GR China report

Horic

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Just got back from a four week trip to China, along the Silk Road. GR-D did well in some punishing conditions. It's hot, dry and dusty on the edge of the Taklamakan desert. Sunny days with strong light and dark shadows really pushed the range of the sensor. The lens is difficult to clean; there's nowhere for the dust and grime to go but back into the lens assembly. Using the adapter and a filter to protect the lens is an option but that would mean a bigger case or carry/hold it all day and juggle your cameras - I chose to carry my 35mm film camera and keep the GR ready on the hip. On day 3 in Shanghai the adjust button became unstable and then after about 2 weeks it failed completely - when the wheel was pressed GR would slow down and lock-up until turned off and restarted. This wiped out quick adjustments to WB/image set/iso - not such a big problem shooting B/W outside in sunny weather, but a bit of a hassle after the sun goes down and in the city. Missed a few moments but managed limp home. Also found some dead pixels and three noticeable spots/smudges on the sensor. Only used the 21mm adapter a few times, again, because it makes GR too big for the case on your belt and it's a bit of a pain putting on and taking off while you're walking around. If you use the GR as your main camera then the adapter might be an option but since I was shooting film as well I had to keep things pretty tight. Same goes for the viewfinder, which wasn't used at all! Still feels a bit weird framing with the monitor but it's so quick and it opens up so many possibilities/angles that just wouldn't happen with a film camera. The grid display is also very useful in certain situations, 'Snap' focus is excellent.

Found that GR will overexpose most 'point and shoot' street shots no matter what metering is used. -1/3 to -1 exp was almost always dialed in...seems that with digital it's a choice between blown highlights or no detail in the shadows. By the end of the trip, because of the harsh lighting, I'd set the metering to 'multiple' adjusting exposure with the zoom button; it gave the best 'average' metering. Being able to quickly shift between colour and B/W is also a great feature. Ended up taking a lot of B/W - don't have to worry about WB + overexposed highlights don't look so bad and the heavy grain at iso400 also doesn't look too bad in B/W. 28mm+no mirror+tiny shutter and solid in-the-hand feel means that iso64 is possible down to about 1/10 of a second. Using RAW on the street isn't for me so I only used jpeg files. I've read quite a bit about 'sharpening' (but still don't really get it) so I shot in 'normal' image-setting thinking that I'd work on them later. The files look okay as they are - no sharpening was applied to these images so they might look a bit soft/natural. I used photoshop to adjust exposure on a few images; these have 'level' or 'exp' in the file name. I tended to underexpose in-camera. On the whole I'm pretty happy with the results though I haven't made any prints yet. Despite a few problems, this is a wonderful digital camera to have.

Here's the China album: http://horic.zenfolio.com/ (free trial account)
Images in this gallery have been resized to 7 inches on the long side @ 100dpi.

the Uyghur people have a rich culture and are the majority 'minority' people in Xinjiang. They are beautiful people with very special sense of humor. Yak-met

Horic
 
Hi,

Really enjoyed myself looking at your shots. REally good! I hope your GRD is fine now.
 
I think your images here are truly outstanding regardless of the camera used. You have a fantastic eye and these are some of the best images I have seen for a long time. Well done.

I'm only sorry a wider audience has not seen them, or commented on them as they deserve to be seen.

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Peter Bendheim
http://www.imagessouthafrica.co.za
 
Thanks for the encouragement everyone. Sorry for the late reply - I've had trouble logging into dcreview + I thought this thread was dead.

I like taking photos of people - the camera is another way open up a connection when languages are different. That's been on of the nice things about finally getting a digital camera - if there's time you can show them their picture on the lcd and they smile. I carried a polaroid camera this time and gave out some photos - be careful doing this, it can cause quite a stir. I took 3 packs of film thinking that I'd give out one polaroid a day but returned with 1 pack of film - unless you're prepared to carry it everywhere you'll wish that you hadn't left it in the hotel OR you'll have to go back and get it and then return and try to find the people you want to give a polaroid to. This is where the digital comes in handy; you show people you're looking for on the lcd and they'll help you.

The China album at zenfolio will probably disappear today or tomorrow. It's only a two week trial account and my credit car is out of juice for another week or two. I've decided to unify my online albums and add some new ones. I did think about building a personal website but hosting will cost $90-120 per year. Smugmug looks good but couldn't get a trial account without a credit card. Digitalrailroad and photoshelter are more for professional photogs looking to sell their images. I think I'll get a domain name and link it to zenfolio. @$40/year (+$15 for the domain name customisation) it's a good deal. I'm not really into online slide shows but zen's is really nice. Their customer service also seems polite and personable. Dotphoto is a free service and it's pretty good - easy to customise and organise with 'drop and drag' feature but images aren't a big as zenfolio's. I made a dotphoto test album to compare the two sites: http://horic.dotphoto.com

I'm really amazed by the response to the China album and the number of people who have visited the site. Only two people have seen the 4x5 prints of the colour film I shot, no one has seen the black and white ('coz it hasn't been developed yet -no develper :-(.

I don't blame people for sitting on the fence about getting a GR. People always think about 'deal breakers' instead of 'deal makers', like, does it feel good in your hand and do YOU (not some reviewer or some other forum member) like the images it can produce. Is the lens wide enough? The GR is a little expensive but if you use if for a long time it's probably worth it. There are quality control issues but Ricoh Japan care for their cusomers. That's the feeling I got when I visited the Ricoh service center. I also felt a sense of permanence, something that's hard to find in today's digital camera market. They are an enigmatic company, deeply conservative, and yet they've made some photography design classics. Perhaps the GR-D will become one of them. My GR1-s hasn't seen much film since I got the GR digital - it's sooo quiet. Better stop now and get back to scanning.

Horic
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I'm currently just that: sitting on the fence deciding to get the GR-D or not. The camera in itself suits my purposes just fine. We currently have a digital snapshot camera (Sony W1) and a DSLR (Olympus E1). I'd like to have a pocketable camera I can bring at occasions where a DSLR is too large, but that would still give me control over the image it captures. I really enjoy wideangle photography, and think the amount the GR-D gives you would suit me fine.

So get one, you say? I alsmost did, but... if I were sure that there wouldn't be quality control issues with this camera, I'd get one. But the constant stories I hear about hardware failure have me in doubt. I don't like paying for a camera that spends part of its warranty period in a service centre. And most of the owners of the GR-D I've encountered online have had stories of bad quality control, even when most remain happy with their camera. So it has me worried a bit, and I'll have to chew this over some more.
 
fair enough Marlof. If you didn't already have a digital camera I'd say get one. To be honest, I think I've fallen for the hype - every time I see the images people make with ordinary compact digitals I think, "Damn, why did I pay so much for a GR?" I also bought the full set of acce$$ies. But, when I see a low quality image I don't think, 'Wow, I'm glad I bought a GR." Most low quality images are the result of human error. I say, roll the dice, get yourself a Ricoh. It may not give you better images but it might just deepen your interest in photography and inspire your creativity. Framing with the lcd was an epiphany for me but how many digital cameras have an lcd?
 
Love your photos Horic, some really great shots in there. I've been using the GR for about 6 months now and can only agree with all of your observations. I must fall into the category of a user that's had problems but is still happy, as soon after purchasing I noticed there was some dust or something similar visible in shots above f4 (my retailer kindly exchanged the unit). The exposed mechanism in the lens assembly is a bit of a dust trap, but I think the positive's well outweigh the negatives and I've had no problems with the replacement so far.

Have you considered using Flickr to host your photos? Inexpensive and 2gb's of upload per month. (And a good number of other GR users on there too!).
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John Carolan
http://www.johncarolan.co.uk
http://www.flickr.com/photos/johncarolan/
 
John, I put my Cambodia album on Flickr. It's a great service and a growing community. Trouble is, the look can't be customised and the interface is a bit 'click heavy'. I'm looking for a simple front page with thumbnails for each album that open into a gallery. I just had a quick peek at your personal (johncarolan.co.uk). Very, very, nice. Great work. What an interesting project - how many chaperone's do you photograph? After I finish this I'm going to make a cup of tea and return for a closer look.

BTW, have you seen Peter Bendheim's work? He responed earlier on this thread and left a link. Amazing. I dreamt I was in Africa the other night...(really)

Hope to see more of your work in the future.

Horic
 
Thanks for the positive words. I had a look at Peter's site as well, you are quite right, great work, I particularly liked the People and Cities galleries. (Nice site design too Peter if you are reading this).

I agree Flickr probably isn't the best solution in terms of interface but it's good for general use, and as somewhere you can 'point' to. How about Pbase then...?
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John Carolan
http://www.johncarolan.co.uk
http://www.flickr.com/photos/johncarolan/
 
pbase is a good. In web terms they have some history. Good for people seeking feedback and gear talk. Over the weekend I made some webpages with jalbum and actually used the pbase skin as a starting point. It was the best of a pretty ordinary selection. Decent hosting is going to cost about $100/year.

I've pretty well decided on zenfolio. Basic $25/year for 1gig + 1gig for every year. Unlimited $40/year. They're a young company but they seem to have their act together. We'll see if their prices may increase and if they can manage inevitable growing pains. I'm not sure what their bandwidth ceilings are but probable much more than I'll ever need. Read a very detailed comparison between zenfolio and smugmug here: http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=34259

Both are good but zen is a bit cheaper, especially if you want to use your own domain name. To use your own host name with mug you'd have to buy into their pro account ($149/year). Mug also seems more geared towards users who want to sell or print images. I use an asterisk here because links to smugmug accounts have been banned from this site. (:?) This had nothing to do with my choice. Zen just seems to have a nicer viewer interface. Also, I'd rather be zen than smug :-). Ultimately we'll all have our own servers and online storage won't be such an issue.
 
I loved these photographs - they are absolutely great!! but agree that though the GRD is a great camera, these photos show that it is definitely the photographer & the photographer's eye that really makes them outstanding photos.

This one - http://horic.zenfolio.com/p67532489/?photo=870111010 is wonderful - reminded me of a film called Urga or Close to Eden.
I'm jealous!
I like the look of the zenfolio & might try a trial account ..
thanks for sending the link to the photos & the site
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http://www.fototime.com/inv/A57B49CE461949C
 

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