Wanna be blown away?

I have a fundamental problem with using either ofoto or shutterfly; they won't accept the superior tiff format!

I usually shoot in RAW mode, post process in PS and always save in tiff for the sake of quality.

I've yet to find an online printer that accepts tiff format. Though, this isn't 100% accurate either. Both MysticColor and ezprints accept tiff, but CONVERT / COMPRESS TO JPEG!!!

Please let me know if you discover anyone who supports tiff format.

TIA, Frank
 
I sent off some pics to ezprints and they came back with a very strong blue cast to them. Sent the same prints to ImageStation and got much better (ok, awesome) results (for 4x6 prints - haven't yet tried larger sizes). Currently checking out ofoto, so will post back.--Amal Elaine Schmitz
 
Thanks for the suggestion Norbert. I have a G1 and did not think I could get a quality print at 16x20 until I read your post. I decided to try out Ofoto with the following image:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1005&message=2036565

I agree with you that Ofoto dose an outstanding job. I upsampled in PhotoShop and submitted to them. The results are exactly what I had on my monitor.

Morris
Those lucky ones out there.. use your Canon G2 or S40, upload
prints to a site called Ofoto (Ofoto.com), have them make prints
for you, and when you open the mail you will be blown out of your
socks when you see the quality of the prints! Absolutely as good
as regular film!! You can even make a poster size 2 X3 feet! And
it will be sharp as a razor! Try it!
--
Norbert W.
 
I agree with you that Ofoto dose an outstanding job. I upsampled
in PhotoShop and submitted to them. The results are exactly what I
had on my monitor.
Glad to hear it. They consistently darken my images, and put a red cast in hair.

Then they tell me to fix my pictures.--chris hemstead, g2 owner
 
Future Shop has good prices for larger pix but limited print sizes and no other options besides prints.

London drugs has good 4x6 prices but is more expensive for larger prints. Their largest size is larger than what Future Shop offers though. They have options like foam backing, etc.

Blacks is more expensive than both with a max size of 8x10. They also offer other picture products too, although not as many as London Drugs.

I've only ever ordered from Future Shop though. Good quality and good service. Shipping for Future shop is cheap. I dunno what Blacks charges for shipping although someone said Blacks offers in store pickup anywhere in Canada. I dunno what London Drugs charges.

By the way, as for the colour, I wonder if you have your monitor correctly calibrated if you photoshopped your picture. Most monitors for PCs are calibrated to around 9000+ degrees, which is far too blue for photo editing. Thus to compensate, people tend to adjust the pink/purpleness up more to look good on your monitor and on the web, etc. However, when you print it it comes out too pink. This may be your problem.
ChuckyB
Those lucky ones out there.. use your Canon G2 or S40, upload
prints to a site called Ofoto (Ofoto.com), have them make prints
for you, and when you open the mail you will be blown out of your
socks when you see the quality of the prints! Absolutely as good
as regular film!! You can even make a poster size 2 X3 feet! And
it will be sharp as a razor! Try it!
--
Norbert W.
 
just a thought... to get a 2 x 3 feet photo without losing any
quality, you need atleast a 77 megapixel camera...
That's if you want to be able judge a quality with a loupe. Using that logic for building sized posters we need 6 foot high film cameras.

If it's a wall poster a good quality 4 MP should be fine.
 
I find that people have their monitors consistently set waaaay too blue. ie. 95% of non-pros will get pictures back that seem too red for them, because they overredified the pix to make it look good on their miscalibrated monitors.

Not a criticism, but just a comment: The photo store may in fact be correct that your pictures' colour balance is off.
I agree with you that Ofoto dose an outstanding job. I upsampled
in PhotoShop and submitted to them. The results are exactly what I
had on my monitor.
Glad to hear it. They consistently darken my images, and put a red
cast in hair.

Then they tell me to fix my pictures.
--
chris hemstead, g2 owner
 
How would one check this?
Not a criticism, but just a comment: The photo store may in fact be
correct that your pictures' colour balance is off.
I agree with you that Ofoto dose an outstanding job. I upsampled
in PhotoShop and submitted to them. The results are exactly what I
had on my monitor.
Glad to hear it. They consistently darken my images, and put a red
cast in hair.

Then they tell me to fix my pictures.
--
chris hemstead, g2 owner
 
To calibrat:

http://digiprintstore.com/color-chart.htm
Not a criticism, but just a comment: The photo store may in fact be
correct that your pictures' colour balance is off.
I agree with you that Ofoto dose an outstanding job. I upsampled
in PhotoShop and submitted to them. The results are exactly what I
had on my monitor.
Glad to hear it. They consistently darken my images, and put a red
cast in hair.

Then they tell me to fix my pictures.
--
chris hemstead, g2 owner
 
One way to get a gross measure is to see what your monitor is set at. If something like 9300 degrees then you're most likely too blue.
http://digiprintstore.com/color-chart.htm
Not a criticism, but just a comment: The photo store may in fact be
correct that your pictures' colour balance is off.
I agree with you that Ofoto dose an outstanding job. I upsampled
in PhotoShop and submitted to them. The results are exactly what I
had on my monitor.
Glad to hear it. They consistently darken my images, and put a red
cast in hair.

Then they tell me to fix my pictures.
--
chris hemstead, g2 owner
 
I find that people have their monitors consistently set waaaay too
blue. ie. 95% of non-pros will get pictures back that seem too red
for them
On pbase, everyone's pictures look fine to me. I'll check my calibration anyway.

In the meantime, I'm trying another developer.--chris hemstead, g2 owner
 
I find that people have their monitors consistently set waaaay too
blue. ie. 95% of non-pros will get pictures back that seem too red
for them, because they overredified the pix to make it look good on
their miscalibrated monitors.
Assuming your monitor is ok.. check this out
http://www.pbase.com/hemstead/g2_pics

1) "My daughter". I admit the picture is too red, but, look closely at her hair? Is it red, or brown ?

2) "Mall store" see the black tablecloth? See the folds ? The ofoto print completely obliterated the folds. Pic looks like it was taken with a disposable camera.

--chris hemstead, g2 owner
 
Well, my computers are not 100% correctly calibrated these days either, but a bit closer to correct than average.

However, your URL is broken so I can't see the pics.
I find that people have their monitors consistently set waaaay too
blue. ie. 95% of non-pros will get pictures back that seem too red
for them, because they overredified the pix to make it look good on
their miscalibrated monitors.
Assuming your monitor is ok.. check this out
http://www.pbase.com/hemstead/g2_pics

1) "My daughter". I admit the picture is too red, but, look
closely at her hair? Is it red, or brown ?

2) "Mall store" see the black tablecloth? See the folds ? The
ofoto print completely obliterated the folds. Pic looks like it
was taken with a disposable camera.

--
chris hemstead, g2 owner
 
However, in other areas it looks more like a reddish brown, almost as if light is reflecting off her shirt or something.

It's always hard to tell when you don't have the subject and print in front of you.

BTW, some places will manually adjust the colour for you too before printing, but they cost more.
I can quite clearly see the tablecloth folds though.
Well, my computers are not 100% correctly calibrated these days
either, but a bit closer to correct than average.
sorry.. http://www.pbase.com/hemsteadc/g2_pics
-- http://www.pbase.com/hemsteadc/g2_pics
--
chris hemstead, g2 owner
 
BTW, some places will manually adjust the colour for you too before
printing, but they cost more.
Fine with me. I'll pay for quality work.

Ofoto's processing of the red was perhaps understandable, but mushing the detail of the tablecloth was unacceptable to me.

--chris hemstead, g2 owner
 
For detailed information on Canadian services:

http://www.notjustjay.com/photo/

http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~rakerman/digiphoto.html#Table

The second site is mine. I have tested almost all the Canadian services.

-- Richard Akerman
London drugs has good 4x6 prices but is more expensive for larger
prints. Their largest size is larger than what Future Shop offers
though. They have options like foam backing, etc.

Blacks is more expensive than both with a max size of 8x10. They
also offer other picture products too, although not as many as
London Drugs.

I've only ever ordered from Future Shop though. Good quality and
good service. Shipping for Future shop is cheap. I dunno what
Blacks charges for shipping although someone said Blacks offers in
store pickup anywhere in Canada. I dunno what London Drugs charges.

By the way, as for the colour, I wonder if you have your monitor
correctly calibrated if you photoshopped your picture. Most
monitors for PCs are calibrated to around 9000+ degrees, which is
far too blue for photo editing. Thus to compensate, people tend to
adjust the pink/purpleness up more to look good on your monitor and
on the web, etc. However, when you print it it comes out too pink.
This may be your problem.
ChuckyB
Those lucky ones out there.. use your Canon G2 or S40, upload
prints to a site called Ofoto (Ofoto.com), have them make prints
for you, and when you open the mail you will be blown out of your
socks when you see the quality of the prints! Absolutely as good
as regular film!! You can even make a poster size 2 X3 feet! And
it will be sharp as a razor! Try it!
--
Norbert W.
 

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