E3 new pic

One of the primary points of emphasis when the 4/3rds format was jointly announced by Olympus and Kodak was the overall system's potential for compactness.
I don't think that is the whole point. The point was that the
E-System was developed from the ground up with no legacy strings
attached.
The whole "digital from the ground up" concept has no real meaning and never has. There is nothing stopping Canon and Nikon et. al. from designing for digital. They have been aggressively doing so since long before Olympus got into the interchangeable lens DSLR business. The fact that most of their designed-for-analog gear also works with digital cameras is a bonus not a drawback, even if there can be some specific drawbacks with some gear sometimes. They could come up with their own empty slogan: "Digital and Analog: The Best of Both".

The simple, incontrovertible fact is that most of the old Nikon/Canon stuff works just fine in the digital era. Roughly 95% of the world's professional photographers prove it everyday. I don't doubt that there are some theoretical advantages to the Olympus optical geometry, but if the "inferior" old systems are making better 30 x 40 prints -- and they are -- what difference does it make?

I'm not trying to sound harsh about Olympus -- I own an E-1, like it a lot, like the E-system, don't intend to change anytime soon, and would like to see Olympus continue to do well -- I like their innovative camera design mindset (and am bored to tears by the Canon/Nikon way of doing things). But I am impatient with empty marketing claims, no matter who makes them.
Sure, smaller size is one of the points...I would not build my
entire campaign on that point given that many Oly cameras are no
smaller than their counterparts.
Well, a) more Olympus cameras should be smaller than their counterparts (Olympus has failed to fully capitalize on this advantage) and b) despite not fully exploiting their size advantage, an Olympus system generally is, in fact, a fair bit smaller than a Nikon or Canon one, if you consider the lenses you'll need to cover equivalent angles-of-view.

And the E-1, until recently, was the only camera designed for hard use and serious work that was reasonable in size (in large part because it doesn't have a built-in vertical grip, thank God). The EOS 20D was a partial exception to that, and now the D200 and the Pentax K10D are also partial exceptions. But I hope the E-3, or whatever it is, continues in the reasonably-sized tradition of the E-1.
 
this is the pic discussed in another thread, but it hasn't a 4/3 mount, so probably an old prototype before E1.

 
Wow - bizarre. And people are complaining that the current mock-up is ugly!
 
I have not read all the replies, but it's not even a picture of a real camera, just a cgi image.
Why bother with it?

Kevin.
 
I don't buy it from your mouth or from their's.

I doubt that a group of people were sitting around thinking...

1 "You know what the camera world needs?"
2 "What?"
1 "Smaller DSLR cameras and lenses"
2 "Great idea...start up the drawings, and let's go to production"

Instead...I think it went something like this:

1 "You know what would make us more money?"
2 "What?"
1 "A digital SLR division"
2 "Great Idea...start up the drawings, and let's go to production"

Along the way, they realized:

1 "Hey guess what"
2 "What?"

1 "Our engineers have determined that this 4/3 system is the perfect blend of digital and optical performance"
2 "Oh Really?"
1 "Yes, and I think we can even make the cameras smaller"
2 "Oh Really?"

1 "Yes...but not that much smaller...people will still need to be able to hold the cameras and lenses comfortably"
2 "How much smaller?"
1 "Oh...about this much smaller ---> >
2 "That's not very small is it?"
1 "No, but one day, we can release the world's smallest DSLR"
2 "OK...let's go to market!!!"

And we all know the rest of the stroy.
 
I'm not denigrating your preference for a big camera here, but I
can't understand why you chose Olympus in that case.
Don't get me wrong here, I'm not saying that the only thing I'm interested in is size, but for certain situations, its an advantage. For other situations, its a DISadvantage. I don't have the luxury of being able to afford a different system for each different scenario and I use my cameras for a lot of different things!

The Oly system is a VERY good compromise all around and I really like the way I can have say... silent shooting with the E10, weatherproof and fast shooting with the E1, higher res and small/lightweight with the 300/500 - and stuff like flashes and remote releases all work together on all cameras.

The E1 with grip is a very nice size indeed. I don't particularly want anything much bigger, but I certainly DON'T want ONLY small little cameras to be available. It doesn't even make sense with lenses like the 35-100 or 90-250 ... they are just too big to balance and sit properly on small bodies.
The new mockup looks PERFECT. I just can't tell you how happy I am today.

G.
 
...a slightly higher magnification than the E-1 (which BTW is already perfect for me - the huge mag of my Dynax 7 actually made it harder to compose the scene as a whole)...

...AND a digital overlay, which DOESN'T display the sensor image. What it does display is focus point, histogram, highlight/lowlight blowout warnings, etc. ONTO the focus screen, perhaps even in colour.

So, you get all the benefits of both EVFs and OVFs together.

Of course an easier approach might be to have such info displayed to one side of the OVF image (kinda like the E-300, but a true dot-matrix area), which could also account for the huge viewfinder hump, but is less innovative and slightly less exciting IMHO).

Regards,

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I'm always trying to get into places to use as backdrops or whatever, and they hat anything that looks "official." HSE, right,s and WTF are you anyway? I silp an E500 body in one pocket and a lens in the other pocket and slide quietly in with the proles...

And in any case, any time one wishes to look "pro" one just slips on a second (or third) body. No need to schlep a brick around ALL the time.

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...a slightly higher magnification than the E-1 (which BTW is
already perfect for me - the huge mag of my Dynax 7 actually made
it harder to compose the scene as a whole)...
Indeed. I looked through an OM2n recently, and found it far too large with glasses! Not enough black around it to judge the composition. I find the E-1 perfect.
...AND a digital overlay, which DOESN'T display the sensor image.
What it does display is focus point, histogram, highlight/lowlight
blowout warnings, etc. ONTO the focus screen, perhaps even in
colour.

So, you get all the benefits of both EVFs and OVFs together.
This is what I've been after for some time. It could be the next real innovation that Oly does first...
Of course an easier approach might be to have such info displayed
to one side of the OVF image (kinda like the E-300, but a true
dot-matrix area), which could also account for the huge viewfinder
hump, but is less innovative and slightly less exciting IMHO).
Bruce
 
Take the ugliest parts of a Canomn EOS-3 and the E400 and that's what you end up with - have they ditched the top LCD and all the E1 buttonology? . I really hope that's not the E3 and the E3 is REALLY in the same body as the E1 !! Why fix something which isn't broken ?

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I can't get the link to work, but it still looks cgi to me. A real lens photograph with a computer generated body.
It just aint real.

Kevin.
 
Anyone notice the lack of an on camera flash?

With Canon you have to go all the way up to the 5D to lose the built-in, which leads me to believe that this new E may be in a similar class.....
 
It might be the kind of camera for the sort of silly British women who buy huge 4X4 to take their children to school and get in everyone's way...

Most women I know are sensible, educated people like me who like things - well, most things - to be compact...

Personally I'd like my E3 housed in a body the size of the E400.
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