D7: Where is the enthusiasm?

Andreas P. · Jul 26, 2001

Homer,

One big plus of the F505V it that it delivers eye pleasing pictures right out of the camera (Kudos to the Sony engineers).
I am more impressed with the optics and features of the D7. The picture
quality is on par with the 505V and the 5MP let a lot of room for cropping.

Regards,

Andreas

Andreas P. · Jul 26, 2001

Pfnüsu,

Smile!

Well, i did something similar. I had the D7 on preorder for a good price (1150 USD). When i saw the D7 in a local store for a higher price i bought it.

Regards,

Andreas

Andreas P. · Jul 26, 2001

Hi Gerd,

Congrats to your cam!

Gerd Waloszek said:
By the way, does anybody have experiences with close-up lenses
for the D7?

I tried a 5 diopter lens with the D7. Unfortunately the amount of CA was
not bearable.

Regards,

Andreas

Tom Crowning · Jul 27, 2001

dgrogers said:
dgrogers said:

crowning wrote:> > > > dgrogers wrote:> > > On most consumer digital cameras, aperture> > > settings don't change DOF much at all. Aperture controll isn't> > > good for much more than changing exposure. You seem to be able to> > > give the background a good blur while keeping the subject in> > > perfect focus with the D7, show me another digital camera which> > > costs less than the D30 that can do this.> > All cameras with Canons fast f/2.0 lens (there are many brands> > arround using this lens). Just take the size of the imager (2/3 for> > the 5MP imager, 1/1.8 for the 3MP imager, 1/2 for the 2MP imager)> > in relation to the max aperture and you can compute and compare the> > DOF.> > tc> > > > I own an S70 with an f/2.0 lens that looks identical to the Canon> lens, and it does not come close to comparing, not ever (unless I> take a macro shot). I have yet to see DOF like this on any> consumer camera from any of the galleries I've looked at from many> different cameras (including the G1). Maybe the 5.2 mp ccd is just> better for this.

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My 3MP f/2.0 combination (Casio QV-3500) isn't available this weekend, but if it's important for you I can take a picture with an older camera (f/3.2 1/2.7 imager) and post it here. Just to compare a little bit...
tc

Kate Smith · Jul 27, 2001

Bryan Biggers said:
George Reeves said:

Bryan Biggers said:

Yeah, I don't know what everyone is complaining about. On MY D7 the
battery life is excellent, I've never even had to change them. It
does not get hot at all either. It is also very lightweight.
Bryan

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Is it weather proof. It's very damp here in South Jersey.

George

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Sorry...but I don't like the colour....couldn't you make a pretty pink one for us girlies?
Kate

Tricia · Jul 27, 2001

Andreas, your pretty birds flew the coop! Are they gone for good, or just server problems?

Tricia

Andreas P. said:
Hi,

Where is the enthusiasm for the D7?

Regards,

Andreas

http://andmarpet.hypermart.net/PICT0038a.jpg

Kate Smith · Jul 27, 2001

Member said:
As a matter of interest, I got banned temporarily for 'flaming' Dr.
Gonzo, so a word of caution to you guys - count to ten and kick the
cat. It is, after all, Phil's forum.
Castigated and chastened, but still a fan of the D7.
Dave Roberts

Which cat should I kick Dave, I have a choice of 22! Perhaps I could rotate them on a daily basis until my D7 arrives!

Kate

Andreas P. · Jul 27, 2001

Tricia,

Yes i have recognized it this morning. My hypermart account seems to be not existing anymore.

One reason could be that i exceeded the permitted traffic quote?
There could be other reasons too...

Regards,

Andreas

Pfnüsu · Jul 27, 2001

Yup, the camera is available around here, this week i went to the camera shops instead of having lunch - every day a different one - and played around with the cam. Unfortunately SFr. 2000.- is the limit for me (it cost's 2498.- around here). So after some back and forth I finally decided to buy online....

Just hope my swedish is well enough (i've been there once for a week smile ) to understand the manual and software.

Regards,

Pfnüsu

Andreas P. said:
Pfnüsu,

Smile!
Well, i did something similar. I had the D7 on preorder for a good
price (1150 USD). When i saw the D7 in a local store for a higher
price i bought it.

Regards,

Andreas

Jack40001 · Jul 27, 2001

It fits in the back pocket of my pant and I still can sit comfortable. A lot of people get very excited when watching me shooting with it!
Jake.

KT said:
Bryan Biggers said:

George Reeves said:

Bryan Biggers said:

Yeah, I don't know what everyone is complaining about. On MY D7 the
battery life is excellent, I've never even had to change them. It
does not get hot at all either. It is also very lightweight.
Bryan

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Is it weather proof. It's very damp here in South Jersey.

George

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Sorry...but I don't like the colour....couldn't you make a pretty
pink one for us girlies?
Kate

Jack40001 · Jul 27, 2001

Homer said:
Dammit Bryan, maybe that's why there is a rumour around about build
quality!

Yes, it's very solid. If you drop it, it don't get damaged! And you don't hurt/damage what you drop it on. Further, it can stand a lot of heat and cold and also a lot of overvoltage.
Jake.

Homer40784 said:
Homer

Bryan Biggers said:

Agree, it would be a lot more fun if I had a camera. I made a
cardboard D7, but it just isn't the same. Appreciate any rumors
about who might have cameras. Bryan

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dgrogers · Jul 27, 2001

Tom Crowning said:
My 3MP f/2.0 combination (Casio QV-3500) isn't available this
weekend, but if it's important for you I can take a picture with an
older camera (f/3.2 1/2.7 imager) and post it here. Just to compare
a little bit...
tc

When you get your Casio back, I'd like to see how good its DOF is since it's fairly close to what I have (CCD and lens).

This is the best I could do without using macro mode. The house behind the flowers is about 100 yards away, and it's rare I get DOF anywhere close to this. Perhaps it's the way my camera focuses.
http://www.fototime.com/ {F1E82C56-16E5-4CCD-94B3-AA9066FC5494} picture.JPG

And just to spam a pic I posted

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1005&page=1&message=1321341

The blur in the background is actually the same house that's in the first pic, but this shot was taken in macro mode.

If Andreas is reading this, could you tell me how far away the wall in the background is from your bird (I can't remember what kind it is since yout pick isn't available anymore).

Thanks

Andreas P. · Jul 27, 2001

8-10 ft if i am remembering correct.

Gerd Waloszek · Jul 27, 2001

Andreas P. said:
Congrats to your cam!

Andreas P. said:

By the way, does anybody have experiences with close-up lenses
for the D7?

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I tried a 5 diopter lens with the D7. Unfortunately the amount of
CA was
not bearable.

Regards,

Andreas

Hi Andreas,
Thanks for your reply. Perhaps a 3 diopter lens will give
better results (at the price of lower magnification, of course).
Regards, Gerd

Andreas P. · Jul 27, 2001

Gerd Waloszek said:
Thanks for your reply. Perhaps a 3 diopter lens will give
better results (at the price of lower magnification, of course).

Yes, i will give it a try.

Fred G. · Jul 27, 2001

Hi!

Andreas P. said:
Where is the enthusiasm for the D7?

no enthusiasm for me - I played around with the D7 in a local shop yesterday and am quite a bit disappointed:

My CF cards were not recognized (The guy in the shop said something about reformatting on a PC... but they work fine everywhere else)

AF is slower than I expected (ok, was a bit dark in the shop)

Camera (grip) is too small - could be that you can get used to it, but I found it difficult turning the dial (just next to the shutter release) and my thumb was always placed on the switches at the back.

Zoom is very stiff - difficult to zoom in with to fingers

but the main things (for me):

The framerate in the EVF is slow (12 Frames I guess, as the movie mode)

I think that is what was referred to as "delay"

EVF goes blank after a shot, so you cannot keep aiming at a target

btw: EVF was sharp even in the corners (maybe a bit CA)
build quality is ok (good) for a consumer cam, but don't compare it to E-10...

any similar experiences?

Fred

Diane B · Jul 28, 2001

Andreas P. said:
Hi,

Where is the enthusiasm for the D7?

Regards,

Andreas

SAD--I came over here just to see the pic of the hawk--and its gone (saw your problem in another thread). Hope it shows up elsewhere--what about samples/galleries when you find another place to upload to.

Andreas P. · Jul 29, 2001

http://www.pbase.com/image/209073.jpg

Regards,

Andreas

mong · Jul 29, 2001

Hei! Lei av å vente?

Try out http://www.cyberphoto.se They've got the D7 for sale at SEK 10.900 +mva. Fast delivery too!

:Mong

Geir Ove said:
I thinks most of us (at least me) am tired of the waiting,
anticipating stage... The D7 should have been in the Oslo Norway
stores last week, then they said this friday, today they announced
next week...

Reading Tegenfeldt's report, I am pretty sure the D7 will please
me. In the meantime I think the discussions around the camera
reflects peoples frustration while waiting.

And of course we have a some people that just seem to be here to
off-track discussions and post sour remarks....

Geir Ove

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