Review of RSE Premium on Outbackphoto....

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I almost missed this after checking the RSE forums every day.
Obviously the introduction of the premium verion is not far off.
Back to read the review.
http://www.outbackphoto.com/artofraw/raw_19/essay.html

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Diane B
http://www.pbase.com/picnic/galleries
it pretty much does what I want from a RAW processor--and is VERY reasonable at $59. Anxious to try it and see how some of the features pan out, altho' after using RSE since it came out, it should just be quite intuitive (as it really is even for newcomers to it).

Now--I'm hoping that Magne Nilsen will offer camera profiles for it--altno' I have to admit, this last big shoot was mostly an RSE one--with only occasional conversions used from C1--ones that had a great deal of reds or golds.

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Diane B
http://www.pbase.com/picnic/galleries
 
I was left a little cold (read stupid) by the "straighten tool" as described in the preview. It isn't clear in my mind how it works or exactly what is straightened out. Do you know what is going on with the "straighten tool"?

Regarding profiles it is a puzzle to me why, if you can't provide decent profiles, doesn't everybody simply get in touch with Magne and include his profiles as part of the product. Now I have to admit that RSE, unlike C1, does not need much (if any) help in the profiling department. It does strike me a little funny that a company trying to establish themselves as a competent S/W supplier won't go that extra yard to distinguish themselves from other products by starting out with the best possible profiles.

Regards,

Joe Kurkjian, Pbase Supporter

http://www.pbase.com/jkurkjia



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I was left a little cold (read stupid) by the "straighten tool" as
described in the preview. It isn't clear in my mind how it works
or exactly what is straightened out. Do you know what is going on
with the "straighten tool"?
I didn't pay much attention to it, to be truthful (call us both 'stupid' LOL, since I always do all that in PS. However, my best guess (I haven't gone back and looked) would be similar to PS-you choose a straight line, vertical or horizontal, and ask the software to straighten to this line (I choose 'arbitrary rotate' in PS). Looked at it again at Outback and just feel its not explained well to be truthfull.
Regarding profiles it is a puzzle to me why, if you can't provide
decent profiles, doesn't everybody simply get in touch with Magne
and include his profiles as part of the product. Now I have to
admit that RSE, unlike C1, does not need much (if any) help in the
profiling department. It does strike me a little funny that a
company trying to establish themselves as a competent S/W supplier
won't go that extra yard to distinguish themselves from other
products by starting out with the best possible profiles.
Joe, I know for sure that RSE has been in touch with Magne since early in the game. Magne, in fact, took 3 of my RAWs and worked on them to be sure he could deal with their (RSE)--'whatevers' he has to deal with LOL. He only worked with color, not tonality (which is another plus with his profiles). The resulting files he sent me were substantially better (altho' that was with the first build and their subsequent builds were much better in color--particularly greens, which I complained about in the RSE forum). Now--his profiles are $30-35 I think--directly to him, so to include that would mean RSP would then be $89 or so--and some would not feel the need for a profile but be put off by the higher cost of RSE. There are many that use C1 'as is'--I just feel there is sufficient reason for me to use his profiles for C1 so am willing to pay for them.

An aside--I used RSE for almost all my conversions for a big shoot for upholstered furniture mfg. this month--I actually converted every file in both C1/Magne profiles and RSE. In the end, I used the C1 conversions with additional sharpening after processing--for some with difficult red and/or gold tones--used the RSE conversions for by far the majority of the shots. So--probably for many people using Canons (some of the other camera mfg. owners feel their color is less good--like Olympus owners--but supposedly RSP has improved all of these in the Premium version --and the soon to come free version), the color is just fine for them. For me---color is absolutely critical as my link in the chain has to be as correct as posisble before they go to print so I just did what I had to do at this point. I'm hoping I don't have to leave RSE/P in the future.

Diane
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Diane B
http://www.pbase.com/picnic/galleries
 
Thanks for your comments.

Regarding RSE profiles, whatever they currently provide in their latest release is okay with me (i.e. I don't have a problem with the renderings I've seen so far). On the other hand, IMO C1 is useless without Magne's profiles.

Well, we will have to see what factors the upgrade policy for the "about to be released" professional version will include. I'm certainly not going to put myself in a position where I have to pay for a future upgrade if I buy the latest camera in the store. I don't mind paying for significent (and well done) upgrades but will not pay for upgrades that either fix old problems or simply add support for the latest camera on the block. So far RSE looks very good and I hope the Pro Version performs well (we shall see); hopefully it will do a better job of pulling information out of shadows compared to the current freebe version.

Again, thanks for you input(s) Diane.

Regards,

Joe Kurkjian, Pbase Supporter

http://www.pbase.com/jkurkjia



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I was left a little cold (read stupid) by the "straighten tool" as
described in the preview. It isn't clear in my mind how it works
or exactly what is straightened out. Do you know what is going on
with the "straighten tool"?
That was my read of it.

As in PS, use the line tool to draw a line that you want to be perfectly horizontal, then go to Rotate, Arbitrary and it will be pre-filled with the degrees of rotation needed to make it perfectly horizontal.

That, and a quick crop, perfectly straightens all my pix that need it, so I'm not obsessive over getting every shot perfectly straight, using bubble levels, etc.

At least that's what I took from the article.
 
At least for me. The link was dead all morning, but I just grabbed it, installed it, and registered it.

I just wish I had some RAW files to play with on my laptop. Guess I have to wait until tonight at home....
 
Someone needs to make profiles for it. Its colors are pretty iffy. At $59 I'll certainly buy it.
 
For those who have never used RSE you should try it. You never get
so much detail out of any other raw converter.
It's the ONLY raw converter where I feel comfortable using the sharpening and noise reduction. I have tried to duplicate the detail I get from RSE using my usual workflow (ACR + Photokit sharpener) and I can't do it. That alone makes this a heavyweight contender.

After an RSE conversion all Photoshop is needed for is local edits and fine-tuning.
Great introductory price also.
 
There have been many color enhancements, and the beta testers for Olympus, Konica Minolta and others who were not pleased with the RSE color are now quite enthusiastic. Give the free trial a spin.
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Regards,

Michael Tapes
Owner:
http://www.WhiBal.com
http://www.RawWorkflow.com
Executive Consultant:
RawShooter
 
1 - The straighten (horizon) tool is demonstrated in the video tutorial.

2 - Now that RSP is released we can continue our talks with Magne.

3 - The beta testers commented on improved color for many cameras.
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Regards,

Michael Tapes
Owner:
http://www.WhiBal.com
http://www.RawWorkflow.com
Executive Consultant:
RawShooter
 
Paid upgrades will be deserved. Camera support for popular DSLRs can be expected. This is not official policy, but what is the intent of my understanding..
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Regards,

Michael Tapes
Owner:
http://www.WhiBal.com
http://www.RawWorkflow.com
Executive Consultant:
RawShooter
 
And as one of the beta testers you are not allowed to discuss that fact or any other about the testing. Please observe your agreement with Pixmantec.
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Regards,

Michael Tapes
Owner:
http://www.WhiBal.com
http://www.RawWorkflow.com
Executive Consultant:
RawShooter
 
There have been many color enhancements, and the beta testers for
Olympus, Konica Minolta and others who were not pleased with the
RSE color are now quite enthusiastic. Give the free trial a spin.
--
Regards,

Michael Tapes
Owner:
http://www.WhiBal.com
http://www.RawWorkflow.com
Executive Consultant:
RawShooter
Have only done a couple but one of the 'reds' I did in C1 this last shoot looks pretty doggone good in RSE Premium. Before I say much more--some more testing.

Only one question so far---but I haven't looked at the whole users guide yet. I only show the '2 comparisons' instead of the 3 or 4--3 and 4 are greyed out.

Diane

Diane
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Diane B
http://www.pbase.com/picnic/galleries
 
I was left a little cold (read stupid) by the "straighten tool" as
described in the preview. It isn't clear in my mind how it works
or exactly what is straightened out. Do you know what is going on
with the "straighten tool"?
That was my read of it.

As in PS, use the line tool to draw a line that you want to be
perfectly horizontal, then go to Rotate, Arbitrary and it will be
pre-filled with the degrees of rotation needed to make it perfectly
horizontal.

That, and a quick crop, perfectly straightens all my pix that need
it, so I'm not obsessive over getting every shot perfectly
straight, using bubble levels, etc.

At least that's what I took from the article.
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Diane B
http://www.pbase.com/picnic/galleries
 
For those who have never used RSE you should try it. You never get
so much detail out of any other raw converter.
It's the ONLY raw converter where I feel comfortable using the
sharpening and noise reduction. I have tried to duplicate the
detail I get from RSE using my usual workflow (ACR + Photokit
sharpener) and I can't do it. That alone makes this a heavyweight
contender.
After an RSE conversion all Photoshop is needed for is local edits
and fine-tuning.
Great introductory price also.
Julio--I said the same about C1 vs. RSE also. I use PKS too---and could not get as detailed a file with C1 and PKS as I got from RSE--and just minor sharpening.

Diane
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Diane B
http://www.pbase.com/picnic/galleries
 
And as one of the beta testers you are not allowed to discuss that
fact or any other about the testing. Please observe your agreement
with Pixmantec.
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Regards,

Michael Tapes
Owner:
http://www.WhiBal.com
http://www.RawWorkflow.com
Executive Consultant:
RawShooter
not that that's an excuse. I do see many others who have been beta testers for other software talk about it openly. However, if its the policy with Pixmantic--then that's it and should be abided by. Surely wish I had signed up for beta testing. I'm such an enthusiastic user of it since it came out--it would have been great to be in on the first premium release.

Diane
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Diane B
http://www.pbase.com/picnic/galleries
 

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