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Need tips for faster E-1 focus speed
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grandp
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If you all would read about what i posted about the E-500 it was a report of its use at a wedding and what i think and found out about the camera i was not complaining? the complaining? was all the people replying trying to defend a camera they had never used.
That's how all this started by me reporting how the camera did after many of you asked me to post some photos and asked me to tell what i thought of it.
I did post many photos good and bad.
I was asked to post E-1 photos i did that as well.
Everyone is taking things out or contect and replying to a reply about the wrong thing many times.
I have been slammed even since then.
What about the other people having E-1 focus problem and now other new E-500 users reporting the same problems.
The difference is i an not complaining? i am only reporting what i have encountered and then asking ?s about how to fix it.
grandp
Senior Member
I agree i have been replying to one after another and many are saying the same thing that if they read what i posted they would not reply with what they did it makes no since.
If this disssion was in one of the Pro fourms i would have a few thousand photographers on my side backing up every bit of what i have been shot down for in here.
But i would also be shot down in the Pro fourms for even buying a Oly camera to start with.
Everyone here seens to think the E-1 is widely used but its not used much at all by pros anyware.
Like i replyed before most pros tade up every year or two and OLy is a few years behind
Peter Khor
Forum Enthusiast
Dropping Olympus and sticking with Canon or Nikon wil fix it. Really! (conside the 5D and the D200)
grandp
Senior Member
LOL i like that one .. i want to change my screen name to that or should i sey taht.
Cheers...
it won't work for moving objects to or out from the plane of focus.
I had you do it to convince yourself it is indeed the focus mechanism of the E1 that's causing the delay. I think in dim situations the E1 is not the best option, in dim situations with moving targets it only gets worse.
Hence my workaround is to take many photos, the LCD for playback can NOT be used to check focus! It doesn't zoom in enough, fortunately I've found this out on non-paying jobs and now use the LCD for checking angles of shots, histogram, blinkies and other things but definitely not whether focus is good or not.
The above method will also not work with your dragsters, but since they should be outside I think you'll do okay focusing, especially with some distance between you and the vehicles.
Good luck,
Dan
I had you do it to convince yourself it is indeed the focus mechanism of the E1 that's causing the delay. I think in dim situations the E1 is not the best option, in dim situations with moving targets it only gets worse.
Hence my workaround is to take many photos, the LCD for playback can NOT be used to check focus! It doesn't zoom in enough, fortunately I've found this out on non-paying jobs and now use the LCD for checking angles of shots, histogram, blinkies and other things but definitely not whether focus is good or not.
The above method will also not work with your dragsters, but since they should be outside I think you'll do okay focusing, especially with some distance between you and the vehicles.
Good luck,
Dan
I do it that way every Saturday.
In autofocus mode, pre-focus on the end of a pew. Choose a distance that will make the bride the size you want in the viewfinder. Flip the selector switch to manual focus mode, and wait for the bride to reach the point where you have pre-focused. I actually take a shot when the bride is one step before she reaches my pre-focus point, and I take a second shot immediately after the first. I always shoot at ISO 400 and f/4.5 - and this provides plenty of depth of field to assure that both shots are in focus. At ISO 400 and f/4.5, the FL-50 will recycle instantly (at that distance) without need for an external battery pack - assuming you use NIMH AA-sized batteries.
Napal - how are you doing?
You now know you're going to have to explain to grandp exactly where you focus, ie not the floor but at the top of the pew closest to isle, exactly how far away, make sure not to move anywhere else, not to take photos any other distance away, don't forget to put camera back into AF after the exit, and a million more ?'s...
Dan
You now know you're going to have to explain to grandp exactly where you focus, ie not the floor but at the top of the pew closest to isle, exactly how far away, make sure not to move anywhere else, not to take photos any other distance away, don't forget to put camera back into AF after the exit, and a million more ?'s...
Dan
george_online
Senior Member
I sent you replay. Everything is ok by me.
Regards, George
Regards, George
Carloskbco
Veteran Member
Wasn't that called ANTICIPATING the shot? I mean, the bride is coming down hand in hand let's say wher dad, focus to one of the pews ahead of her, hold the button midway, and when she gets there...shoot !
I mentioned that earlier, and grandp said he was talking about taking candid shots of people doing their Jon Travolta imitation on the dance floor.
I gave up a while back...
Carlos
I mentioned that earlier, and grandp said he was talking about taking candid shots of people doing their Jon Travolta imitation on the dance floor.
I gave up a while back...
Carlos
george_online
Senior Member
I got your second mail. I replied and just need confirmation ASAP regarding to the last mail.
Regards, George
Regards, George
jcropper
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then you've got major, MAJOR, buyers remorse.
or just plain bad equipement luck.
My E1 focuses very fast, and sure as hell doesn't take 2 seconds!
I used a 20d briefly,(borrowed from a friend to see what all the hype was about). what I learned, was that the focus did seem faster, but only because of it's seductive shutter sound. The E1 is just plain softer for lack of a better word. The 20d is in your face, where the E1 is more conservative. And to note, in my experience, the 20d had very poor focus accuracey. But that's my opinion of my experience.
You may have a dud! Although, I think it highly unlikely.
cheers, and better luck, Justin
or just plain bad equipement luck.
My E1 focuses very fast, and sure as hell doesn't take 2 seconds!
I used a 20d briefly,(borrowed from a friend to see what all the hype was about). what I learned, was that the focus did seem faster, but only because of it's seductive shutter sound. The E1 is just plain softer for lack of a better word. The 20d is in your face, where the E1 is more conservative. And to note, in my experience, the 20d had very poor focus accuracey. But that's my opinion of my experience.
You may have a dud! Although, I think it highly unlikely.
cheers, and better luck, Justin
grandp
Senior Member
i shoot on average 8 to 15 shots of the bride coming down and have never had to do the focus on the pews method with any camera i have used in the last 5 years because the auto focus has always been right on with out problems.
If you had a camera that focused fast then you would not be doing the focus on the pews method and you could quickly get an extra shot of someone looking at the bride in an instance and then be right back at the bride and snap away with no delays.
You guys need to go and shoot with some other cameras for a wile and then come back to the E-1 and then you will notice a big difference.
Image quality is not all that bad in other brands as many of you think and the OLY color is a little better but not by much and with a color adjustment they all can look the same.
My biggest thing is that i do not like the canon lens but the bodys do out proform the E-1 in every aspect or taking pictures.
That seems to be the problem with many people replying they have not worked day in and day out with another camera like the D100 10D or 20D and the picked up the E-1 even my wife noticed it right away and then she said is the focus point light broke?
Its the only camera we have had that has no lit up focus point and in low light you can not see the focus symbol in the camera.
Even the E-500 has this now! buts it very small compared to others.
Talking to many people in here is like talking to someone who has no photography knolage at all based on the reply's many have given.
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ubiquityman328405
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I did a little test with my E500 using the 14-45 lense in moderately low light (10'x20' room with 2x60W bulbs).
I tried focusing in brighter and dark areas, and out the door to get a different focal point.
Sometimes it focuses in a split second. Sometimes it takes 2-3 seconds to focus, especially if I take the lense from close to far or far to close focus. It just hunts a bit before locking on at times.
There are times when it refuses to focus at all, for instance, when I point the camera at my leg.
I must not have enough hair on my leg because the AF hunts looking high frequency objects (edges) to lock on to and can't find it.
It's not a focal distance problem. As soon as put an object (like a black pen) on top of my leg, it focuses very quickly.
I tried changing the AF AREA setting from auto to center, but that does appear to make it focus any faster.
This must be normal if the object doesn't have any contrasting features.
I even turned on the flash to get the IR focus assist lamp, but again, that didn't seem to help. I think the problem is that the room lighting is a higher intensity than the IR.
I turned off the room lights, then the IR assist worked perfectly, focusing consistantly in about 1s. It works just as well on white walls.
Personally, I thought the D70 focused faster than my E500. The difference wasn't huge, but noticeable.
I tried focusing in brighter and dark areas, and out the door to get a different focal point.
Sometimes it focuses in a split second. Sometimes it takes 2-3 seconds to focus, especially if I take the lense from close to far or far to close focus. It just hunts a bit before locking on at times.
There are times when it refuses to focus at all, for instance, when I point the camera at my leg.
I must not have enough hair on my leg because the AF hunts looking high frequency objects (edges) to lock on to and can't find it.
It's not a focal distance problem. As soon as put an object (like a black pen) on top of my leg, it focuses very quickly.
I tried changing the AF AREA setting from auto to center, but that does appear to make it focus any faster.
This must be normal if the object doesn't have any contrasting features.
I even turned on the flash to get the IR focus assist lamp, but again, that didn't seem to help. I think the problem is that the room lighting is a higher intensity than the IR.
I turned off the room lights, then the IR assist worked perfectly, focusing consistantly in about 1s. It works just as well on white walls.
Personally, I thought the D70 focused faster than my E500. The difference wasn't huge, but noticeable.
thw
Veteran Member
thw wrote
charliedid
Veteran Member
hit the gym
Oh no wait.... um i have no well you could just i don't know maybe stop just any no um......
Use the damn thing for more than 24hrs and well you know um kinda just go and....hmmm sorta just
Like I said before
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charlie
Oh no wait.... um i have no well you could just i don't know maybe stop just any no um......
Use the damn thing for more than 24hrs and well you know um kinda just go and....hmmm sorta just
Like I said before
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grandp
Senior Member
It just needs a good beat and i think you have a new hit song!
Nick named BI-POLAR Shooter
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Nick named BI-POLAR Shooter
Dear Grandp
I have to say I am somewhat disappointed by the attitude of some of my fellow Oly shooters.
I think it is in the interest of all forum members if shooting experiences are shared. It should be possible to seek advice without running the risk of being blasted off your socks.
Your behavior, Grandp, is much healthier than that of some of my Oly buddies here – keep your spirits up!
Regards, Rambolin
I have to say I am somewhat disappointed by the attitude of some of my fellow Oly shooters.
I think it is in the interest of all forum members if shooting experiences are shared. It should be possible to seek advice without running the risk of being blasted off your socks.
Your behavior, Grandp, is much healthier than that of some of my Oly buddies here – keep your spirits up!
Regards, Rambolin
grandp
Senior Member
Thanks.
I will be keeping the E-1 i just sold the grip battery system and i will be sending back the Fl-50 and buy the 50-200 A zoom is what i need the most on a second body.
Nick named BI-POLAR Shooter
I will be keeping the E-1 i just sold the grip battery system and i will be sending back the Fl-50 and buy the 50-200 A zoom is what i need the most on a second body.
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Adam-T
Forum Pro
Yes, of course but there isn't exactly high speed movement in the church itself and the only fast parts are going in and coming out of places unless the bride is late.. the E1 locks accurately which is more important and has deeper depth of field for a given aperture than the 1DS by far
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