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I just received... connected, calibrated, a 24" monitor.

The 24" wide aspect advantage.... full screen view of a photo with plenty of room for toolbars!

It's a large improvement especially with the size improvement over a square 19 or 20 inch screen... remember images arent square and a wide aspect screen really enhances the desktop space!

Also... I opted for the Samsung 244T over the Dell....

Why... 1 No dead pixels. 2 Compete control over all the aspects required to properly calibrate the LCD panel for editing. 3 Under $1500

(Samsung offers monitor control software Dell does not and Samsung keeps the better 24in panels for their units they give Dell the rest.)

I am very very pleased as I could never get the color correction using XBrite/Monoco right using the other LCDs (Dell) because I didnt have full control over RGB, Brightness, Contrast etc that I had with Viewsonic and Sony CRTs.

Side by side to my calibrated CRT the LCD is much better in my opition and equal in color accuracy and shadow detail.
 
Oh I am serious. Why don't you buy both get a dull card and compare them with some serious screen tests?

However, here are some quick finds I found. Aside from the viewing angle being bad on the Dell but who cares since I use it as a monitor and sit in FRONT of it the rest of the Dell specs BLOW the Apple away.

Look, I was going to get the Apple 23" as it was a nice Flat Screen then I discovered the Dell, was able to test the two before buying and went with the better one with a added bonus of being $800 when I got it not $1200-1300.

Here are a quick few finds...

http://www.barefeats.com/lcd

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1774272,00.asp

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=881791&highlight=dell+%3Cbr%20/%3Eapple

http://www.hdforindies.com/2005/05/mikes-first-side-by-side-testing-of

...Now you can't be serious for actually questioning me? COMPARE THE SPECS AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY MEAN. Get over your brand loyalty and admit when something is better.
 
Actually, I think you mean HDCP. The 3007 specs don't indicate HDCP support on the DVI-D interface. There is no HDMI interface.

I like the idea of the monitor, but I'd rather not put that kind of money into a display that likely won't play next gen content (requiring HDCP).
 
craptacular said:
If you wait a few weeks, Dell will come out with new LCDs. The dell
3007 will be out this week. It is a 30" monster that rivals Apple's
30 incher. There will also be a 2407 which will introduced later. I
think the monitors ending with -7 will have HDMI compliance on the
video signal; this is only important if you plan to feed the
monitors DVD signals from sources that enforce HDMI. For example,
the upcoming Windows Vista will only enforce HDMI. Personally, I
feel that HDMI can kiss my ass.
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Do you mean HDCP? HMDI has nothing to do with content protection - it's just a type of cable technology; I believe it's nothing more than DVI bundled with audio signals in the same cable.

Cheers
Ryan

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Cuban wedding, North Yorkshire landscapes
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Donald Cooper said:
For photo editing I'd go for the 1920 only if you're big into
landscapes. Otherwise I'd get a 21" pivot for portrait shots. Most
of the time you lose a lot of pixels on the top and bottom of the
screen and not many on the sides, so starting with 1600 sure beats
1200 for all portrait shots.
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IIRC the 24" Dell also pivots. Bigger is better given all else is equal, no?

Cheers
Ryan

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Cuban wedding, North Yorkshire landscapes
http://ryan.li/
 
I saw just now on Anandtech.com that the 3007 does have HDCP. That's really really good news.

Also, the panel is newer than the one in the 30" Apple Cinema. The Dell boasts better CR and faster response times than the Apple as a result...
 
I have the same CRT and 2005FPW side by side, and guess what, 2005FPW is better in gamut (that is - it can produce more usable colors than the CRT). Both calibrated with GretagMacbeth i1d2. Accuracy is irrelevant, but if I were to compare, the CRT of course has more drastic adjustments (and the temperature controls are off), therefore it's less accurate by certain people's definition of accurate.

2405 is a different technology (and 90% of the large LCD monitors), I believe it's MVA/PVA, whereas 2005PW is S-IPS.

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Regards,
Marius
 
I'm looking at the 214T, how do you like it? How accurate do you fell the colors are. I run an older 19 inch Samsung and a 19 inch CRT, I am reluctant to move to dual LCD becasue of the fact that LCD is not as good as CRT and the photo LCD will be at a slight angle to me and LCDs suck unless you are looking dead on at them.
Steve_Horn said:
I have just got a Samsung 214T which is a 1600x1200 21 inch.

You can never have enough real estate on the screen. so if I could
have afforded a 1900x1200 I would have got it.

I have also got a cheapie small lcd for a second display. Works great.

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Steve Horn
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I've been using such configuration for 3 years now and this is really not expencive to get 2x19" of good quality.

If you are using PC it's best to have both identical displays as the Win XP system is not able to manage two independent color profiles for two displays so will have to serve them with a single color profile for both.
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Bartek
 
The colours of the 214T look good to me. It gives a very good greyscale on mono pictures. My old CRT was very poor on grey scale, even after profiling with a Gretag eye one.

I have never felt the need to use the Gretag yet on my 214, the colours and the brightness setting at black look just right. With the default setting you get a very contrasty picture (brightness at white). That suits me fine because I like looking at bright pictures. I love projected colour slides - to me, prints are always rather dull unless you hold them under a bright light.

There are other standard settings on the 214 that are easy to select and they tame the contrast.

There is very little colour change with off-axis viewing. There is a little bit of contrast change with vertical off-axis, but it is easy to move the screen on the stand.

I am very happy with my 214T, sharpness is really excellent. My only regret is that I did not go for the wide (1900x1200) version.

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Steve Horn
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thanks! I think I'm going to pass on a new CRT for now, milk mine a few more months and look at this Samsung maybe then in a year or 2 when the prices of the LaCie and Eizo LCds drop to closer to $1k I may pick one of those up to use for photos and make the 214T the main display then.
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