Going to UK in mid-March

Teera · Feb 9, 2005

I am from Bangkok and I will go to visit my dauther who is studying in London next March. I am not decided which cam I will bring with me: Kodak 14nx with 24-85 AFS G or D100 with 18-70 kit lens and I will have Sony V3 as a backup. I will spend altogher around 15 days in the UK. Here are some questions:

1. I want to sightseeing rural areas of Uk not too far from London. Where is the best place to go? Is the weather during the second half of March will open-up for nice lighting picture opportunites?

2. I am leaning towards D100 at the moment because it is some 200g lighter than the Kodak set but Jono's pics make me rethink. What is your opinions on this?
3. Is there any other one-lens-do-it-all that I should consider for this trip?
4. Where should I go in London besides tourist main attractions, of course?

Thanks in advance for helpful comments from nice people in this forum.
Teera

Jono Slack · Feb 9, 2005

Hi Teera

Teera said:
I am from Bangkok and I will go to visit my dauther who is studying
in London next March. I am not decided which cam I will bring with
me: Kodak 14nx with 24-85 AFS G or D100 with 18-70 kit lens and I
will have Sony V3 as a backup. I will spend altogher around 15 days
in the UK. Here are some questions:

1. I want to sightseeing rural areas of Uk not too far from London.
Where is the best place to go? Is the weather during the second
half of March will open-up for nice lighting picture opportunites?

Places to go is so difficult - if you want typical 'english' thatched cottages etc, then North Essex (Lavenham, Saffron Walden etc) - (Quentin's stamping ground) is a good place to go.

The weather is unpredictable, but if it's sunny it could hardly be nicer - flowers coming up, very nice.

Teera said:
2. I am leaning towards D100 at the moment because it is some 200g
lighter than the Kodak set but Jono's pics make me rethink. What
is your opinions on this?

I always regret it when I take something 'lighter' - always. 200g really isn't that much - If I were you I'd take the Kodak - you'll have more WA reach with the 24-85, which is nice and sharp - take the kodak!

Teera said:
3. Is there any other one-lens-do-it-all that I should consider
for this trip?

Quentin has been very kind about the nikkor 28-200 G lens - it's not terribly expensive, and you could, perhaps, take both.

I use the 24-120 VR lens myself, not as sharp as the 24-85, but the VR is useful and allows you to keep the aperture down to levels where the lens shows it's best.

Teera said:
4. Where should I go in London besides tourist main attractions, of
course?

Others can give you better advice here (I can only give you out of date advice on the best pubs!).

Have Fun!

Kind Regards
--
Jono Slack
http://www.slack.co.uk

Teera · Feb 9, 2005

Jono Slack said:
Hi Teera

I always regret it when I take something 'lighter' - always. 200g
really isn't that much - If I were you I'd take the Kodak - you'll
have more WA reach with the 24-85, which is nice and sharp - take
the kodak!

I haven't use D100 since I bought the Kodak but I brought it out for a test and comparison to a kokak yesterday. The D100 is a fine camera and put up a good fight but Kodak produces sweeter color and is much better in contrasty highlight scence.

Jono Slack said:
Jono Slack said:

3. Is there any other one-lens-do-it-all that I should consider
for this trip?

Click to expand...

Quentin has been very kind about the nikkor 28-200 G lens - it's
not terribly expensive, and you could, perhaps, take both.
I use the 24-120 VR lens myself, not as sharp as the 24-85, but the
VR is useful and allows you to keep the aperture down to levels
where the lens shows it's best.

Just sold my 24-120 VR. The one that I got produced blured images in the extreme top and bottom right corners. May be Nikon has solved this problem with the current line of production. What about other brands such as Tokina and Tamron?

Hope that I will produce some pics half as good as yours. If you publish your works as some suggested, I surely will buy one.
Thanks for the advice,
Teera

Quentin (UK) · Feb 9, 2005

Teeraq,

Quentin here

Teera said:
Jono Slack said:

Hi Teera

I always regret it when I take something 'lighter' - always. 200g
really isn't that much - If I were you I'd take the Kodak - you'll
have more WA reach with the 24-85, which is nice and sharp - take
the kodak!

Click to expand...

I agree with Jono - take the Kodak

Teera said:
I haven't use D100 since I bought the Kodak but I brought it out
for a test and comparison to a kokak yesterday. The D100 is a fine
camera and put up a good fight but Kodak produces sweeter color and
is much better in contrasty highlight scence.

Teera said:

Teera said:

3. Is there any other one-lens-do-it-all that I should consider
for this trip?

Click to expand...

Quentin has been very kind about the nikkor 28-200 G lens - it's
not terribly expensive, and you could, perhaps, take both.
I use the 24-120 VR lens myself, not as sharp as the 24-85, but the
VR is useful and allows you to keep the aperture down to levels
where the lens shows it's best.

Click to expand...

Jono says it all. the 28-200G (latest version) is very good. I mean, really very good and I'm fussy. Don't even think about a similar lens from the independents. The 28-200 works well in combination with the 50mm F1.4 or F1.8, which you can use for low light.

Teera said:
Just sold my 24-120 VR. The one that I got produced blured images
in the extreme top and bottom right corners. May be Nikon has
solved this problem with the current line of production. What
about other brands such as Tokina and Tamron?

I had a similar problem with a 24-120VR I once has, and I have foind the 28-200 to be a lot better (sharper): however, Jono's sample of the 24-120 is very good, so there is some sample variation with that lens.

Teera said:
Hope that I will produce some pics half as good as yours. If you
publish your works as some suggested, I surely will buy one.
Thanks for the advice,
Teera

Jono mentioned North Essex / Suffolk as good destinations not far from London, and I'd agree.as I live there

. Some villages / towns to visit might inlcude Thaxted, Lavenham Saffron Walden and try Audley End house near Saffron Walden, and of course Cambridge a little further out. Also you could go to Constable Country on the Essex / Suffolk border - try Dedham vale, and the town of Dedham itself, plus Flatford Mill, or visit Long Melford in suffolk where there are two country houses almiost next to each other - Melford Hall and Kentwell Hall.

Try this - you can eneter alternative searches:

http://www.letsgothere.co.uk/lgtnet/attraction/0018632-nat.aspx

--
Quentin
http://www.barleigh.com

DavidMillier · Feb 9, 2005

If you decide on the D100, the Sigma 18-125 (equiv 28-200) is a pretty good walkaround lens. It turns my D100 into a good snapshot camera which is sometimes more useful than lugging around the Kodak and a bag of lenses.

The D100 has another advantage over the Kodak - the battery won't run out!

Teera said:
Jono Slack said:

Hi Teera

I always regret it when I take something 'lighter' - always. 200g
really isn't that much - If I were you I'd take the Kodak - you'll
have more WA reach with the 24-85, which is nice and sharp - take
the kodak!

Click to expand...

I haven't use D100 since I bought the Kodak but I brought it out
for a test and comparison to a kokak yesterday. The D100 is a fine
camera and put up a good fight but Kodak produces sweeter color and
is much better in contrasty highlight scence.

Teera said:

Teera said:

3. Is there any other one-lens-do-it-all that I should consider
for this trip?

Click to expand...

Quentin has been very kind about the nikkor 28-200 G lens - it's
not terribly expensive, and you could, perhaps, take both.
I use the 24-120 VR lens myself, not as sharp as the 24-85, but the
VR is useful and allows you to keep the aperture down to levels
where the lens shows it's best.

Click to expand...

Just sold my 24-120 VR. The one that I got produced blured images
in the extreme top and bottom right corners. May be Nikon has
solved this problem with the current line of production. What
about other brands such as Tokina and Tamron?

Hope that I will produce some pics half as good as yours. If you
publish your works as some suggested, I surely will buy one.
Thanks for the advice,
Teera

DavidMillier · Feb 9, 2005

Quentin

Do you know if the 28-200G works well with the 14n? Or are we in italian flag territory...

D

Quentin (UK) said:
Quentin here

Teera said:

Jono Slack said:

Hi Teera

I always regret it when I take something 'lighter' - always. 200g
really isn't that much - If I were you I'd take the Kodak - you'll
have more WA reach with the 24-85, which is nice and sharp - take
the kodak!

Click to expand...

Click to expand...

I agree with Jono - take the Kodak

Quentin (UK) said:

I haven't use D100 since I bought the Kodak but I brought it out
for a test and comparison to a kokak yesterday. The D100 is a fine
camera and put up a good fight but Kodak produces sweeter color and
is much better in contrasty highlight scence.

Quentin (UK) said:

Quentin (UK) said:

3. Is there any other one-lens-do-it-all that I should consider
for this trip?

Click to expand...

Quentin has been very kind about the nikkor 28-200 G lens - it's
not terribly expensive, and you could, perhaps, take both.
I use the 24-120 VR lens myself, not as sharp as the 24-85, but the
VR is useful and allows you to keep the aperture down to levels
where the lens shows it's best.

Click to expand...

Click to expand...

Jono says it all. the 28-200G (latest version) is very good. I
mean, really very good and I'm fussy. Don't even think about a
similar lens from the independents. The 28-200 works well in
combination with the 50mm F1.4 or F1.8, which you can use for low
light.

Quentin (UK) said:

Just sold my 24-120 VR. The one that I got produced blured images
in the extreme top and bottom right corners. May be Nikon has
solved this problem with the current line of production. What
about other brands such as Tokina and Tamron?

Click to expand...

I had a similar problem with a 24-120VR I once has, and I have
foind the 28-200 to be a lot better (sharper): however, Jono's
sample of the 24-120 is very good, so there is some sample
variation with that lens.

Quentin (UK) said:

Hope that I will produce some pics half as good as yours. If you
publish your works as some suggested, I surely will buy one.
Thanks for the advice,
Teera

Click to expand...

Jono mentioned North Essex / Suffolk as good destinations not far
from London, and I'd agree.as I live there. Some villages /
towns to visit might inlcude Thaxted, Lavenham Saffron Walden and
try Audley End house near Saffron Walden, and of course Cambridge a
little further out. Also you could go to Constable Country on the
Essex / Suffolk border - try Dedham vale, and the town of Dedham
itself, plus Flatford Mill, or visit Long Melford in suffolk where
there are two country houses almiost next to each other - Melford
Hall and Kentwell Hall.

Try this - you can eneter alternative searches:

http://www.letsgothere.co.uk/lgtnet/attraction/0018632-nat.aspx

--
Quentin
http://www.barleigh.com

Flick · Feb 9, 2005

Take the Kodak in a large holster, with one mid range zoom and one other lens possibly. I took my 14nx abroad last year with the Nikkor 35-70 2.8 and the sigma 15-30. I'm a weak female with a bad back, but i found this light enough to carry all day.

I'm not familiar with Jono and Quentin's part of the world, but i lived in Kent many years ago, in Canterbury in fact. Beautiful city and a very unspoiled and old fashioned area, with oast houses, hop fields, orchards, bluebell woods and many quaint and picturesque villages.

The weather at that time of year should be bright and sunny a lot of the time, very clear and fresh, though you might get rain and maybe even snow...or you might get a heat wave.
Flick.

Teera said:
I am from Bangkok and I will go to visit my dauther who is studying
in London next March. I am not decided which cam I will bring with
me: Kodak 14nx with 24-85 AFS G or D100 with 18-70 kit lens and I
will have Sony V3 as a backup. I will spend altogher around 15 days
in the UK. Here are some questions:

1. I want to sightseeing rural areas of Uk not too far from London.
Where is the best place to go? Is the weather during the second
half of March will open-up for nice lighting picture opportunites?
2. I am leaning towards D100 at the moment because it is some 200g
lighter than the Kodak set but Jono's pics make me rethink. What
is your opinions on this?
3. Is there any other one-lens-do-it-all that I should consider
for this trip?
4. Where should I go in London besides tourist main attractions, of
course?

Thanks in advance for helpful comments from nice people in this
forum.
Teera

Teera · Feb 9, 2005

Quentin (UK) said:
Teeraq,
Quentin here

Umm, my name is Teera not Teeraq which means my darling in Thai ;> )

Quentin (UK) said:
I agree with Jono - take the Kodak

Yeah, I am rethinking of taking the Kodak to UK.

Quentin (UK) said:
Jono says it all. the 28-200G (latest version) is very good. I
mean, really very good and I'm fussy. Don't even think about a
similar lens from the independents. The 28-200 works well in
combination with the 50mm F1.4 or F1.8, which you can use for low
light.

I've never consider the 28-200 as its range and prices are too good to be true but if it is working alright, I'll get one.

Quentin (UK) said:
Jono mentioned North Essex / Suffolk as good destinations not far
from London, and I'd agree.as I live there. Some villages /
towns to visit might inlcude Thaxted, Lavenham Saffron Walden and
try Audley End house near Saffron Walden, and of course Cambridge a
little further out. Also you could go to Constable Country on the
Essex / Suffolk border - try Dedham vale, and the town of Dedham
itself, plus Flatford Mill, or visit Long Melford in suffolk where
there are two country houses almiost next to each other - Melford
Hall and Kentwell Hall.

Quentin (UK) said:
Try this - you can eneter alternative searches:

http://www.letsgothere.co.uk/lgtnet/attraction/0018632-nat.aspx

Thank Quentin for the very useful information, I am sure that I should be able to find time to visit some of these places.

Teera · Feb 9, 2005

DMillier said:
If you decide on the D100, the Sigma 18-125 (equiv 28-200) is a
pretty good walkaround lens. It turns my D100 into a good snapshot
camera which is sometimes more useful than lugging around the Kodak
and a bag of lenses.

The D100 has another advantage over the Kodak - the battery won't
run out!

I like some Sigma lenses, I got the Macro 105 and used to have 28-70 f2.8. I love both of them. Sigma 18-125 should be pretty light and fit my need very well.
Thanks,
Teera

Teera · Feb 9, 2005

Flick said:
Take the Kodak in a large holster, with one mid range zoom and one
other lens possibly. I took my 14nx abroad last year with the
Nikkor 35-70 2.8 and the sigma 15-30. I'm a weak female with a bad
back, but i found this light enough to carry all day.
I'm not familiar with Jono and Quentin's part of the world, but i
lived in Kent many years ago, in Canterbury in fact. Beautiful city
and a very unspoiled and old fashioned area, with oast houses, hop
fields, orchards, bluebell woods and many quaint and picturesque
villages.
The weather at that time of year should be bright and sunny a lot
of the time, very clear and fresh, though you might get rain and
maybe even snow...or you might get a heat wave.
Flick.

Hi Flick:

I like your Water pictures particularly the "unreality". Where did you take these pics. By the way, I'm not a weak female with bad back but a middle-age male with torn knee's cartilage. I already had three operations on my left knee and my doctor would hate to do it for the fourth time! I still remember those days when I had my hassie and bag full of lenses for a day or two of mountain hiking in Colorado where I went to study some 20 years ago. Your recommended place sound very interesting. I'll ask my dauther to include them in my trips if posible.

Flick · Feb 9, 2005

Teera said:
Hi Flick:
I like your Water pictures particularly the "unreality".

Thank you very much

Teera said:
Where did
you take these pics.

They were taken in Oxford, on the Oxford Canal.

By the way, I'm not a weak female with bad

Teera said:
back but a middle-age male with torn knee's cartilage. I already
had three operations on my left knee and my doctor would hate to do
it for the fourth time! I still remember those days when I had my
hassie and bag full of lenses for a day or two of mountain hiking
in Colorado where I went to study some 20 years ago.

I have a damaged knee too, from a road traffic accident in 1966.

Your

Teera said:
recommended place sound very interesting. I'll ask my dauther to
include them in my trips if posible.

Canterbury is not too far from London.

Shutterlouse · Feb 10, 2005

Teera,

be prepared to wrap up warm and wear layers. If you get a warm day you could find yourself in only a T-shirt and sweater. On the other hand it could snow! (Not often but every few years it does this). March is often windy and we say "April Showers" meaning that the weather is very changeable in April. The end of March may be similar.

Other peoples ideas of places to go are good but you might want to add

1) Brighton, a great place by the sea with fantastic light. About 1 hour on the train from London. Good place to hang out, interesting architecture

2) Wiltshire, for example the Vale of the White Horse, so called because of its ancient chalk carving in the ground. You might need a car to get around this area.

3) Oxford and oxfordshire. Near Oxford is Blenheim Palace which is worth a visit. The Chiltern hills of oxfordshire are really beautiful and can be reached by train. Car probably easier when you get out there

Flick · Feb 10, 2005

I'm mad, i live in Oxford, love it (one of the most beautiful cities on earth!) and never thought to mention it - like Parisians not visiting the Louvre!!!

Shutterlouse said:
Teera,

be prepared to wrap up warm and wear layers. If you get a warm day
you could find yourself in only a T-shirt and sweater. On the other
hand it could snow! (Not often but every few years it does this).
March is often windy and we say "April Showers" meaning that the
weather is very changeable in April. The end of March may be
similar.

Other peoples ideas of places to go are good but you might want to add

1) Brighton, a great place by the sea with fantastic light. About 1
hour on the train from London. Good place to hang out, interesting
architecture

2) Wiltshire, for example the Vale of the White Horse, so called
because of its ancient chalk carving in the ground. You might need
a car to get around this area.

3) Oxford and oxfordshire. Near Oxford is Blenheim Palace which is
worth a visit. The Chiltern hills of oxfordshire are really
beautiful and can be reached by train. Car probably easier when you
get out there

Quentin (UK) · Feb 10, 2005

David,

No idea I'm afraid. I got mine after upgrading my n to an nx.

On the NX its fine.

Quentin

DMillier said:
Do you know if the 28-200G works well with the 14n? Or are we in
italian flag territory...

D

Quentin (UK) said:

Quentin here

Teera said:

Jono Slack said:

Hi Teera

I always regret it when I take something 'lighter' - always. 200g
really isn't that much - If I were you I'd take the Kodak - you'll
have more WA reach with the 24-85, which is nice and sharp - take
the kodak!

Click to expand...

Click to expand...

I agree with Jono - take the Kodak

DavidMillier said:

I haven't use D100 since I bought the Kodak but I brought it out
for a test and comparison to a kokak yesterday. The D100 is a fine
camera and put up a good fight but Kodak produces sweeter color and
is much better in contrasty highlight scence.

DavidMillier said:

DavidMillier said:

3. Is there any other one-lens-do-it-all that I should consider
for this trip?

Click to expand...

Quentin has been very kind about the nikkor 28-200 G lens - it's
not terribly expensive, and you could, perhaps, take both.
I use the 24-120 VR lens myself, not as sharp as the 24-85, but the
VR is useful and allows you to keep the aperture down to levels
where the lens shows it's best.

Click to expand...

Click to expand...

Jono says it all. the 28-200G (latest version) is very good. I
mean, really very good and I'm fussy. Don't even think about a
similar lens from the independents. The 28-200 works well in
combination with the 50mm F1.4 or F1.8, which you can use for low
light.

DavidMillier said:

Just sold my 24-120 VR. The one that I got produced blured images
in the extreme top and bottom right corners. May be Nikon has
solved this problem with the current line of production. What
about other brands such as Tokina and Tamron?

Click to expand...

I had a similar problem with a 24-120VR I once has, and I have
foind the 28-200 to be a lot better (sharper): however, Jono's
sample of the 24-120 is very good, so there is some sample
variation with that lens.

DavidMillier said:

Hope that I will produce some pics half as good as yours. If you
publish your works as some suggested, I surely will buy one.
Thanks for the advice,
Teera

Click to expand...

Jono mentioned North Essex / Suffolk as good destinations not far
from London, and I'd agree.as I live there. Some villages /
towns to visit might inlcude Thaxted, Lavenham Saffron Walden and
try Audley End house near Saffron Walden, and of course Cambridge a
little further out. Also you could go to Constable Country on the
Essex / Suffolk border - try Dedham vale, and the town of Dedham
itself, plus Flatford Mill, or visit Long Melford in suffolk where
there are two country houses almiost next to each other - Melford
Hall and Kentwell Hall.

Try this - you can eneter alternative searches:

http://www.letsgothere.co.uk/lgtnet/attraction/0018632-nat.aspx

--
Quentin
http://www.barleigh.com

Click to expand...

--
Quentin
http://www.barleigh.com

Teera · Feb 10, 2005

Now I'm get real excited to visit all these places. Thanks again for the recommendation. Will let you know about the trip and will post some pics when I get back.
Thanks again,
Teera

Flick said:
Shutterlouse said:

Teera,

be prepared to wrap up warm and wear layers. If you get a warm day
you could find yourself in only a T-shirt and sweater. On the other
hand it could snow! (Not often but every few years it does this).
March is often windy and we say "April Showers" meaning that the
weather is very changeable in April. The end of March may be
similar.

Other peoples ideas of places to go are good but you might want to add

1) Brighton, a great place by the sea with fantastic light. About 1
hour on the train from London. Good place to hang out, interesting
architecture

2) Wiltshire, for example the Vale of the White Horse, so called
because of its ancient chalk carving in the ground. You might need
a car to get around this area.

3) Oxford and oxfordshire. Near Oxford is Blenheim Palace which is
worth a visit. The Chiltern hills of oxfordshire are really
beautiful and can be reached by train. Car probably easier when you
get out there

Click to expand...

Quentin (UK) · Feb 11, 2005

Hello darling...I meen Teera

If you can't do them all, then bear in mind the "East Anglia Option" can take in Cambridge which is, like Oxford, a university town with many anciant collges to enjoy.

Quentin

Teera said:
Flick said:

Shutterlouse said:

Teera,

be prepared to wrap up warm and wear layers. If you get a warm day
you could find yourself in only a T-shirt and sweater. On the other
hand it could snow! (Not often but every few years it does this).
March is often windy and we say "April Showers" meaning that the
weather is very changeable in April. The end of March may be
similar.

Other peoples ideas of places to go are good but you might want to add

1) Brighton, a great place by the sea with fantastic light. About 1
hour on the train from London. Good place to hang out, interesting
architecture

2) Wiltshire, for example the Vale of the White Horse, so called
because of its ancient chalk carving in the ground. You might need
a car to get around this area.

3) Oxford and oxfordshire. Near Oxford is Blenheim Palace which is
worth a visit. The Chiltern hills of oxfordshire are really
beautiful and can be reached by train. Car probably easier when you
get out there

Click to expand...

Click to expand...

--
Quentin
http://www.barleigh.com

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