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Phil - I was being flippant and facetious about using the nukes on a general population. It would be nice if all the radical Islam terrorist would label themselves as such and cordon themselves off in a covenient part of the world we we could easily deal with them. Then we'd have the easy answer & solution like so many assume we should have in dealing with them.

I have no information about the context of the photo. I simply find it distateful.
 
Packistan, Iran, N. Korea and others have them and I do believe would use them. If we do, they have nothing to loose.

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-tim
http://www.pbase.com/pdqgp
 
I smell a "Reuters job" on that photo.
kellert said:
how many media personalities mimic an Indian accent when they are
trying to be an islamo-fascist terrorist?
Phil Loughran said:
Its very unusual as I don't think the people in the photograph have
anything to do with the people perpetrating in the 911
atrocity...as most are probably of a different faith. too...

Was this a monument to dead relatives working in the towers?

Is this being posted because of ignorance of this fact? I am
confused by this. I remember reports of Americans attacking Hindu's
and Sikhs after 911 and the fear it brought them.

http://www.sikh.net/AOA/Sikh911.htm

"Remind all Americans that in the US, the men they see with turbans
and beards are Sikhs, and have no connection whatsoever to the
Muslims, Arabs of the Middle East, or Osama bin Laden. Sikhs are
not terrorists, nor have we ever been linked to any of the foreign
groups, which are attacking the US now, or have attacked the US in
the past."
mrmagoo1962 said:
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SubPixel got the quote wrong.

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

He managed to drop the essential word "essential."
skwid said:
SubPixel said:
"Those who are willing to give up their freedom for a little
temporary security, deserve neither freedom nor security"
Ben Franklin
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This situation sounds to me more like loosing little temporary
freedom for a big dose of temporary security?
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David Mazeau said:
So they'll need to figure out something for this "liquids" deal ...
some
technology for detecting it or whatever. Until then, everybody
needs to be patient. Not freaking out like a little 4 year old when
mommy says you can't bring the camera on the plane this time.>
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Yes, indeed. One danger - I think someone already mentioned it - is people potentially swallowing undetectable explosives (as happens with drugs), so countermeasures can't always be 100% reliable. Imagine the indignity and time needed for internal searches for everyone.

If Airlines and Western governments were really serious they'd suspend Political Correctness and ban entire groups of people from flying until the root problem (Isreal occupying Palestinian land without agreement and the associated vendettas from both sides) was resolved.

Patience is necessary at this time and not being able to carry on expensive cameras is a small price to pay in the context of saving thousands of lives.
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John.
 
I like that. Now instead of saying a picture has been "photoshopped" we can say it has been "Reutered"!

George
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Some people say I'm apothetic, but I don't care!
 
The security measures taken today are fine by me, if they were felt to be necessary and they are temporary.

However, eventually at some point we have to find a balance between convenience and safety. Those who claim any measure is justified if it makes us a little bit safer are talking nonsense.

We could completely eliminate deaths and injuries due to road traffic accidents tomorrow. Why don't we? Because it would be very very inconvenient. As a society, I guess we value the convenience of road travel more than the lives it costs. Similarly we could eliminate deaths due to smoking, drinking. We could pass all sorts of laws stopping poeple from doing... well, anything very much really. We would probably then be living in a society very much like the one fundamentalist Islaamists would like us to live in.
 
Ryan McDaniel said:
I suppose we should have "treated the cause" when the Nazis were
butchering Jews and the Japanese were blowing up Hawaii. Let's
see...why do they hate us? Why??? Were we not nice enough to them?
Do they not like our hair styles? So what if they're promising our
death and destruction...let's sit down, have a chat, try to
understand them.
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Ryan McDaniel said:
God I'm glad the WWII generation wasn't full of self loathing
wimps. Nobody sat around asking "why don't they like us" after
Pearl Harbor. No, they spent their time working to do so much
damage to Japan and Germany that those two countries would never,
EVER even DREAM of starting something again.
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I agree with you wholeheartedly.
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Milan
 
I agree, and I've said it on a number of occasions. The mad nuuters on one side are just as bad as the mad nutters on the other side, it's just that their methods are different. Religion is the root of all evil.

Somewhere someone mentioned Iraq - which puzzled me. The war with Iraq had nothing to do with terrorism, and certainly nothing to do with Al Qaeda and 9/11. However the aftermath now has a lot to do with terrorism and probably quite a lot to do with Al Qaeda.
 
Ryan McDaniel said:
God I'm glad the WWII generation wasn't full of self loathing
wimps. Nobody sat around asking "why don't they like us" after
Pearl Harbor. No, they spent their time working to do so much
damage to Japan and Germany that those two countries would never,
EVER even DREAM of starting something again.
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Maybe if both sides were like that we would not have had WWII at all.

Obviously humans are seriously flawed, that is what needs fixing.

Brian
 
1234george said:
I like that. Now instead of saying a picture has been
"photoshopped" we can say it has been "Reutered"!
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Roto Reutered. ;)

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From the begining, I found photography simple: Point the camera, then push the button. Then, after several weeks of practice, I discovered I get even better results when I turn the camera on and remove the lens cap.

 
Which Islamic theocracy? Don't forget when Shias and Sunnis (disclaimer: extremists) get bored killing Westerners, they can go back to their roots of killing each other!
Ian Yаtes said:
and there will be no more terrorists ever.
The sooner we all submit to Allah & the laws laid down in the
Q'uran, the sooner we can live in peace and harmony.
Yes, you are so right.
I hate the fact that Mr Bush & Mr Blair is trying to prevent our
having this idyllic lifestyle.

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Kristian Farren
http://kf3.net/gallery/
 
I want to agree with this - but the problem so far is that CNN and CBC (US/Canada) have put on airline people who have said the measure looks to be permanent. I'm not sure I believe them, but so far I've seen 3 different mucky-mucks saying it, and it would be a clever business move for them to try and implement this, so I worry.
McGus said:
oh would you guys just listen to yourselves. a temporary measure
has been introduced in the knowledge of an imminent threat and
you're all worried about camera equipment and the like.....why
don't you just calm down and let the situation become a bit clearer
before rushing to bleat about civil liberties, why can't i take my
camera and the like. Much better to have several thousand people
blasted into little bits over the atlantic eh!
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From the begining, I found photography simple: Point the camera, then push the button. Then, after several weeks of practice, I discovered I get even better results when I turn the camera on and remove the lens cap.

 
oh...those guys were dealt with under the laws of the land. This was widely discussed in the British media. Its OLD talk.

I think we should discuss the motivations for re-publishing these images ...what is the agenda of those that want to stir up more hatred/hurt. Members of one of the 'great' 3 religions of the region having another go at one of the others? Didn't someone turn the other cheek?

Sure we just had a raised level of security. Nobody has addressed why the picture of 911 and Sikhs was published, nor explained the context. In the US a film has been made about 911, some have been disgusted, some have praised it. This picture of Sikhs could be a memorial to lost relatives and not a celebration of destruction. Photo's as well a religious texts can be lifted out of context to justify anything. Put them IN context they can be more enlightening.
 
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