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Olympus lens department sucks
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Keith Hatfull
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95% sure that the nice smooth bokeh is "simulated". Looks to me like a PS blur tool run right up to the wings and such at a low opacity for flow. If you look closely there's an "aura" around the head too, many 10s of pixels wide in which the "bokeh" is "funny". The "granularity" you see is the result of the low flow or opacity of the tool. Dead giveaway.
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Denny Colvin
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If you're going to PS a blurred background, it doesn't much matter what the lens' DOF was, now does it?
all best
kristian
Quality is, to my eye, very similar.
None of my more recent shots (with any of the cameras) have any
sharpening - I don't find the pro series Olys or the L series
Canons need it.
All WILL have noise though - inevitable consequence of heavy PP.
Easy enough to get rid of, but it doesn't bother me...
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I saw it around the head as well, but not as clearly as I see it around the wings. I did not want to make those claims as I was not nearly as sure as I am about the grain near the wings. I was going to suggest that he photochopped the bird into the scene...but decided that there was little benefit to doing that...
The photographer who took that picure was obviously not a pixel peeper...no pixel peeper would be able to live with those results ;-)
Louis_Dobson
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Archer S
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Now that I look closer (I don't pixel peep), I noticed all sorts of odd gradients running through the picture. Look at the "river" flowing SW from the head. I have no idea what that is, but if its from the camera, I'd return it.
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Raist3d
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I honestly dont see the pixel sharphness you are talking about. And I even see a super tiny hint of noise in the dark feathers - not that it really matters, I think its far fine- but wanted to point it out because of the context of the thread you bring.
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Raist3d
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Raist3d
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I am sorry but I disagree. This is even an ISO 1600 shot. The only think I did contrary to the usual is I used RAW and an automated false color cancellation from Oly Studio (even then maybe not, can't remember now). This is a 1280x960 shot, and has not been sharpenned - or done anything else in any shape or form.
If you are talking about jpegs then it's different particularly for the e-300, but the e-330 keeps details in jpegs pretty well.
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Raist3d
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If you are talking about jpegs then it's different particularly for the e-300, but the e-330 keeps details in jpegs pretty well.
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Raist3d
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Raist3d
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And no sharpening. Only false color cancelation (removes some chroma noise). And the fabled "useless" ISO 1600 LOL.
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Antonio Rojilla
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More pixel peeping...
Or is it simply tha you need to know you are in the winner team?
Oh, did you get paid by Canon to promote their products that hard? It seems so, if not, what a waste, because nobody cares what you like or use.
Regards.
And how many did you printed that large? How many did you send to Alamy? BTW, get 1Ds MKII or better, a MF back if you are SO serious, really.
Or is it simply tha you need to know you are in the winner team?
Oh, did you get paid by Canon to promote their products that hard? It seems so, if not, what a waste, because nobody cares what you like or use.
Regards.
Honestly, I don't think this guy even owns any olympus. Rather he is probably coming around with his PP photos trying to slam someone elses rig to make himself feel better. BTW this shot is cleaner and much more natural. Good work to hoever took it-- I wish you had photographed that raptor.
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shinndigg
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I see an overprocessed image, with STILL apparent noise, absolutely NO bokeh visible. Lousy shot
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shinndigg
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Anyone notice how kristian doesn;t want to talk now? Louis' pics were MUCH better. Check out his work at both sites. Excellent.
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shinndigg
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was at work now come home , the picture posted has noise around the wings , and the reason is becouse i was experinting with bluring the background , and posted this procesed image , and this image i posted only for showing details not background , i would like you to show me bird picture with fine details taken with olympus , i have oly. e-1 , e-300 , 14-54 m 50-200 , 1.4tc and i took my best shot with olympus , i dont say this camera is bad or something just that senzor cant resolve as much details as canon senzor can.
here is picture taken with e-1 +50-200mm +1.4tc:
(maybe somebody will remember this shot from past..)
and i will tell you if i had mine 350d i couldnt get this shot i am almost sure , the 350d would do focus on background. this is week point on canon.
you can see the rest of my photos at:
http://www.pbase.com/skynesher
all best
kristian
here is picture taken with e-1 +50-200mm +1.4tc:
(maybe somebody will remember this shot from past..)
and i will tell you if i had mine 350d i couldnt get this shot i am almost sure , the 350d would do focus on background. this is week point on canon.
you can see the rest of my photos at:
http://www.pbase.com/skynesher
all best
kristian
and i am sorry for posting the wrong example.
here i was trying to make blurer bg (experenting).
i blur the background with gausian blur and put more red on it (did this for fun , and i posted the wrong file , you can notice in name is -crvena- which meens red in my languge)
and the noise what you see is place where i didnt applay gausian blur , again this was for experementing , and i am sorry for posting the wrong picture.
dont shoot me becouse of that.
all i was trying to tell is true , and its from expirience of using two systems , and yes oly. senzor isnt on par with canons and canon AF is poor compared to e-1.
all best
kristian
here i was trying to make blurer bg (experenting).
i blur the background with gausian blur and put more red on it (did this for fun , and i posted the wrong file , you can notice in name is -crvena- which meens red in my languge)
and the noise what you see is place where i didnt applay gausian blur , again this was for experementing , and i am sorry for posting the wrong picture.
dont shoot me becouse of that.
all i was trying to tell is true , and its from expirience of using two systems , and yes oly. senzor isnt on par with canons and canon AF is poor compared to e-1.
all best
kristian
found one and there is many threads in past:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=13059853
and my pictures you can see:
http://www.pbase.com/skynesher
wishing all best
kristian
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=13059853
and my pictures you can see:
http://www.pbase.com/skynesher
wishing all best
kristian
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