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Today I went back to Best Buy and looked at the D7 again. Best Buy in my area has it priced at $999. After reading Brian Biggers post on Batteries, I thought Brian had the heat thing worked out. As it turns out Brian was wrong. When I got to the store the camera had batteries in it but they quit in a very short period of time. I put in my Power EX rechargable Nimh Batteries and continued to examine the D7 once more as I felt the Grip on the D7 heat up.

Again I noticed that compared to the E-20 the D7 felt like a toy in my hands. If that offends others then so be it. As far as I am concerned the D7 cannot even compete with the E-10 and E-20 where construction is concerned. Some have said, they have even dropped the D7 with no damage. I think thats great but I also think that a better comparison would be the constuction of an Old Lincoln Town Car to that of Yugo. Just looking the two side by side you can see the difference in contruction and quality. Is that worth an extra $200 or $300? In my opinion yes.

I tried and tried to get the D7 to focus. Sometimes it did, and sometimes it didn't. Compared to the E-20 or the E-10 it is very slow to focus when and if it did. I found the very tiny wheel and attempted to adjust the diopter. I got it as close to focus as I could, but to be honest I never really felt that the EVF was in clear focus. I will say that the Electronic View Finder(EVF) was nice and bright in the store. The image in it seemed to be very steady but again slightly out of focus.

But the fact that I could not get what I felt was a clearly focused shot in the view finder really bothered me. I set the D7 to auto everything and still could not really get a clearly focused image in the EVF. I locked the Macro in on the lens and again focus issues. I did bring a compact flash card with me so I did take a few pictures. Yes the D7 is only Compact flash and only holds one card. I see that as a limitation. The E-10/20 hold both smart media and compact flash. The E-20 supports the 1 gig Microdrive. I have used the 1 gig MD with my E-100,E-10,and E-20. I know others have have problems with the 1 gig MD in the E-10 but I didn't.

In my opinion File writing in the D7 is slower compared to the E-20.

I did not think the camera was laid out very well. Most of the buttons were too small which made it a chore to change the functions. I have small hands and fingers. The button used to change to modes to review, P mode, and others is locked by a small tab you have to depress to change it. Some may see this as a benefit but I found it annoying.

As far as the heat issue goes, the grip on the camera got very warm. I had the sales person touch it and even she said it was very warm. I turned off the camera and took out my CF card and batteries. A moment later I had my girlfriend come up and feel it and she also agreed it was warm.

This is my Conclusion:

The Grip on the D7 gets very warm when the camera is used continuously even with NiMH 1600 fully charged batteries in it. I intentionally brought batteries of this type with me to test Brian Biggers therory. Maybe I was examining a defective D7 but I really do not think so. Others have noted this heat problem. This is not just my observation, but the observation myself and two others who have nothing to gain by reporting this.

The D7 focus is very slow compared to the E-10 or E-20. In my opinion I think even the E-100rs and UZI is faster.

The D7 has focusing problems. I will know more when I look at the pictures I took in the store tonight, but if I went by the EVF, most of the time there was a focus issue. The camera may be better when used maually, but what is the point. There are sometimes you just want to get the shot and I personally do not want to miss the shot because I am trying to get the settings right.

The Buttons and adjustments are too small which makes it hard to adjust or manipulate.

D7 File write times are slow compared to the E-10 or E-20. I left out the E-100 and UZI here because the file sizes are so much different so it would not be a fair comparison.

Althought the D7 EVF was nice and bright in the store, I had a very hard time getting it to the point where I felt it was in focus. That was even after adjusting the diopter several times. The EVF flips up so you can look through it at different angles but again construction of it concerned me and this feature did not make the image in it any clearer.

It may seem to any who read this post that I am hammering the D7 intentionally, but I am not. I went to examine the D7 with an open mind. if with the possibility of buying it. I was really looking for good points in it to report, but the bad points of the D7 overwhelmed me once again.

I personally would avoid the D7. I am sure others feel differently. I think to buy it solely for the 28-200 lens 5MP would be a bad decision based on the other things I mentioned here.

Even at $600, the D7 is no bargin.

Jason
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i dont like sony or the memory stick,i like mostly the cf card,microdrive then smart media.today im going to comp usa and buying a few c-2100 uzi if i can get 3 im buying them up.
Today I went back to Best Buy and looked at the D7 again. Best Buy
in my area has it priced at $999. After reading Brian Biggers post
on Batteries, I thought Brian had the heat thing worked out. As it
turns out Brian was wrong. When I got to the store the camera had
batteries in it but they quit in a very short period of time. I put
in my Power EX rechargable Nimh Batteries and continued to examine
the D7 once more as I felt the Grip on the D7 heat up.

Again I noticed that compared to the E-20 the D7 felt like a toy in
my hands. If that offends others then so be it. As far as I am
concerned the D7 cannot even compete with the E-10 and E-20 where
construction is concerned. Some have said, they have even dropped
the D7 with no damage. I think thats great but I also think that a
better comparison would be the constuction of an Old Lincoln Town
Car to that of Yugo. Just looking the two side by side you can see
the difference in contruction and quality. Is that worth an extra
$200 or $300? In my opinion yes.

I tried and tried to get the D7 to focus. Sometimes it did, and
sometimes it didn't. Compared to the E-20 or the E-10 it is very
slow to focus when and if it did. I found the very tiny wheel and
attempted to adjust the diopter. I got it as close to focus as I
could, but to be honest I never really felt that the EVF was in
clear focus. I will say that the Electronic View Finder(EVF) was
nice and bright in the store. The image in it seemed to be very
steady but again slightly out of focus.

But the fact that I could not get what I felt was a clearly focused
shot in the view finder really bothered me. I set the D7 to auto
everything and still could not really get a clearly focused image
in the EVF. I locked the Macro in on the lens and again focus
issues. I did bring a compact flash card with me so I did take a
few pictures. Yes the D7 is only Compact flash and only holds one
card. I see that as a limitation. The E-10/20 hold both smart media
and compact flash. The E-20 supports the 1 gig Microdrive. I have
used the 1 gig MD with my E-100,E-10,and E-20. I know others have
have problems with the 1 gig MD in the E-10 but I didn't.

In my opinion File writing in the D7 is slower compared to the E-20.

I did not think the camera was laid out very well. Most of the
buttons were too small which made it a chore to change the
functions. I have small hands and fingers. The button used to
change to modes to review, P mode, and others is locked by a small
tab you have to depress to change it. Some may see this as a
benefit but I found it annoying.

As far as the heat issue goes, the grip on the camera got very
warm. I had the sales person touch it and even she said it was very
warm. I turned off the camera and took out my CF card and
batteries. A moment later I had my girlfriend come up and feel it
and she also agreed it was warm.

This is my Conclusion:

The Grip on the D7 gets very warm when the camera is used
continuously even with NiMH 1600 fully charged batteries in it. I
intentionally brought batteries of this type with me to test Brian
Biggers therory. Maybe I was examining a defective D7 but I really
do not think so. Others have noted this heat problem. This is not
just my observation, but the observation myself and two others who
have nothing to gain by reporting this.

The D7 focus is very slow compared to the E-10 or E-20. In my
opinion I think even the E-100rs and UZI is faster.

The D7 has focusing problems. I will know more when I look at the
pictures I took in the store tonight, but if I went by the EVF,
most of the time there was a focus issue. The camera may be better
when used maually, but what is the point. There are sometimes you
just want to get the shot and I personally do not want to miss the
shot because I am trying to get the settings right.

The Buttons and adjustments are too small which makes it hard to
adjust or manipulate.

D7 File write times are slow compared to the E-10 or E-20. I left
out the E-100 and UZI here because the file sizes are so much
different so it would not be a fair comparison.

Althought the D7 EVF was nice and bright in the store, I had a very
hard time getting it to the point where I felt it was in focus.
That was even after adjusting the diopter several times. The EVF
flips up so you can look through it at different angles but again
construction of it concerned me and this feature did not make the
image in it any clearer.

It may seem to any who read this post that I am hammering the D7
intentionally, but I am not. I went to examine the D7 with an open
mind. if with the possibility of buying it. I was really looking
for good points in it to report, but the bad points of the D7
overwhelmed me once again.

I personally would avoid the D7. I am sure others feel differently.
I think to buy it solely for the 28-200 lens 5MP would be a bad
decision based on the other things I mentioned here.

Even at $600, the D7 is no bargin.

Jason

--
Jason Stoller [email protected]
Catching that special moment with a great camera
 
.
Today I went back to Best Buy and looked at the D7 again. Best Buy
in my area has it priced at $999. After reading Brian Biggers post
on Batteries, I thought Brian had the heat thing worked out. As it
turns out Brian was wrong. When I got to the store the camera had
batteries in it but they quit in a very short period of time. I put
in my Power EX rechargable Nimh Batteries and continued to examine
the D7 once more as I felt the Grip on the D7 heat up.
overwhelmed me once again.
I personally would avoid the D7. I am sure others feel differently.
I think to buy it solely for the 28-200 lens 5MP would be a bad
decision based on the other things I mentioned here.

Even at $600, the D7 is no bargin.

Jason

--
Jason Stoller [email protected]
Catching that special moment with a great camera
Hi Jason, thanks for you very comprehensive report.

Nine months ago I ordered a D7,but decided on a E10, a friend of ours who lives in the midalnds in the UK actually bought one , but I cannot get much feedback from her with regards your findings. I have to make the conclusion that all your findings are correct as she does not seem to defend the camera. The shots that I have seen are good.

I have als recently purchased a D/C40 as a general take anywere camera and Im very pleased with the results

Regards --Mike
 
I really went to Best Buy today to really look at the D7 objectively. I was hoping to find something I missed the previous times I had looked at it. With all the talk in a previous thread in this forum I thought I might have over looked something or that I could have been wrong in my previous findings. I made sure I had plenty of time, extra batteries, and a decent size CF card. Unless this D7 was defective it reflects the findings of others that I have read.

Jason
Today I went back to Best Buy and looked at the D7 again. Best Buy
in my area has it priced at $999. After reading Brian Biggers post
on Batteries, I thought Brian had the heat thing worked out. As it
turns out Brian was wrong. When I got to the store the camera had
batteries in it but they quit in a very short period of time. I put
in my Power EX rechargable Nimh Batteries and continued to examine
the D7 once more as I felt the Grip on the D7 heat up.
overwhelmed me once again.
I personally would avoid the D7. I am sure others feel differently.
I think to buy it solely for the 28-200 lens 5MP would be a bad
decision based on the other things I mentioned here.

Even at $600, the D7 is no bargin.

Jason

--
Jason Stoller [email protected]
Catching that special moment with a great camera
Hi Jason, thanks for you very comprehensive report.

Nine months ago I ordered a D7,but decided on a E10, a friend of
ours who lives in the midalnds in the UK actually bought one , but
I cannot get much feedback from her with regards your findings. I
have to make the conclusion that all your findings are correct as
she does not seem to defend the camera. The shots that I have seen
are good.

I have als recently purchased a D/C40 as a general take anywere
camera and Im very pleased with the results

Regards
--
Mike
--Jason Stoller [email protected] that special moment with a great camera
 
Hi Jason.

Do you have an idea about how the grip getting warm/hot may affect picture quality or the health of the CF card? If it doesn't affect either is there any reason for concern?

I remember people in the Minolta forum saying that it is iin fact better that the heat gets conducted away from the inside of the camera. I don't know if there's any merit to that or if they're just trying to justify their purchase.

Maxven
Jason
Today I went back to Best Buy and looked at the D7 again. Best Buy
in my area has it priced at $999. After reading Brian Biggers post
on Batteries, I thought Brian had the heat thing worked out. As it
turns out Brian was wrong. When I got to the store the camera had
batteries in it but they quit in a very short period of time. I put
in my Power EX rechargable Nimh Batteries and continued to examine
the D7 once more as I felt the Grip on the D7 heat up.
overwhelmed me once again.
I personally would avoid the D7. I am sure others feel differently.
I think to buy it solely for the 28-200 lens 5MP would be a bad
decision based on the other things I mentioned here.

Even at $600, the D7 is no bargin.

Jason

--
Jason Stoller [email protected]
Catching that special moment with a great camera
Hi Jason, thanks for you very comprehensive report.

Nine months ago I ordered a D7,but decided on a E10, a friend of
ours who lives in the midalnds in the UK actually bought one , but
I cannot get much feedback from her with regards your findings. I
have to make the conclusion that all your findings are correct as
she does not seem to defend the camera. The shots that I have seen
are good.

I have als recently purchased a D/C40 as a general take anywere
camera and Im very pleased with the results

Regards
--
Mike
--
Jason Stoller [email protected]
Catching that special moment with a great camera
 
Hi Maxven! Yes I agree that heat moving away from the inside of the camera is a good thing, The grip getting warm makes the camera uncomfortable in my hand. It also makes my hand sweat. If there is that much heat coming out of the grip it cannot be a good thing in my opinion.

Maybe my hands are just heat sensative. In my opinion the grip getting warm is a design flaw. Certainly Nikon, Olympus, Canon, and others do not seem to have camera's with this problem. At least none that have been mentioned yet. I bought cheap digital camera's for my kids last year and they don't heat up like this.

Electronic things and Heat, Hmmm, I think you can figure that out. I do not know if there is any effect on the CF card but I do know that heat does shorten the life of electronic components. The fact that the grip you hold onto is made of plastic and heat is directed to it would concern me.

Maybe the D7 is just designed that way and some can live with it. I cannot believe that Minolta would not be aware of this issue. Brian claimed that Minolta shipped it with alkiline batteries and the batteries were the cause of the heat. After trying his remedy and using the type of batteries he suggested, I now dispute that.

Like anyone else, if I can find a solution to a problem like this in a product that interests me then I am more inclined to buy it. Maxven its unfortunate that the grip heating up in my hand was not the only issue I found. I would suggest to anyone, before they plop down $600 big ones that they go find a store with one and see for themselves. Even a $1 is to big an investment in something that you are not going to be happy with.

Jason
Do you have an idea about how the grip getting warm/hot may affect
picture quality or the health of the CF card? If it doesn't affect
either is there any reason for concern?

I remember people in the Minolta forum saying that it is iin fact
better that the heat gets conducted away from the inside of the
camera. I don't know if there's any merit to that or if they're
just trying to justify their purchase.

Maxven
Jason
Today I went back to Best Buy and looked at the D7 again. Best Buy
in my area has it priced at $999. After reading Brian Biggers post
on Batteries, I thought Brian had the heat thing worked out. As it
turns out Brian was wrong. When I got to the store the camera had
batteries in it but they quit in a very short period of time. I put
in my Power EX rechargable Nimh Batteries and continued to examine
the D7 once more as I felt the Grip on the D7 heat up.
overwhelmed me once again.
I personally would avoid the D7. I am sure others feel differently.
I think to buy it solely for the 28-200 lens 5MP would be a bad
decision based on the other things I mentioned here.

Even at $600, the D7 is no bargin.

Jason

--
Jason Stoller [email protected]
Catching that special moment with a great camera
Hi Jason, thanks for you very comprehensive report.

Nine months ago I ordered a D7,but decided on a E10, a friend of
ours who lives in the midalnds in the UK actually bought one , but
I cannot get much feedback from her with regards your findings. I
have to make the conclusion that all your findings are correct as
she does not seem to defend the camera. The shots that I have seen
are good.

I have als recently purchased a D/C40 as a general take anywere
camera and Im very pleased with the results

Regards
--
Mike
--
Jason Stoller [email protected]
Catching that special moment with a great camera
--Jason Stoller [email protected] that special moment with a great camera
 
jason are you strictly an olympus guy if the coolpix 5000 got better ratings would you purchase this unit?also if you want to know a good nimh battery i use the gp1800mah from http://www.greenbatteries.com their unreal you can just keep shooting with display they keep going.i found these batteries from this site 8aa and a powerhaus quick charger for $52.
Electronic things and Heat, Hmmm, I think you can figure that out.
I do not know if there is any effect on the CF card but I do know
that heat does shorten the life of electronic components. The fact
that the grip you hold onto is made of plastic and heat is directed
to it would concern me.

Maybe the D7 is just designed that way and some can live with it.
I cannot believe that Minolta would not be aware of this issue.
Brian claimed that Minolta shipped it with alkiline batteries and
the batteries were the cause of the heat. After trying his remedy
and using the type of batteries he suggested, I now dispute that.

Like anyone else, if I can find a solution to a problem like this
in a product that interests me then I am more inclined to buy it.
Maxven its unfortunate that the grip heating up in my hand was not
the only issue I found. I would suggest to anyone, before they
plop down $600 big ones that they go find a store with one and see
for themselves. Even a $1 is to big an investment in something
that you are not going to be happy with.

Jason
Do you have an idea about how the grip getting warm/hot may affect
picture quality or the health of the CF card? If it doesn't affect
either is there any reason for concern?

I remember people in the Minolta forum saying that it is iin fact
better that the heat gets conducted away from the inside of the
camera. I don't know if there's any merit to that or if they're
just trying to justify their purchase.

Maxven
Jason
Today I went back to Best Buy and looked at the D7 again. Best Buy
in my area has it priced at $999. After reading Brian Biggers post
on Batteries, I thought Brian had the heat thing worked out. As it
turns out Brian was wrong. When I got to the store the camera had
batteries in it but they quit in a very short period of time. I put
in my Power EX rechargable Nimh Batteries and continued to examine
the D7 once more as I felt the Grip on the D7 heat up.
overwhelmed me once again.
I personally would avoid the D7. I am sure others feel differently.
I think to buy it solely for the 28-200 lens 5MP would be a bad
decision based on the other things I mentioned here.

Even at $600, the D7 is no bargin.

Jason

--
Jason Stoller [email protected]
Catching that special moment with a great camera
Hi Jason, thanks for you very comprehensive report.

Nine months ago I ordered a D7,but decided on a E10, a friend of
ours who lives in the midalnds in the UK actually bought one , but
I cannot get much feedback from her with regards your findings. I
have to make the conclusion that all your findings are correct as
she does not seem to defend the camera. The shots that I have seen
are good.

I have als recently purchased a D/C40 as a general take anywere
camera and Im very pleased with the results

Regards
--
Mike
--
Jason Stoller [email protected]
Catching that special moment with a great camera
--
Jason Stoller [email protected]
Catching that special moment with a great camera
 
Hi Jason.

Unfortunately we don't have as liberal return policies in Denmark as certain companies in the US have. My local camera store basically carries nothing but point and shoot cameras. If I'm lucky they may have a G1 sitting on the shelf. When it comes to the D7 I'm fortunate that we have one at work. I was meaning to take it home and try it out over the weekend but some one beat me to it. I leant him a pair of rechargables to give him a chance of trying it without the AC adaptor. Maybe next weekend I'll give it a try. The D7 is more than twice the price here than it is in the US. I really would have to like it in order to get one since I'd be getting it from abroad with no European warranty. It's kind of strange since the D7 started out being cheaper in Europe than anywhere else. Mind you that's the only time I've ever seen European prices being lower than US prices, except for when NY Camera in Germany had the E-100 on sale.

Maxven
Electronic things and Heat, Hmmm, I think you can figure that out.
I do not know if there is any effect on the CF card but I do know
that heat does shorten the life of electronic components. The fact
that the grip you hold onto is made of plastic and heat is directed
to it would concern me.

Maybe the D7 is just designed that way and some can live with it.
I cannot believe that Minolta would not be aware of this issue.
Brian claimed that Minolta shipped it with alkiline batteries and
the batteries were the cause of the heat. After trying his remedy
and using the type of batteries he suggested, I now dispute that.

Like anyone else, if I can find a solution to a problem like this
in a product that interests me then I am more inclined to buy it.
Maxven its unfortunate that the grip heating up in my hand was not
the only issue I found. I would suggest to anyone, before they
plop down $600 big ones that they go find a store with one and see
for themselves. Even a $1 is to big an investment in something
that you are not going to be happy with.

Jason
Do you have an idea about how the grip getting warm/hot may affect
picture quality or the health of the CF card? If it doesn't affect
either is there any reason for concern?

I remember people in the Minolta forum saying that it is iin fact
better that the heat gets conducted away from the inside of the
camera. I don't know if there's any merit to that or if they're
just trying to justify their purchase.

Maxven
Jason
Today I went back to Best Buy and looked at the D7 again. Best Buy
in my area has it priced at $999. After reading Brian Biggers post
on Batteries, I thought Brian had the heat thing worked out. As it
turns out Brian was wrong. When I got to the store the camera had
batteries in it but they quit in a very short period of time. I put
in my Power EX rechargable Nimh Batteries and continued to examine
the D7 once more as I felt the Grip on the D7 heat up.
overwhelmed me once again.
I personally would avoid the D7. I am sure others feel differently.
I think to buy it solely for the 28-200 lens 5MP would be a bad
decision based on the other things I mentioned here.

Even at $600, the D7 is no bargin.

Jason

--
Jason Stoller [email protected]
Catching that special moment with a great camera
Hi Jason, thanks for you very comprehensive report.

Nine months ago I ordered a D7,but decided on a E10, a friend of
ours who lives in the midalnds in the UK actually bought one , but
I cannot get much feedback from her with regards your findings. I
have to make the conclusion that all your findings are correct as
she does not seem to defend the camera. The shots that I have seen
are good.

I have als recently purchased a D/C40 as a general take anywere
camera and Im very pleased with the results

Regards
--
Mike
--
Jason Stoller [email protected]
Catching that special moment with a great camera
--
Jason Stoller [email protected]
Catching that special moment with a great camera
 
No I am not strickly and Olympus guy at all. In fact I started with Kodak and returned it. I then tried a toshbia and returned it even though Comp Usa has made a mistake and had to sell it $200 less than it was supposed to sell it. They were very happy when I returned it. I finally settled on the Nikon 950 which I felt was a great camera at the time but I sold it just before the Market price fell on it and I keep my coolpak and flash bracket with the hope of getting a 990 or 995 in the future. During the wait I was grabbed by the E-10. If you check ebay, I recently sold my Nikon stuff around Christmas. I have the same name on Ebay(ComicDom1) as I do on this forum. I appreciate the battery info but PowerEX are known for their quailty and I use a Maha charger and Li Ion battery pack with my E-100 that I got from Thomas Distributing. I am aware of Green batteries and they are a great product. With my E-20 I use the Lipo Grip and I can shoot 1000 or more photos depending on how I shoot. I have not exhausted it yet so I do not know the max number of photos that I can take with it yet.

I would investigate any camera before I bought it just like I did the E-10, E-20( which phil did not give a great review), Nikon 950, Toshibia, and Kodak.

I would also handle those camera's several times. I investigated the D7 the same way.

To be honest, I would love to play with the Canon 1D but I cannot afford and even if I could I do not know if I could justify it.
Electronic things and Heat, Hmmm, I think you can figure that out.
I do not know if there is any effect on the CF card but I do know
that heat does shorten the life of electronic components. The fact
that the grip you hold onto is made of plastic and heat is directed
to it would concern me.

Maybe the D7 is just designed that way and some can live with it.
I cannot believe that Minolta would not be aware of this issue.
Brian claimed that Minolta shipped it with alkiline batteries and
the batteries were the cause of the heat. After trying his remedy
and using the type of batteries he suggested, I now dispute that.

Like anyone else, if I can find a solution to a problem like this
in a product that interests me then I am more inclined to buy it.
Maxven its unfortunate that the grip heating up in my hand was not
the only issue I found. I would suggest to anyone, before they
plop down $600 big ones that they go find a store with one and see
for themselves. Even a $1 is to big an investment in something
that you are not going to be happy with.

Jason
Do you have an idea about how the grip getting warm/hot may affect
picture quality or the health of the CF card? If it doesn't affect
either is there any reason for concern?

I remember people in the Minolta forum saying that it is iin fact
better that the heat gets conducted away from the inside of the
camera. I don't know if there's any merit to that or if they're
just trying to justify their purchase.

Maxven
--Jason Stoller [email protected] that special moment with a great camera
 
Maxven if you decide to get one then what you should do is find someone in the states that you trust, that you could send money to and have them ship it as a gift so when it goes through customs you do not get his with a VAT. I will be interested in what you really think about the D7 once you really try it out. You might like the EVI better than the E-100rs. If the focus through the one I handled would have been sharp I know I would have liked the viewfinder better.

Jason
Unfortunately we don't have as liberal return policies in Denmark
as certain companies in the US have. My local camera store
basically carries nothing but point and shoot cameras. If I'm lucky
they may have a G1 sitting on the shelf. When it comes to the D7
I'm fortunate that we have one at work. I was meaning to take it
home and try it out over the weekend but some one beat me to it. I
leant him a pair of rechargables to give him a chance of trying it
without the AC adaptor. Maybe next weekend I'll give it a try. The
D7 is more than twice the price here than it is in the US. I really
would have to like it in order to get one since I'd be getting it
from abroad with no European warranty. It's kind of strange since
the D7 started out being cheaper in Europe than anywhere else. Mind
you that's the only time I've ever seen European prices being lower
than US prices, except for when NY Camera in Germany had the E-100
on sale.

Maxven
Electronic things and Heat, Hmmm, I think you can figure that out.
I do not know if there is any effect on the CF card but I do know
that heat does shorten the life of electronic components. The fact
that the grip you hold onto is made of plastic and heat is directed
to it would concern me.

Maybe the D7 is just designed that way and some can live with it.
I cannot believe that Minolta would not be aware of this issue.
Brian claimed that Minolta shipped it with alkiline batteries and
the batteries were the cause of the heat. After trying his remedy
and using the type of batteries he suggested, I now dispute that.

Like anyone else, if I can find a solution to a problem like this
in a product that interests me then I am more inclined to buy it.
Maxven its unfortunate that the grip heating up in my hand was not
the only issue I found. I would suggest to anyone, before they
plop down $600 big ones that they go find a store with one and see
for themselves. Even a $1 is to big an investment in something
that you are not going to be happy with.

Jason
Do you have an idea about how the grip getting warm/hot may affect
picture quality or the health of the CF card? If it doesn't affect
either is there any reason for concern?

I remember people in the Minolta forum saying that it is iin fact
better that the heat gets conducted away from the inside of the
camera. I don't know if there's any merit to that or if they're
just trying to justify their purchase.

Maxven
I really went to Best Buy today to really look at the D7
objectively. I was hoping to find something I missed the previous
times I had looked at it. With all the talk in a previous thread
in this forum I thought I might have over looked something or that
I could have been wrong in my previous findings. I made sure I had
plenty of time, extra batteries, and a decent size CF card. Unless
this D7 was defective it reflects the findings of others that I
have read.

Jason
--Jason Stoller [email protected] that special moment with a great camera
 
Hi Jason.

Carmen's offered to buy whatever I decide on in the US. We correspond a lot by email and I have no reason to distrust her. I still have high hopes for PMA in February and I'm in no hurry. Maybe I can borrow the D7 from work on a regular basis over the weekends to get me through the wait.

BTW, what's your take on the rumored Olydak? So far I've heard it'll be a 5-6MP 4/3" CCD selling for about $1500 including one lens. It was supposed to be introduced at PMA, but the interview you posted with that Oly rep seemed to indicate that they weren't ready yet.

Maxven

P.S.: I ordered the cabled remote for my E-100. Should be here on Tuesday. You might get a kick reading about my problems getting it:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1008&message=2063649
Jason
Unfortunately we don't have as liberal return policies in Denmark
as certain companies in the US have. My local camera store
basically carries nothing but point and shoot cameras. If I'm lucky
they may have a G1 sitting on the shelf. When it comes to the D7
I'm fortunate that we have one at work. I was meaning to take it
home and try it out over the weekend but some one beat me to it. I
leant him a pair of rechargables to give him a chance of trying it
without the AC adaptor. Maybe next weekend I'll give it a try. The
D7 is more than twice the price here than it is in the US. I really
would have to like it in order to get one since I'd be getting it
from abroad with no European warranty. It's kind of strange since
the D7 started out being cheaper in Europe than anywhere else. Mind
you that's the only time I've ever seen European prices being lower
than US prices, except for when NY Camera in Germany had the E-100
on sale.

Maxven
Electronic things and Heat, Hmmm, I think you can figure that out.
I do not know if there is any effect on the CF card but I do know
that heat does shorten the life of electronic components. The fact
that the grip you hold onto is made of plastic and heat is directed
to it would concern me.

Maybe the D7 is just designed that way and some can live with it.
I cannot believe that Minolta would not be aware of this issue.
Brian claimed that Minolta shipped it with alkiline batteries and
the batteries were the cause of the heat. After trying his remedy
and using the type of batteries he suggested, I now dispute that.

Like anyone else, if I can find a solution to a problem like this
in a product that interests me then I am more inclined to buy it.
Maxven its unfortunate that the grip heating up in my hand was not
the only issue I found. I would suggest to anyone, before they
plop down $600 big ones that they go find a store with one and see
for themselves. Even a $1 is to big an investment in something
that you are not going to be happy with.

Jason
Do you have an idea about how the grip getting warm/hot may affect
picture quality or the health of the CF card? If it doesn't affect
either is there any reason for concern?

I remember people in the Minolta forum saying that it is iin fact
better that the heat gets conducted away from the inside of the
camera. I don't know if there's any merit to that or if they're
just trying to justify their purchase.

Maxven
I really went to Best Buy today to really look at the D7
objectively. I was hoping to find something I missed the previous
times I had looked at it. With all the talk in a previous thread
in this forum I thought I might have over looked something or that
I could have been wrong in my previous findings. I made sure I had
plenty of time, extra batteries, and a decent size CF card. Unless
this D7 was defective it reflects the findings of others that I
have read.

Jason
--
Jason Stoller [email protected]
Catching that special moment with a great camera
 
jason ive tried just about every camera i had the g2 love it,also sold my d30 thought the g2 took just as good pics,had the 995 another great camera i love the feel of 995.had the 4040z nice camera but it seemed to write slow,had the e10 didnt like the weight and focusing wasnt that good.the secret when your buying a camera to avoid restocking fee if you have another camera in mind as long as you exchange for another product theyll wave the 15%restocking fee at least thats how circuit city works.best buy i told them camera pics are comming out blurry theyll send you check in the mail.but like you said canon eos 1d is something i have my eye on if the price drastically drops.i played with it at the camera show in nycity.would you buy the 2100uz for $499 even though you have the 100rs?i figured for the price it might be worth having the 2nd unit or would you get another 100rs for $599?
Jason
Unfortunately we don't have as liberal return policies in Denmark
as certain companies in the US have. My local camera store
basically carries nothing but point and shoot cameras. If I'm lucky
they may have a G1 sitting on the shelf. When it comes to the D7
I'm fortunate that we have one at work. I was meaning to take it
home and try it out over the weekend but some one beat me to it. I
leant him a pair of rechargables to give him a chance of trying it
without the AC adaptor. Maybe next weekend I'll give it a try. The
D7 is more than twice the price here than it is in the US. I really
would have to like it in order to get one since I'd be getting it
from abroad with no European warranty. It's kind of strange since
the D7 started out being cheaper in Europe than anywhere else. Mind
you that's the only time I've ever seen European prices being lower
than US prices, except for when NY Camera in Germany had the E-100
on sale.

Maxven
Electronic things and Heat, Hmmm, I think you can figure that out.
I do not know if there is any effect on the CF card but I do know
that heat does shorten the life of electronic components. The fact
that the grip you hold onto is made of plastic and heat is directed
to it would concern me.

Maybe the D7 is just designed that way and some can live with it.
I cannot believe that Minolta would not be aware of this issue.
Brian claimed that Minolta shipped it with alkiline batteries and
the batteries were the cause of the heat. After trying his remedy
and using the type of batteries he suggested, I now dispute that.

Like anyone else, if I can find a solution to a problem like this
in a product that interests me then I am more inclined to buy it.
Maxven its unfortunate that the grip heating up in my hand was not
the only issue I found. I would suggest to anyone, before they
plop down $600 big ones that they go find a store with one and see
for themselves. Even a $1 is to big an investment in something
that you are not going to be happy with.

Jason
Do you have an idea about how the grip getting warm/hot may affect
picture quality or the health of the CF card? If it doesn't affect
either is there any reason for concern?

I remember people in the Minolta forum saying that it is iin fact
better that the heat gets conducted away from the inside of the
camera. I don't know if there's any merit to that or if they're
just trying to justify their purchase.

Maxven
I really went to Best Buy today to really look at the D7
objectively. I was hoping to find something I missed the previous
times I had looked at it. With all the talk in a previous thread
in this forum I thought I might have over looked something or that
I could have been wrong in my previous findings. I made sure I had
plenty of time, extra batteries, and a decent size CF card. Unless
this D7 was defective it reflects the findings of others that I
have read.

Jason
--
Jason Stoller [email protected]
Catching that special moment with a great camera
 
I do not have a take on it. I am in wait and see mode. I know it will be a 6Mp camera. Oly will have to design lenses to fit it. Even so, unless the frame rates are high and it has a fast and larger buffer, I will not be running out to buy one. If it becomes the one camera to replace both my E-20 and my E-100rs then I will consider it. My Nikon film camera that is gathering dust will go also. I have sold all my other medium format and 35mm film cameras. $1500 would be a great price, but I just do not see it being less than the E-20.

If Carmen ( who is a sweetie) is willing to buy for you, just make sure she ships it as a gift. I have a guy in holland that is a buddy of mine and with the change over to the Euro dollar and a recent purchase he made, he really got socked by Customs. Also if it is a gift have her ship it to you Global priority express mail and you will get it in 3 to 4 business days.

Believe it or not the wired remote is one of three things that I do not own for my Oly camera's yet. I have all the other lenses and two B-300's hehe.

The second thing I lack is the SA2 arm for use with the Tcon-300S when I use that lens with the Lipo grip.

The last thing I do not have is the new hot shoe extention for the E-20. Someone found that Canon makes a compatible hots shoe and extention that communicates exactly the same as the Oly one so I have been using that with the strobo frame camera flip bracket on the E-20.

Jason
Carmen's offered to buy whatever I decide on in the US. We
correspond a lot by email and I have no reason to distrust her. I
still have high hopes for PMA in February and I'm in no hurry.
Maybe I can borrow the D7 from work on a regular basis over the
weekends to get me through the wait.

BTW, what's your take on the rumored Olydak? So far I've heard
it'll be a 5-6MP 4/3" CCD selling for about $1500 including one
lens. It was supposed to be introduced at PMA, but the interview
you posted with that Oly rep seemed to indicate that they weren't
ready yet.

Maxven

P.S.: I ordered the cabled remote for my E-100. Should be here on
Tuesday. You might get a kick reading about my problems getting it:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1008&message=2063649
Maxven if you decide to get one then what you should do is find
someone in the states that you trust, that you could send money to
and have them ship it as a gift so when it goes through customs you
do not get his with a VAT. I will be interested in what you really
think about the D7 once you really try it out. You might like the
EVI better than the E-100rs. If the focus through the one I
handled would have been sharp I know I would have liked the
viewfinder better.

Jason

--Jason Stoller [email protected] that special moment with a great camera
 
Well, Gary I know some that have had focusing problems with the E-10 but when they were sent in for the firmware upgrade that seemed to disappear. Also once Oly does warranty work they give you an additional 6 months of warranty. I have not tried every camera, but I did look at everything that was available in the range I was interested in. I am suprised you let go of your D30. Most that have them seem to love them. No I would not buy an Uzi or a second E-100rs just to have it. The E-20 I have is more than sufficient and I can only shoot one camera at a time. I bought my E-10 at Best Buy when they were discounting them. I got the extra 3 year transferable warranty for $54 and it really helped me sell the E-10 before I got the E-20. Right now I have less in my E-20 than I did in my E-10. I could sell it right now and make a good profit. If I need print size I use the E-20 and if I need print size and zoom I use an add on lens. That makes an Uzi purchase unrealistic for me. I really do not like the viewfinder in the E-100rs or the Uzi. If I am going to to spend more money I would sell what I have and invest it in the Canon ID or the Nikon d1x
jason ive tried just about every camera i had the g2 love it,also
sold my d30 thought the g2 took just as good pics,had the 995
another great camera i love the feel of 995.had the 4040z nice
camera but it seemed to write slow,had the e10 didnt like the
weight and focusing wasnt that good.the secret when your buying a
camera to avoid restocking fee if you have another camera in mind
as long as you exchange for another product theyll wave the
15%restocking fee at least thats how circuit city works.best buy i
told them camera pics are comming out blurry theyll send you check
in the mail.but like you said canon eos 1d is something i have my
eye on if the price drastically drops.i played with it at the
camera show in nycity.would you buy the 2100uz for $499 even though
you have the 100rs?i figured for the price it might be worth having
the 2nd unit or would you get another 100rs for $599?

--Jason Stoller [email protected] that special moment with a great camera
 
i hear what your saying i just see so many people on here talking about how much they love the uzi i just figured these cameras were going for well over $1000 might make sense to pick it up for $499.especially if i have any problems with the 100rs i shoot for a local newspaper.would you think the 100rs is a better camera then the uz they are simular cameras.steves digicam said the 100rs is an uzi on steroids.
jason ive tried just about every camera i had the g2 love it,also
sold my d30 thought the g2 took just as good pics,had the 995
another great camera i love the feel of 995.had the 4040z nice
camera but it seemed to write slow,had the e10 didnt like the
weight and focusing wasnt that good.the secret when your buying a
camera to avoid restocking fee if you have another camera in mind
as long as you exchange for another product theyll wave the
15%restocking fee at least thats how circuit city works.best buy i
told them camera pics are comming out blurry theyll send you check
in the mail.but like you said canon eos 1d is something i have my
eye on if the price drastically drops.i played with it at the
camera show in nycity.would you buy the 2100uz for $499 even though
you have the 100rs?i figured for the price it might be worth having
the 2nd unit or would you get another 100rs for $599?
--
Jason Stoller [email protected]
Catching that special moment with a great camera
 
Well that is exactly what the E-100rs was designed for so I am sure it will do a good job. If the Uzi had higher shutter speeds and frame rates then it might be a contender for me. The fact that the E-100 supports dual media, the microdrives, has voice annotation for notes, and several others features made it a no brainer for me. Now if it had the same viewfinder as the E-10 and E-20, then I would be in Heaven!

Jason
jason ive tried just about every camera i had the g2 love it,also
sold my d30 thought the g2 took just as good pics,had the 995
another great camera i love the feel of 995.had the 4040z nice
camera but it seemed to write slow,had the e10 didnt like the
weight and focusing wasnt that good.the secret when your buying a
camera to avoid restocking fee if you have another camera in mind
as long as you exchange for another product theyll wave the
15%restocking fee at least thats how circuit city works.best buy i
told them camera pics are comming out blurry theyll send you check
in the mail.but like you said canon eos 1d is something i have my
eye on if the price drastically drops.i played with it at the
camera show in nycity.would you buy the 2100uz for $499 even though
you have the 100rs?i figured for the price it might be worth having
the 2nd unit or would you get another 100rs for $599?
--
Jason Stoller [email protected]
Catching that special moment with a great camera
--Jason Stoller [email protected] that special moment with a great camera
 
how does the voice annotation for notes work.what do you think olympus has up its sleeves after the e 20?how come they dont come out with a 35 mm style body like d1x or 1d
Jason
jason ive tried just about every camera i had the g2 love it,also
sold my d30 thought the g2 took just as good pics,had the 995
another great camera i love the feel of 995.had the 4040z nice
camera but it seemed to write slow,had the e10 didnt like the
weight and focusing wasnt that good.the secret when your buying a
camera to avoid restocking fee if you have another camera in mind
as long as you exchange for another product theyll wave the
15%restocking fee at least thats how circuit city works.best buy i
told them camera pics are comming out blurry theyll send you check
in the mail.but like you said canon eos 1d is something i have my
eye on if the price drastically drops.i played with it at the
camera show in nycity.would you buy the 2100uz for $499 even though
you have the 100rs?i figured for the price it might be worth having
the 2nd unit or would you get another 100rs for $599?
--
Jason Stoller [email protected]
Catching that special moment with a great camera
--
Jason Stoller [email protected]
Catching that special moment with a great camera
 
Gary see page 148 in your manual. You can also add a note to a still picture after its taken. There also is a jack for an external microphone. As far as Oly coming out with something like the Nikon or Canon, there is an Olydak (olympus/Kodak) combo in the works that will have interchangable lenses. From what I understand it will be a 6MP camera released sometime in the next year.

Jason
Jason
jason ive tried just about every camera i had the g2 love it,also
sold my d30 thought the g2 took just as good pics,had the 995
another great camera i love the feel of 995.had the 4040z nice
camera but it seemed to write slow,had the e10 didnt like the
weight and focusing wasnt that good.the secret when your buying a
camera to avoid restocking fee if you have another camera in mind
as long as you exchange for another product theyll wave the
15%restocking fee at least thats how circuit city works.best buy i
told them camera pics are comming out blurry theyll send you check
in the mail.but like you said canon eos 1d is something i have my
eye on if the price drastically drops.i played with it at the
camera show in nycity.would you buy the 2100uz for $499 even though
you have the 100rs?i figured for the price it might be worth having
the 2nd unit or would you get another 100rs for $599?
--
Jason Stoller [email protected]
Catching that special moment with a great camera
--
Jason Stoller [email protected]
Catching that special moment with a great camera
--Jason Stoller [email protected] that special moment with a great camera
 
Today I went back to Best Buy and looked at the D7 again. Best Buy
in my area has it priced at $999.
Jason,Go have a look at Max Lyon's picture gallery,somewhere on the Minolta Board(He uses a Dimage 7)& a Nikon.I think you will be impressed.Ask him about your concerns with the D7?Just a suggestion.But do go look at his work.It is awsome........Dale
 
Oh my guys, I am touched :)...what I haven't told you Maxven is that I've got the shipping covered. My daughters friend is a supervisor at DHL and so shipping will not be a concern..but I will remember the gift part..thanks Jason as always you are are always forthcoming with very helpful information.

Happy Shooting all...I haven't been around lately..I've slumming with the Nikon folk...loving my 5000..but I do drop buy periodically just to see what my old friend are doing ^.

Carmen


remember your advice Jason regarding the gift part.
If Carmen ( who is a sweetie) is willing to buy for you, just make
sure she ships it as a gift. I have a guy in holland that is a
buddy of mine and with the change over to the Euro dollar and a
recent purchase he made, he really got socked by Customs. Also if
it is a gift have her ship it to you Global priority express mail
and you will get it in 3 to 4 business days.

Believe it or not the wired remote is one of three things that I do
not own for my Oly camera's yet. I have all the other lenses and
two B-300's hehe.

The second thing I lack is the SA2 arm for use with the Tcon-300S
when I use that lens with the Lipo grip.

The last thing I do not have is the new hot shoe extention for the
E-20. Someone found that Canon makes a compatible hots shoe and
extention that communicates exactly the same as the Oly one so I
have been using that with the strobo frame camera flip bracket on
the E-20.

Jason
Carmen's offered to buy whatever I decide on in the US. We
correspond a lot by email and I have no reason to distrust her. I
still have high hopes for PMA in February and I'm in no hurry.
Maybe I can borrow the D7 from work on a regular basis over the
weekends to get me through the wait.

BTW, what's your take on the rumored Olydak? So far I've heard
it'll be a 5-6MP 4/3" CCD selling for about $1500 including one
lens. It was supposed to be introduced at PMA, but the interview
you posted with that Oly rep seemed to indicate that they weren't
ready yet.

Maxven

P.S.: I ordered the cabled remote for my E-100. Should be here on
Tuesday. You might get a kick reading about my problems getting it:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1008&message=2063649
Maxven if you decide to get one then what you should do is find
someone in the states that you trust, that you could send money to
and have them ship it as a gift so when it goes through customs you
do not get his with a VAT. I will be interested in what you really
think about the D7 once you really try it out. You might like the
EVI better than the E-100rs. If the focus through the one I
handled would have been sharp I know I would have liked the
viewfinder better.

Jason
--
Jason Stoller [email protected]
Catching that special moment with a great camera
 

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