H1 vs FZ5 test pics

.... oh almost forgot at add...

The strange thing is in the day pictures there's more purple fringing in the Sony photos ... eg zoom into that photo with the circular tower (at night its the one with the red and blue lights).

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http://boomzfoto.fotopic.net - my collection of FZ5 pics

http://boomzfoto2.fotopic.net - comparative full size photos of the Pany's FZ5 to Sony's H1

http://onokinegrindz.com - Food review site; some photos were taken with the FZ5.
 
Thanls for reposting new pics. I see that the FZ5 pics are 5MP
now, and that the compression isn't as high, but the files still
seem small to me. Were they shot at standard instead of fine
quality setting?
NP. I'm curious too so anything you notice is worth investigating.
The H1 EXIF data says: CompressedBitsPerPixel - 4 (bits/pixel).

Fine is 8 (bits/pixel) on my P150 and other H1 pics I've seen. The files should be more like 2-3MB, not 500K-1.1MB for the "Fine" setting.

You typically shoot at the maximum quality setting when comparing.
Yes, as I mentioned they are in 'standard' and not 'vivid' for the
Pany, 'standard' instead of 'fine' for Sony.
Ah, I think we are mixing up quality (compression) and preset saturation/sharpness settings. Standard on Sony is a higher jpeg compression (lower quality) than Fine. The FZ5 has Fine and Standard quality settings as well (and has a TIFF setting). Panasonic also uses Standard, Natural and Vivid to describe colour/sharpness presets.
I haven't had a chance to compare them carefully yet, but I did
notice that EXIF data for some of the FZ5 shots (around the pool)
have Sharpness set to "Hard" and Saturation set to "High". Did you
find the default FZ5 settings too flat for those shots?
Aside from the night shots taken yesterday. these today were all on
'Program' mode. Did no control 'sharpness', 'hard' nor 'high'
P1020093, P1020098, P1020099 and P1020103 have these EXIF settings:

Contrast - Normal
Saturation - High
Sharpness - Hard

But the H1 and other FZ5 images are all at normal. I didn't look at the night shots.
Yes I did find the default FZ5 settings very flat. Also I found
that the default for the FZ5 EV a little too high too. As Theresa
mentioned in another post, bring the EV down -1/3 produced much
better photos. Not so washed out. I tried a few shots and I have
to agree with her.
These adjusted -1/3 photos were not posted.
Yes, I found that with the Canon S2 IS as well. It often overexposed by 1/3-2/3 EV. No metering system is perfect, but it sure is nice having a live histogram.
I do not want to 'influence' the viewer and so I didn't write a
thing about the night shots, but did you notice that many of the
FZ5 had a purple halo around the street lights? Take a look at the
one with Macy and Walmart in the composition.
I haven't really looked at the night shots, but I didn't notice the FZ5 sometimes has bad CA, and other times very low CA. dpreview and dcresource say the Panasonic Venus II image processor actually removes PF, so maybe in some cases it can and in others it can't? Take a look at the bottom edge of the lower left plant leaf and stem in P1020103. It has more red fringing than the H1's purple fringing, but the red isn't as obvious as purple. Looking at the P1020093 image, it looks like maybe some fringing has been removed along the 2X2's on the lattic roof. The edges seem to have a lot of artifacts around them, but maybe that's because sharpening was set to "hard".

Maxx
Thanks,
Maxx
--
http://boomzfoto.fotopic.net - my collection of FZ5 pics

http://boomzfoto2.fotopic.net - comparative full size photos of the
Pany's FZ5 to Sony's H1

http://onokinegrindz.com - Food review site; some photos were taken
with the FZ5.
--
http://boomzfoto.fotopic.net - my collection of FZ5 pics

http://boomzfoto2.fotopic.net - comparative full size photos of the
Pany's FZ5 to Sony's H1

http://onokinegrindz.com - Food review site; some photos were taken
with the FZ5.
 
The H1 EXIF data says: CompressedBitsPerPixel - 4 (bits/pixel).
Fine is 8 (bits/pixel) on my P150 and other H1 pics I've seen. The
files should be more like 2-3MB, not 500K-1.1MB for the "Fine"
setting.

You typically shoot at the maximum quality setting when comparing.
So it shouldn't be 5m STD on the H1 vs 5m STD on the FZ5?
Yes, as I mentioned they are in 'standard' and not 'vivid' for the
Pany, 'standard' instead of 'fine' for Sony.
Ah, I think we are mixing up quality (compression) and preset
saturation/sharpness settings. Standard on Sony is a higher jpeg
compression (lower quality) than Fine. The FZ5 has Fine and
Standard quality settings as well (and has a TIFF setting).
Panasonic also uses Standard, Natural and Vivid to describe
colour/sharpness presets.
Sorry but you lost me here.

We'll 1st I'm thinking it shouldn't be TIFF, it should be 2560 for FZ5 and 5M for H1.
Then 'standard' on both.

Finally shoot everything in P mode and let the camera do its magic. Did I do something wrong?
I haven't had a chance to compare them carefully yet, but I did
notice that EXIF data for some of the FZ5 shots (around the pool)
have Sharpness set to "Hard" and Saturation set to "High". Did you
find the default FZ5 settings too flat for those shots?
Aside from the night shots taken yesterday. these today were all on
'Program' mode. Did no control 'sharpness', 'hard' nor 'high'
P1020093, P1020098, P1020099 and P1020103 have these EXIF settings:

Contrast - Normal
Saturation - High
Sharpness - Hard
Interesting that you mentioned these as they were taken seconds from each other ... infact P .... 092 has the same time minute log as P...93.

I'm very certain that I didn't access the menu. So why the difference? Do you think this could be because it is in full P-mode?
I have not found Contrast, Saturation, & Sharpness controls on the FZ5.
But the H1 and other FZ5 images are all at normal. I didn't look at
the night shots.
Yes, I found that with the Canon S2 IS as well. It often
overexposed by 1/3-2/3 EV. No metering system is perfect, but it
sure is nice having a live histogram.
I need to use the live histogrm more.
I haven't really looked at the night shots, but I didn't notice the
FZ5 sometimes has bad CA, and other times very low CA. dpreview and
dcresource say the Panasonic Venus II image processor actually
removes PF, so maybe in some cases it can and in others it can't?
Interesting again ... seeing this at work. To be honest I was very dissappointed when I saw the FZ5 night photos.
Take a look at the bottom edge of the lower left plant leaf and
stem in P1020103. It has more red fringing than the H1's purple
fringing, but the red isn't as obvious as purple. Looking at the
P1020093 image, it looks like maybe some fringing has been removed
along the 2X2's on the lattic roof. The edges seem to have a lot of
artifacts around them,
Ahh... yes I see the red you're talking about. DSC04897's purple is pretty pronounced at the wall edge.

but maybe that's because sharpening was set
to "hard".
Wait! Where do you adjust sharpening? I don't see it in the FZ5 menu.
Maxx
Thanks,
Maxx
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http://boomzfoto.fotopic.net - my collection of FZ5 pics

http://boomzfoto2.fotopic.net - comparative full size photos of the
Pany's FZ5 to Sony's H1

http://onokinegrindz.com - Food review site; some photos were taken
with the FZ5.
--
http://boomzfoto.fotopic.net - my collection of FZ5 pics

http://boomzfoto2.fotopic.net - comparative full size photos of the
Pany's FZ5 to Sony's H1

http://onokinegrindz.com - Food review site; some photos were taken
with the FZ5.
--
http://boomzfoto.fotopic.net - my collection of FZ5 pics

http://boomzfoto2.fotopic.net - comparative full size photos of the Pany's FZ5 to Sony's H1

http://onokinegrindz.com - Food review site; some photos were taken with the FZ5.
 
Boomz-

You are going to an awful lot of work here, and I want you to know that a lot of us lurkers really appreciate it.

Jack
 
I 2nd that!! Thanks a million for all your hard work, and letting us see real world usage differance.
--
Regards

Eric/USA Panasonic FZ20 :0) + Olympus 2020z :0) [ex Nikon 5700 :0(]
 
The whole idea of doing this is to provide the means so that people can see the photos for themselves and decide which they prefer.

I won't want to even dare to attempt talking about photo quality and the more technical aspects of digital photography as I simply can't. I'm hoping the more advanced photographers will pens some lines to help out in this department.

Howerver, I can provide personal first impressions and experiences after using both cameras straight out of the box.
There's definately pros and cons in both cameras in differing categories.

Without repeating the obvious, these are some of the 'not so obvious' ones after having used both cameras:

Color accuracy - Some readers have expressed that they prefer the more 'natural' colors of the FZ5 and find the Sony having a 'red' tone. At times, I have to agree that the FZ5's color is more 'accurate' for example the water in the pool was really turquoise and not as blue as shown in H1 photos. Then there's the question of so, forget the color, which looks better to you anyway? We'll just take that one, thanks.

Focusing - One thing I've learned about their focusing abilities is that in some situations, the FZ5 focuses noticably faster than the H1. In others, they are the same. Yet again, depending on the subject distance and zoom range, the FZ5's funky focusing 'requirements' can make focusing impossible.

M-Mode - Manual controls in the FZ5 is a pain compared to the H1. Panasonic needs to improve in this department.

Zoom rocker - On the position of the zoom rocker, personally I much prefer where the zoom toggle rocker is positioned on the FZ5 as you have 3 other fingers and a thumb to grip. I can effectively shoot with one hand or require little assistance from my left. Sony's thumb zoom rocker will require you too hold the heavier H1 with the left hand as the thumb has to be 'released' somewhere to perform the rocking movement. Do remember that this is a personal peference. I've been using Sony cameras so I found it very refreshing to have the index finger do the toggling. I'm hooked and I don't want to have to go back now.

Flash card compartment - Some other things may seem trivial until you're faced with a situation, then you'll really appreciate the extra consideration put into design. Example: H1's seperate flash card lid is God sent when you have a tripod mounting plate attached to the bottom of the camera.

But H1's battery poping up isn't nice. I prefer having a battery catch so when the battery compartment door is open (accidental or otherwise like a fiddling finger friend or Aunty Anna ) the camera won't die suddenly.

Build, weight and feel quality first impressions are better with the H1. Until you try holding it for a while for that bug to turn around so that you won't shoot only his butt. That's when you startwishing it went on a diet. But having said that, Panasonic needs to improve its 'cheap plasticky don't fit properly' lens caps and other parts. Why do they even bother providing those cheapo camera straps that 'cut' into the back of your neck?
H1's over night battery charging time is ridiculous!

On flash, it isn't obviously reported in many places but you'll have to manually pop up the flash with the FZ5. H1's pop up is automatic; to disable it you'll have to press the 'flash cancel' control button.

Manual pop up can be viewed a boon because there'll never be an 'accidental' fire. I personally like it.
It is not an issue for me that the H1 is only 2x vs the FZ5's 4x.

I"m going to test the Mega OIS/Super Steady Shot tomorrow and some macro.

--
http://boomzfoto.fotopic.net - my collection of FZ5 pics

http://boomzfoto2.fotopic.net - comparative full size photos of the Pany's FZ5 to Sony's H1

http://onokinegrindz.com - Food review site; some photos were taken with the FZ5.
 
Thanks Seiko7t59!

It call started out of my own need and curiosity. I could not have comprehended how much this was needed until I saw the numbers clicking ....to date 3943 photo hits in just the 3 days!!!

I wish I could do more with the other popular camera models. It will help remove a little of the guess work in buying a digital cameras.

Cheers,

Boomz
I 2nd that!! Thanks a million for all your hard work, and letting
us see real world usage differance.
--
Regards

Eric/USA Panasonic FZ20 :0) + Olympus 2020z :0) [ex Nikon 5700 :0(]
--
http://boomzfoto.fotopic.net - my collection of FZ5 pics

http://boomzfoto2.fotopic.net - comparative full size photos of the Pany's FZ5 to Sony's H1

http://onokinegrindz.com - Food review site; some photos were taken with the FZ5.
 
boomz--

stupid me, i just noticed this filesize problem. so we're not looking at 100% 5 megapixel originals? then there is almost NO POINT in looking at all. obviously, for both cameras, you are going to introduce lots of new problems in the pictures taking them at 3 MP or JPG'ing them again once you get them onto your drive. What's the deal?

Please take some full-size comparison pix with both cameras so that the comparisons will be more useful to all.

Thanks for doing this--
From the EXIF data, the FZ5 pics look like they were taken at 3MP
instead of 5MP. To compare, they should both be at 5MP and it would
be nice if the full sized files were posted as the compression here
is really high. A 5MP image should be between 2-3MB. Not 400KB.
 
maxx2--

i think you're doing a good job of drawing attention to the difficulties boomz seems to be having comparing apples to apples here. i wanted to see a fair and competent "shootout" of these two terrific cameras, but i'm afraid we're not really getting that so much as a series of small misadventures. I sympathize with boomz, though, as it's very hard to remember to set everything and take all the pictures so that the comparisions are fair and accurate.

i had pointed out on his first set that he might be using the VIVID or STANDARD setting, and suggested he use the NATURAL setting, which is what i think most people with the FZ5 use. But he either hasn't done that, or the "hard" sharpness and "high" saturation are the "STANDARD" setting on the FZ5? I don't know, just wondering.

When I had an FZ5 for a while I had it set on NATURAL and that produced NORMAL contrast, LOW saturation, and SOFT sharpness.
I haven't had a chance to compare them carefully yet, but I did
notice that EXIF data for some of the FZ5 shots (around the pool)
have Sharpness set to "Hard" and Saturation set to "High". Did you
find the default FZ5 settings too flat for those shots?

Thanks,
Maxx
--
http://boomzfoto.fotopic.net - my collection of FZ5 pics

http://boomzfoto2.fotopic.net - comparative full size photos of the
Pany's FZ5 to Sony's H1

http://onokinegrindz.com - Food review site; some photos were taken
with the FZ5.
 
Boomz--

I, too, appreciate all your effort, though as I pointed out elsewhere, when the comparisons are a little off, and the pictures aren't full size 5 megapixel shots, and the settings are slightly different, well, these things limit the usefulness of the pictures.

may I suggest simplifying the process, picking a half-dozen varied subject and shooting them carerfully with preferred settings in the cameras?

I guess that would be one wide shot, and one full tele (no digital tele) of the same subject. Then a street scene, stuff withing 50 feet or so, again a wide shot and a tele close up of some detail in the scene. And a portrait, too, a least a snapshot of head and shoulders, or headshot of some person. it's just a suggestion, maybe not a great one at that.

Anyway, keep up the good work--
The whole idea of doing this is to provide the means so that people
can see the photos for themselves and decide which they prefer.

I won't want to even dare to attempt talking about photo quality
and the more technical aspects of digital photography as I simply
can't. I'm hoping the more advanced photographers will pens some
lines to help out in this department.

Howerver, I can provide personal first impressions and experiences
after using both cameras straight out of the box.
There's definately pros and cons in both cameras in differing
categories.

Without repeating the obvious, these are some of the 'not so
obvious' ones after having used both cameras:

Color accuracy - Some readers have expressed that they prefer the
more 'natural' colors of the FZ5 and find the Sony having a 'red'
tone. At times, I have to agree that the FZ5's color is more
'accurate' for example the water in the pool was really turquoise
and not as blue as shown in H1 photos. Then there's the question of
so, forget the color, which looks better to you anyway? We'll just
take that one, thanks.

Focusing - One thing I've learned about their focusing abilities is
that in some situations, the FZ5 focuses noticably faster than the
H1. In others, they are the same. Yet again, depending on the
subject distance and zoom range, the FZ5's funky focusing
'requirements' can make focusing impossible.

M-Mode - Manual controls in the FZ5 is a pain compared to the H1.
Panasonic needs to improve in this department.

Zoom rocker - On the position of the zoom rocker, personally I much
prefer where the zoom toggle rocker is positioned on the FZ5 as you
have 3 other fingers and a thumb to grip. I can effectively shoot
with one hand or require little assistance from my left. Sony's
thumb zoom rocker will require you too hold the heavier H1 with the
left hand as the thumb has to be 'released' somewhere to perform
the rocking movement. Do remember that this is a personal
peference. I've been using Sony cameras so I found it very
refreshing to have the index finger do the toggling. I'm hooked and
I don't want to have to go back now.

Flash card compartment - Some other things may seem trivial until
you're faced with a situation, then you'll really appreciate the
extra consideration put into design. Example: H1's seperate flash
card lid is God sent when you have a tripod mounting plate attached
to the bottom of the camera.

But H1's battery poping up isn't nice. I prefer having a battery
catch so when the battery compartment door is open (accidental or
otherwise like a fiddling finger friend or Aunty Anna ) the camera
won't die suddenly.

Build, weight and feel quality first impressions are better with
the H1. Until you try holding it for a while for that bug to turn
around so that you won't shoot only his butt. That's when you
startwishing it went on a diet. But having said that, Panasonic
needs to improve its 'cheap plasticky don't fit properly' lens caps
and other parts. Why do they even bother providing those cheapo
camera straps that 'cut' into the back of your neck?
H1's over night battery charging time is ridiculous!

On flash, it isn't obviously reported in many places but you'll
have to manually pop up the flash with the FZ5. H1's pop up is
automatic; to disable it you'll have to press the 'flash cancel'
control button.

Manual pop up can be viewed a boon because there'll never be an
'accidental' fire. I personally like it.
It is not an issue for me that the H1 is only 2x vs the FZ5's 4x.

I"m going to test the Mega OIS/Super Steady Shot tomorrow and some
macro.

--
http://boomzfoto.fotopic.net - my collection of FZ5 pics

http://boomzfoto2.fotopic.net - comparative full size photos of the
Pany's FZ5 to Sony's H1

http://onokinegrindz.com - Food review site; some photos were taken
with the FZ5.
 
No I do not defent my camera To dead.
A better one is an better one.
But I just can't see the H1 is alot better than the pana.
the points you give are just word nothing.
wat you talking about more contrast,and H1 blow the FZ5 away.
comon boy.
In my eyes the camera's are almost identical.
But if you wanne think this camera is better.
I can't see the H1 as an replacement of my FZ5.
thad is wat I ment to say.
meaby the picture look a bit better..afcours anny new camera will be better.
nut no raison to replace it.
meaby good for some new guys buying an new camera.
then I can acure with you.demarren.
Yes indeed,you can't compare the pictures thad way.
I gone wait depreview his review first.
as comparing cannot be done by amateurs.
If the FZ5 blew away the H1, you wouldn't be saying this.

Anyway, if you are not able to tell the difference between the two pics and think you are not good enough to compare them, then why do you even care about the results? You clearly can't see them for yourself. Is it better to listen to what someone else thinks than to form your own opinion?

Here's mine: The H1 clearly trumps the FZ5. Pictures are sharper, colors are more accurate, noise is less, contrast is more accurate. Yes, the H1 does exhibit a bit more purple fringing than the FZ5 exhibits red fringing (which is not to say it's not a problem on the FZ5 anyways), but keep in mind that these pictures are all below F4, and in the night shots, where a tripod is obviously being used, there is little reason to shoot so wide. I am confident both cameras will display little, if any, CA at smaller apertures.
sorry but the pictures can't be compared for wat the are.
eather way there is alot more CA in the h1
and I say you thad will be vissible in prints.
just my idd.

The FZ5 pics appear to be 3MP, while the H1's are 5MP. Makes it
hard (and unfair) to compare detail.
As is typical with this forum, people will skirt the truth and defend their camera to the death rathering than forming a logical opinion that something in the world can be better. Not once in this thread (so far) does anyone bring up sharpness (except when claiming that the FZ20 was shot at 3 MP, which the author denies, and I put my trust in him) or contrast. Others claim noise is only better on the Sony because there is more noise reduction. Basically, all anyone can say is that the Sony has a lot of purple fringing, and yet still no one mentions the nasty red fringing that the Panny (and all the other Pannys) exhibit.

As people love labeling me as a troll when I post an honest opinion, and thinking that I'm some Sony fanboy who just comes into the Panny forums to raise hell... I have an FZ20, I love it, I wont be replacing it for anything other than a DSLR anytime soon. And I guess unlike some others, I am willing to admit something else is better than what I have.

-andy
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http://www.andydremeaux.com

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If you need an camera,Just go out and buy one.
Demarren
FZ5 User
 
I have reed reviews.
I am not saying its an bad camera.
its still ad good as the FZ5 meaby a little better for picture rendering.
overall ,if you look small its ok
but at 100% there is noise an blocking paterns due noise reduction.
also the FZ5 hace noise.but with no noise reduction and thad is far better.
depent of wat you want I quis.
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If you need an camera,Just go out and buy one.
Demarren
FZ5 User
 
Hi FBX,
I, too, appreciate all your effort, though as I pointed out
elsewhere, when the comparisons are a little off, and the pictures
aren't full size 5 megapixel shots, and the settings are slightly
different, well, these things limit the usefulness of the pictures.
Thanks.

I know and that's why I'm trying to get help getting it correct.

Hence, the open book policy and letting everybody in on what's going on.

I believe that the current photos are all 5 MP. So wondering why you brought it up.

Putting it on program mode will show what is best for the camera according to Sony and Panasonic. I guess the settings will have to be different by allowing this.

I'm keeping in mind that the average user will be using the P-mode more than the other modes.
may I suggest simplifying the process, picking a half-dozen varied
subject and shooting them carerfully with preferred settings in the
cameras?
Sorry, but what do you mean by 'preferred' settings? I kinda asked myself that before I started this and decided again on the each camera's program mode - the primary concern it to make sure that other users will be able to repeat the settings at any given time, hence using the preset factory Program Mode is the best way of ensuring this.

If my concept is wrong, could you please explain a little more of what you have in mind, thanks.
I guess that would be one wide shot, and one full tele (no digital
tele) of the same subject.
Didn't I do this already in all three different scenes ie Pool shots, Day shots, & Night shots.

Then a street scene, stuff withing 50

OK I'll try to include a street scene for you.
feet or so, again a wide shot and a tele close up of some detail in
the scene.
Hmmm... this one is going to be tough. Maybe this won't happen. No one I know wants their photo online to be scrutinised lol!

And a portrait, too, a least a snapshot of head and
shoulders, or headshot of some person. it's just a suggestion,
maybe not a great one at that.

Anyway, keep up the good work--
Thanks. I'll try .... :)

Cheers!
 
Ok we see you do the best you can.
I think your pictures are fine.
you alraidy have an wide shot and an tele shot also an night picture.
I think its about corect if you say the pictures from the H1
are more vivid and have diferent colors.
I see more CA in the H1 pictures but the have overall better color.
I see more noise in the FZ5 and less in the H1
the colors from the H1 are an little more to red and blue
the colors from the FZ5 are more to cyan and yellow.
thads my conclusion so far.
you thid an good job.
so thank you for comparing the both camera's.
demarren.
--
If you need an camera,Just go out and buy one.
Demarren
FZ5 User
 
boomz--

if they're 5 megpixels they oughta be like 1.4 to 2.6 megapixels. i have some with digital zoom, like a bird in the sky, that are around 800 megapixels, but none that are as small as yours.

do you think maybe they are being resized when you put them up on your server?

program mode is fine, but i don't think that automatically sets the NATURAL/STANDARD/VIVID modes on the FZ5. THose are set in the menu, and I believe (could be wrong) that they, in turn, control what gets reports in teh EXIF under CONTRAST/SATURATION/SHARPNESS.

In your pool pix, for example, these settings were "normal" in the Sony EXIF, but HIGH saturation and HARD sharpness in the FZ5 pix.

I think the PROGRAM mode idea is fine as far as it goes, but see note above regarding other settings in the cameras.

And I think you ought to use the IS on both cameras. Whichever is the best setting for that on the Sony, and S2 setting on the FZ5.

You're doing a fine job at a useful task so keep it up and know that it's much appreciated.
I, too, appreciate all your effort, though as I pointed out
elsewhere, when the comparisons are a little off, and the pictures
aren't full size 5 megapixel shots, and the settings are slightly
different, well, these things limit the usefulness of the pictures.
Thanks.

I know and that's why I'm trying to get help getting it correct.

Hence, the open book policy and letting everybody in on what's
going on.

I believe that the current photos are all 5 MP. So wondering why
you brought it up.

Putting it on program mode will show what is best for the camera
according to Sony and Panasonic. I guess the settings will have to
be different by allowing this.

I'm keeping in mind that the average user will be using the P-mode
more than the other modes.
may I suggest simplifying the process, picking a half-dozen varied
subject and shooting them carerfully with preferred settings in the
cameras?
Sorry, but what do you mean by 'preferred' settings? I kinda asked
myself that before I started this and decided again on the each
camera's program mode - the primary concern it to make sure that
other users will be able to repeat the settings at any given time,
hence using the preset factory Program Mode is the best way of
ensuring this.

If my concept is wrong, could you please explain a little more of
what you have in mind, thanks.
I guess that would be one wide shot, and one full tele (no digital
tele) of the same subject.
Didn't I do this already in all three different scenes ie Pool
shots, Day shots, & Night shots.

Then a street scene, stuff withing 50

OK I'll try to include a street scene for you.
feet or so, again a wide shot and a tele close up of some detail in
the scene.
Hmmm... this one is going to be tough. Maybe this won't happen. No
one I know wants their photo online to be scrutinised lol!

And a portrait, too, a least a snapshot of head and
shoulders, or headshot of some person. it's just a suggestion,
maybe not a great one at that.

Anyway, keep up the good work--
Thanks. I'll try .... :)

Cheers!
 
Oh, I wanted to add that I thought your personal comments were very useful too. That lens cap business is a mess on the FZ5. You can't tell whether it's on or about to fall off!
 
Lens cap about to fall off - You need to fasten it then! I thought the same with mine until I found out how to fasten it. It needs a twist (see markings of unlock and lock. If it is difficult, hold on to the thin part inside the adapter and twist the adapter itself so it locks (a lot smoother than forcing it onto the camera by a direct twist). When locked it will not be loose and fall off
 
I think you have made interesting comparison shots - and it's been educational to see this comparison develop with comments from other forum members. The Sony looks like a great camera too, maybe with a slightly sharper photo quality than the FZ5. It weighs almost twice though of the FZ5 (500 vs 300grams) which matter a lot to some of us, and should maybe be compared more with the FZ20? Anyway, I am very happy with my FZ5 so I checked out your thread mostly for curiosity (I will not switch).

Saw a review of the Sony here http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/H1/H1A.HTM and it gets good points there. It is a good looking camera for sure. The 2,5 inch LCD looks great!

Keep up the good work - it's always nice to see photos from Honolulu anyway (11 years since I was there last - how time flies)!
 

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