but doesn't break your arms carrying around for a day. The xti is a bit too small for my liking and doesn't give me the same out of the camera colour and quality that the 20D gives me without too much post processing. The D60 was also a great camera for out of the camera results but is a bit old hat now.
I would say that a 30D would give you a tool that can match most other cameras as far as image quality goes and give you lots to learn and reward you when you get it right. Add to this a 10-22 (equi 16-35) a 24-105 which works a treat on the 1.6 crop camera getting rid of the main bug bear being vigging in the corners. I certainly wouldn't worry too much about maximum f stops at present. You then have a wide choice of longer lenses when you are ready.
First things first, try to handle all cameras on your short list and this alone might get you started down the road with at least a camera that you feel comfortable with and if you feel comfortable you can then get down to taking pictures and begin the learning process.
Good luck with your choice, you are starting down the road that could be the thing that gives you many hours of enjoyment and remember photography can fit just nicely into a family circle unlike many hobbies.
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noiseless
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About a year or so ago I was ready to get out of point and shoot photography and move on to the DSLR's. I wanted something as close to 35mm SLR photography as I could get. The 5D was as much as would dare spend but I still was not sure. I bought a 350D and experienced everything my SONY 717F could not do (higher ISO's, higher shutter speeds). Sold the 350D and bought the 30D for the full range of ISO and shutter speed. Finally bit the bullet and bought the 5D for 2500USD. If I would have known what I know today I would have purchased the 5D a year or so ago.
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