FL40 flash bracket advantage?

blang · Nov 20, 2001

Vance said:
Hey Blang,

Haven't tried it with the Lipo yet, but it appears to have enough
room, even with the cannon hotshoe mount flash cable.

It will rotate to where the flash is still over the camera for
portrait shots.

I'll try to check it out some more tonite when I get home from
work, and possibly even get a picture of it for you with all the
gear together. )

Vance.

Vance
I appreciate your trouble.

regards,
blang

Diane B · Nov 20, 2001

blang wrote:
. They have a comfortable foam grip and a tripod mountable

blang said:
base.

As I said below---DUH!!! How did I miss that?!? and the 120 also. I guess I read it and it just passed through without registering LOL. I have the B & H catalogs out (but haven't found the Strobos in them yet) and was about to call them. Thanks to you and David---I saved myself a bit of embarrassment (altho' not on the forum, I guess smile )

Diane

Vance · Nov 20, 2001

I did notice that they have a longer post (12") listed as well. So if the 8" post isn't enough.

This thing is great. It's light weight aircraft aluminum, but sturdy as all get out.

Vance.

blang said:
Vance said:

Hey Blang,

Haven't tried it with the Lipo yet, but it appears to have enough
room, even with the cannon hotshoe mount flash cable.

It will rotate to where the flash is still over the camera for
portrait shots.

I'll try to check it out some more tonite when I get home from
work, and possibly even get a picture of it for you with all the
gear together. )

Vance.

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Vance
I appreciate your trouble.

regards,
blang

Vance · Nov 20, 2001

Just did some quick measurements of camera here at work.

With Lipo grip, camera and cannon off-camera shoe cord 2 attached, I get a grand total of 7.5" height.

So I'm thinking it might be tight, but still workable with the 8" post model.

Vance.

Vance said:
This thing is great. It's light weight aircraft aluminum, but
sturdy as all get out.

Vance.

blang said:

Vance said:

Hey Blang,

Haven't tried it with the Lipo yet, but it appears to have enough
room, even with the cannon hotshoe mount flash cable.

It will rotate to where the flash is still over the camera for
portrait shots.

I'll try to check it out some more tonite when I get home from
work, and possibly even get a picture of it for you with all the
gear together. )

Vance.

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Vance
I appreciate your trouble.

regards,
blang

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DF · Nov 20, 2001

http://www01.bhphotovideo.com/default.sph/FrameWork.class?FNC=ProductActivator__Aproductlist_html___142741___STB3510___REG___CatID=0___SID=EA7FF9F8590

This one looks like a real possibility too.

David

blang · Nov 20, 2001

Diane:

I just called Olympus, I spoke to a very informative person who actually suggested that the Stroboframe bracket is actually better than the Olympus bracket, not only because the Stroboframe allows the flash to turn, but because as it always keeps the flash above the lens it minimizes shadows, where the Olympus can cause a cast as it is off to the side.

The new Olympus hotshoe #FLCB05 is the one that would replace the Canon hotshoe for the Stroboframe bracket, unfortunately it's not out yet, supposed to be this month (B&H has it on their site but it's out of stock).

This would allow the built in flash to rise all the way without interference.

Hope this helps, I just hope the Stroboframe 120 can be used with the LiPo Grip.

blang

Diane B · Nov 20, 2001

blang said:
Diane:

I just called Olympus, I spoke to a very informative person who
actually suggested that the Stroboframe bracket is actually better
than the Olympus bracket

blang said:
Hope this helps, I just hope the Stroboframe 120 can be used with
the LiPo Grip.

Thanks Blang. I just ordered the Strobo 120, FL-40 flash and the Canon shoe cord 2 from B & H. I checked prices elsewhere (planned on 17th St for flash and cord, but their shipping costs outweigh the difference in price) and decided to buy it all one place with one low shipping. I've purchased from B&H before so know things will go well. I too hope the LiPo fits, but for now I'm using several sets of 1600 mah and the 1 hour recharger. I can buy a LOT of batteries for the difference LOL. I also looked at the Digipower pak Jim recommended but need to find all the infomation post about them before I buy. Look like a nice alternative, but am wondering about battery usage with the flash. Well, we'll see soon smile .

Diane

DF · Nov 20, 2001

blang said:
blang wrote:
I just called Olympus, I spoke to a very informative person who
actually suggested that the Stroboframe bracket is actually better
than the Olympus bracket, not only because the Stroboframe allows
the flash to turn, but because as it always keeps the flash above
the lens it minimizes shadows, where the Olympus can cause a cast
as it is off to the side.

The new Olympus hotshoe #FLCB05 is the one that would replace the
Canon hotshoe for the Stroboframe bracket, unfortunately it's not
out yet, supposed to be this month (B&H has it on their site but
it's out of stock).

This would allow the built in flash to rise all the way without
interference.

Hope this helps, I just hope the Stroboframe 120 can be used with
the LiPo Grip.

blang

blang,

Very helpful. Thanks.

I was just about to post a message asking about the difference between the FL-CB02 and FL-CB05 cables. You have verified my suspicion that the CB05 is a new one......which hopefully will work with the Stratos and Stroboframe brackets. If so, that would make it unnecessary to purchase the Canon cable.

Here's the Oly webpage with brief (and unhelpful) descriptions:

http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_section/cpg_product.asp?p=16&bc=3&product=714&fl=5

As you say, B&H lists the CB05, but not yet in stock.

Thanks again,

David

DF · Nov 20, 2001

.....you're going to love the FL-40. You might want to buy a Lumiquest bouncer or softbox for it, if you don't already have them.

I think I'm going to buy the Stratos 10 inch post bracket, along with the Olympus CB05 cord (when it's available).

The trouble with the Canon cord is that you have to file some of the plastic base off of it if you want to be able to fully use the built-in flash along with the FL-40.

Presumably the new Oly cord will allow the built-in flash to fully pop up.

David

Diane B · Nov 20, 2001

DF said:
.....you're going to love the FL-40. You might want to buy a
Lumiquest bouncer or softbox for it, if you don't already have them.

I think I'm going to buy the Stratos 10 inch post bracket, along
with the Olympus CB05 cord (when it's available).

The trouble with the Canon cord is that you have to file some of
the plastic base off of it if you want to be able to fully use the
built-in flash along with the FL-40.

Presumably the new Oly cord will allow the built-in flash to fully
pop up.

David

I'm sure I will smile . I have the Canon 420EX for my G1 and it makes all the difference. Yes, have the Lumiquest Promax and a WEst? softbox. Lost my little Stofen Bounces which I really liked too, but don't think they would fit this flash anyhow.

I looked at the Stratos also at B&H but just wasn't sure. Wish I could have seen them. Of course, guess with B&H I could have returned/exchanged without any trouble. Oh, well. Looking forward to getting them and I would think maybe Friday since our Fed Ex from NYC is quite fast.

Diane

Moon · Nov 20, 2001

DF,

Nothing scrapes when I rotate. By tight, I mean that the top of the Canon cable is close to the outside grip of the frame. It does not obstruct the grip on the frame though. The only frustrating part is the fact that the secondary shutter release is a little obstructed by the base plate on the frame. I just reach my finger around it, no big deal. This would be the same on most models of frame, because most have base plates.

DF said:
DF said:

Moon wrote:
Not trying to be combative, but I use the Stroboframe Camera-Flip
with the LiPo and the Canon cable. It is a little tight, but it
does work. Just FYI.

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Could you please be a little more specific about what you mean by
"a little tight"? For example, does anything scrape against
anything else when you rotate the camera?

Thanks,

David

Vance · Nov 20, 2001

Don't forget we're coming up on a holiday. ;o)

Delivery might be a bit slow later this week.

Vance.

charles gage · Nov 20, 2001

Hello. Stroboframes, brackets are good. I have a few but dont use them, They make the camera too heavy (for me anyway). I carry a light weight stand with a flash and radio slave. You can raise it up to a height comparable to studio placement. If there's a light colored wall opposite your flash (which should be coming in a little from the side) it can act as a fill. Its a little awkward to carry a stand, but for me its not as awkward as hefting up a heavy flash and frame every time I want to take picture, and it does give better results, i.e. more natural shadows, background shadows lowered or out of sight, less of an amatuer look. Ther are situations where the stand isnt practical. That being said, do what works for you.

blang · Nov 20, 2001

I just came back from B&H, where I picked up the Stroboframe 120 and the Canon hotshoe cord.

I asked the salesman about the Stratos frame but he recommended the Stroboframe, anyway it was so crowded that I just wanted to get out of there so I'll check out the Stratos bracket tomorrow when I can go earlier.

Funny, the Canon shoe cord 2 had a different part# than both of the part#'s on Dave Weikels web site (mfr# 2391A001)

Anyway when I asked the salesman if it will fit with the LiPo Grip he said just go home & try it and if it doesn't just bring it back, from the looks of it it looks like it should but I won't know till tomorrow.

I hope the new Olympus shoe cord will be out within two weeks, then I'll just change the Canon for it.

Now I have to open the other toys I picked up for the E20!

Having B&H 3 blocks from where I work is both a good and bad thing (too tempting), I just thought that Santa should come a little early this year!

regards,
blang

Jim N'AZ · Nov 20, 2001

Diane, The question as to whether the Stroboframe will accomodate the LiPo is a good one. Only the 120 frame sets the camera mount point behind the strobe mount point and so you could/can mount anything to the base of the camera and still clear the upper bracket. The 350 model places the camera directly under the flash mount point. Just one more reason why the 120 is the more applicable frame for me over the 350 model. Regards, Jim N'AZ

Diane B said:
Diane B said:

base.

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As I said below---DUH!!! How did I miss that?!? and the 120 also.
I guess I read it and it just passed through without registering
LOL. I have the B & H catalogs out (but haven't found the Strobos
in them yet) and was about to call them. Thanks to you and
David---I saved myself a bit of embarrassment (altho' not on the
forum, I guess smile )

Diane

Rich16740 · Nov 20, 2001

Okay I have the stroboframe 350 and the 3030 head it does work with the LiPo grip.Now the problem is if I us the camera on my tripod with the stroboframe 350 when I want to go in the portrait mode the flash is now beside the camera. Unless I am doing something wrong. I can still bounce, but it is off to the side. I think that the Newton would have been a better choice,but at $200.00 it was just too high. Rich

Jim N' AZ said:
Diane B said:

Jim N'AZ said:

base.

Click to expand...

As I said below---DUH!!! How did I miss that?!? and the 120 also.
I guess I read it and it just passed through without registering
LOL. I have the B & H catalogs out (but haven't found the Strobos
in them yet) and was about to call them. Thanks to you and
David---I saved myself a bit of embarrassment (altho' not on the
forum, I guess smile )

Diane

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Diane B · Nov 20, 2001

blang said:
Having B&H 3 blocks from where I work is both a good and bad thing
(too tempting), I just thought that Santa should come a little
early this year!

Good grief blang. That would be a terrible temptation for me. Our camera stores here are terrible and so I buy online. That makes me consider all my purchases a bit--no temptation in front of me LOL.

Diane

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