macro lovers - what focal length do you like?

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If you could choose any focal length for your only macro lens, what would it be? You certainly don't want your camera jammed up against the subject, but you don't want it so long you need to tripod. I see macros come from anywhere to 35 to over 100 MM. Specify the crop factor you are considering as well.

For example, the 100MM F2.8 macro is a great lens, but w/a 1.6 crops that almost a telephoto - might be tough to hold on a small object.
 
putting a 100mm on a APSc sensor doesn't change the min focus distance necessary to get 1:1, but might let you fill the frame with 1:2 shots.

Depending on the shooting situation,and how well i can brace myself 100mm on APSc can be easy or hard. Usually its and issue of leaning in or out and moving the focus plane too much. That being said, pics of flowers are usually much easier (if there's no wind!) then pics of bugs.
 
I'm far, far, far from being a macro expert. My only lens is the 100/2.8, which I love. I use it on my 20D and 300D, both 1.6x crops.

I've had success with it mounted on a tripod, taking shots of flowers as well as handheld, chasing a skittering ladybug down a branch.

Plus it doubles as an excellent portrait lens, as long as I can be outside!

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100mm on 1.6 if i can only have one

although the 60mm EF-s is a nice idea.....
and a set of extension tubes will make any lens a macro........
 
Not quite off topic, but being out of SLR photography for many years, I'd forgotten that you could use extension tubes for macro (presumably somewhat cheaper than getting a macro lens, although I don't suppose Canon ones will be cheaper based on their horrendous rip-off battery grip cost).

What are the issues using these? How big/long do you get and presumably it affects focal length and crop factor maybe ?

Are there any ruiles of thumb.
 
I'm willing to use the 180L macro is you pay for it :)

I have the 100mm macro and love it. Sometimes it is too short. If I need to get closer to skidish bugs, the 100mm is too short.
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My all-time favorite macro lens is Canon's 200 f/4, which still resides on my F-1. I always use a tripod for macros, since sharpness is critical and DoF is minimal. So, if I were buying a macro for my 20D, I'd get the 100 mm. I think the 180 might be a little too long on a 1.6x crop body, but if I had a FF camera, that 's the one I would go for.

I like the longer focal lengths for a couple reasons. One, it gives me the ability to keep a distance, which makes lighting easier. If you have to get too close, you can interfere with the light. Two, it allows me to be more selective about the background, due to the narrow angle of view.
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I have the Sigma 105 Macro, and I love it. Longer would be nice, but the longer macro lenses such as the 150 Sigma or 180 Canon are a bit too heavy. The 100 Canon or 105 Sigma are very good compromises for the APS-C cameras. As for shorter macros such as 50 or 60mm, they are fine although you need to get pretty close for 1:1.

jgb
If you could choose any focal length for your only macro lens, what
would it be? You certainly don't want your camera jammed up against
the subject, but you don't want it so long you need to tripod. I
see macros come from anywhere to 35 to over 100 MM. Specify the
crop factor you are considering as well.

For example, the 100MM F2.8 macro is a great lens, but w/a 1.6
crops that almost a telephoto - might be tough to hold on a small
object.
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On a 1.6 crop factor I'd take 50-105 mm for flowers and 150-200 for butterflies. For many other critters the 90-105 might be best. If you want to handle all of those with one lens, the middle range is probably the best.
 
If you could choose any focal length for your only macro lens, what
would it be? You certainly don't want your camera jammed up against
the subject, but you don't want it so long you need to tripod.
If you get serious about macro, you will have to use a tripod, a flash setup, or both. I know that people do get decent results without a tripod, but they are almost always using flash to make up for it. Focusing and DOF are so hard to control handheld. I thought my tripod and head were fine until I got interested in (obsessed with?) macro. Now I've upgraded to a gear head and will be getting a better tripod soon, too.

Oh, and I put a Rebel XT with a Sigma 150 macro on top. I really cannot recommend the lens highly enough.

There is another factor to consider, too, if you plan to use the lens for anything other than macro. I already had the Canon 17-85 IS and the 50 1.8 when I got my macro lens, so a longer focal length seemed useful for me, given that I didn't have anything over 85mm. I've used the Sigma 150 for portraits and even sports occasionally. It's not the best solution for this (though it does take very nice portraits), but it's what I have for now.

Chris
 
For dragonflies, butterflies and such - you cannot beat the Canon 300/4 L IS. On a monopod, 25mm ext tube, maybe even 1.4x. Subject to hood distance is about 34". I shoot in sunlight without flash at ISO 400 - run it through Neat Image later. If I suddenly see a crane or eagle fly overhead, I take out the ext tube and keep shooting.
 
I have the Canon 100mm Macro along with a Canon MR-14EX. It's used on 20D and 5D bodies. I usually find myself wanting more focal length, even on the 20D, than less.
 
If I had to choose just one focal length, it would be around 100 mm, but a lot depends on what you intend to shoot. 100 mm is a good all round length for general-purpose macro macrophotography.

One responded claimed that a tripod was a necessity – I don't know how one could take insects on a tripod, unless they were dead. I use a tripod for flowers, but still use flash. The slightest breeze is enough to cause blur so I need additional light to get a decent shutter speed and sufficient dof.

The EF 50 mm f/2.5 I find I only use for copy stand type work nowadays.

I prefer the EF-S 60 mm for flora and the occasional portrait. The 100 mm is too long for whole plants and I find the 60 mm lens reduces the need for lens changes.

The 100 mm f/2.8 is a great general-purpose macro lens. I use it for small flowers, flower parts, insects, and etc.

For flying insects such as damsel, dragon, and butterflies, I which I had more working distance than the 100 mm gives me. But these insects are much larger than the sensor so 1:1 isn't necessary. A good close focusing telephoto lens, any good tele with an extension tube, or perhaps a good tele-zoom maybe better for these.

The 150 mm Sigma, is by all accounts a excellent lens, but it doesn't have much more working distance than the 100 mm canon.

Nikon has a 200 mm macro lens, although I don't know whether it is still in production.
For example, the 100MM F2.8 macro is a great lens,
but w/a 1.6 crops that almost a telephoto
  • might be tough to hold on a small object.
At close focusing distances, i.e. at or near 1:1, there is no noticeable difference between handholding a 60 mm lens and a 100 mm lens. The lateral components of handshake have a much greater impact than do the rotational (angular) ones. At normal distances camera shake is magnified by the narrow angle of telephoto lenses, this is not so true at close distances.

Brian A.
 
If you could choose any focal length for your only macro lens, what
would it be? You certainly don't want your camera jammed up against
the subject, but you don't want it so long you need to tripod. I
see macros come from anywhere to 35 to over 100 MM. Specify the
crop factor you are considering as well.

For example, the 100MM F2.8 macro is a great lens, but w/a 1.6
crops that almost a telephoto - might be tough to hold on a small
object.
I like my Tamron 90 macro very much--almost always used on a tripod. Since its 1:1, great for small objects--but, as I said, mostly on tripod though I have used it handheld--see below (10D ISO400, f/7.1 1/40s--handheld)



This one below is on tripod 20D f/16 1/25s ISO 400 with Kenko ext. tubes



(BTW--looking at it here, I need to go back and clone out that little black spot on the iris--though it was there--its distracting I think)

I sometimes use other lenses with ext. tubes--but they are much more difficult to use IMO--as was the 20D one above--I need focusing rails really when I use tubes LOL.

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And it's not too long w/a 1.6 crop? Can it be handheld at that distance, or pretty much tripod only?
 
The Kenko set is very good; the same quality as the two Canon tubes. The only draw back of the Kenko tubes is that they can not be used with EF-S lenses, without modification.

Brian A.
 
I'm not using any EF-S lenses, so the Kenko set will work great.

Thanks...
The Kenko set is very good; the same quality as the two Canon
tubes. The only draw back of the Kenko tubes is that they can not
be used with EF-S lenses, without modification.

Brian A.
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