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**** Rijken said:
If they have a wacky forum...
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They're a great bunch of characters - get an SD9, you'll fit right in ;-)

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Hi. I just post what I know of the software.

In "Digi-came Watch", Junichi Date recommends SilkyPix to avoid jagged edge problem of E-300. He says it is a very sophisticated software loaded with many parameters that is capable of making pictures of different tastes. Without altering any parameters (except development quality to the highest 99), its RAW development was the most natural compared to Olympus Studio and Master. If there is a drawback, it is the lack of vividness for it apparently avoids breakdown by subdueing color with highly saturated highlight parts.
http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/review/2005/01/05/692.html

(This article has been mentioned already in this forum, but I re-post it anyway... You can see side-by-side samples of out of camera results, Olympus Master, Olympus Studio, and SilkyPix. Very useful. I might try translating if there is some time left during this weekend.)

The Q&A section of manufacturer's site says release date of English version is undetermined for now (question number 7).

When downloaded, one can choose to use it either as a free version or a trial version. As a free version, there is no expiration date, but the parameters are limited. By entering "trial product key", software's full potential can be experienced for 14 days. The trial code is provided in the dialog box when the software is first loaded, and the user has to choose how he/she wants to use it by choosing from two buttons below. (In walk-through screen, "as trial version" button was displayed to the left, and " as a freeware" was to the right. But since some softwares switch choices, I rather not say click one on the left/right. I just suspect that "as trial version" would always appear longer because of number of characters involved regardless of presence of Japanese font in PC, and go from there.) The good news is after 14 days, it can still be used as a free version :)
 
Thanks very much for the information. It was your post of this comparison that made me go look for the SilkyPix software. Maybe there is hope for an english version then.

I would love it if you could do a summary translation of the link you posted. It would be very interesting to know what they found, likes and dislikes.

I must be using the trial version because all options seem to me available. It took me a while to figure out which links to press on their website to get the software to download. I was just wingin it!

Thanks again, you are resposible for this entire thread really!

Leah Hallett
benishouga said:
Hi. I just post what I know of the software.

In "Digi-came Watch", Junichi Date recommends SilkyPix to avoid
jagged edge problem of E-300. He says it is a very sophisticated
software loaded with many parameters that is capable of making
pictures of different tastes. Without altering any parameters
(except development quality to the highest 99), its RAW development
was the most natural compared to Olympus Studio and Master. If
there is a drawback, it is the lack of vividness for it apparently
avoids breakdown by subdueing color with highly saturated highlight
parts.
http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/review/2005/01/05/692.html
(This article has been mentioned already in this forum, but I
re-post it anyway... You can see side-by-side samples of out of
camera results, Olympus Master, Olympus Studio, and SilkyPix. Very
useful. I might try translating if there is some time left during
this weekend.)

The Q&A section of manufacturer's site says release date of English
version is undetermined for now (question number 7).

When downloaded, one can choose to use it either as a free version
or a trial version. As a free version, there is no expiration date,
but the parameters are limited. By entering "trial product key",
software's full potential can be experienced for 14 days. The trial
code is provided in the dialog box when the software is first
loaded, and the user has to choose how he/she wants to use it by
choosing from two buttons below. (In walk-through screen, "as trial
version" button was displayed to the left, and " as a freeware" was
to the right. But since some softwares switch choices, I rather not
say click one on the left/right. I just suspect that "as trial
version" would always appear longer because of number of characters
involved regardless of presence of Japanese font in PC, and go from
there.) The good news is after 14 days, it can still be used as a
free version :)
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Thanks for posting this. The Silkypix samples posted above and on the Japanese website look very promising. I never would have suspected that the 100% crop of the cardinal was at ISO 400. The noise has a finer grain pattern - more like an ISO 100 shot with the noise filter disabled..
benishouga said:
http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/review/2005/01/05/692.html
(This article has been mentioned already in this forum, but I
re-post it anyway... You can see side-by-side samples of out of
camera results, Olympus Master, Olympus Studio, and SilkyPix. Very
useful. I might try translating if there is some time left during
this weekend.)

The Q&A section of manufacturer's site says release date of English
version is undetermined for now (question number 7).
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Thanks for the post. I downloaded the program and am trying to slog through it. I managed to finally download the manual, translate it using the Google translater, copy that over to a MS Word document. Now I have to do some print screens so that I can get the graphics that goes with the text. Just trying to understand the English translation is a chore though as it is mostly word for word and has to be interpreted to make sense.

I do think that the results from the RAW conversions look very promising though. -

By the way, I saw that it is discounted until near the end of January for about 8800 yen. The regular price seems to be about 1000 yen more.
Leah said:
I found this Raw conversion software from a thread posted here and
thought I'd try it out. It is really good. The color, detail and
noise is excellent...better than PS CS and Viewer. The color is
much better than PSCS and the noise levels/speed is better than
both of them. It must have an excellent sharpening routine.

Problem with the program is ...it's in Japanese. You can figure it
out if you play with it a bit though. I didn't have to adjust the
color AT ALL. I sent them an email asking if they have any plans
for making an English version...one can hope.

I uploaded the software here if you would like to try it. Adam-T,
it would be great to hear your opinion...I know, it's in Japanese.
It was a free download. It may have a time limit, but I can't read
the info:

http://www.ldhphoto.com/Progs/
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Hi.
Leah said:
Thanks very much for the information. It was your post of this
comparison that made me go look for the SilkyPix software. Maybe
there is hope for an english version then.
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Urr, I really don't recall posting anything except the E-300 review... so is that... it?
Leah said:
I would love it if you could do a summary translation of the link
you posted. It would be very interesting to know what they found,
likes and dislikes.
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Since it is not a software review, there is not much. But it's coming.
Leah said:
I must be using the trial version because all options seem to me
available. It took me a while to figure out which links to press
on their website to get the software to download. I was just
wingin it!
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Lucky! I used to do the same when I was studying English, and still do it in numerous other languages thanks to the internet. Love those mazes and critical decision moments ;)
Leah said:
Thanks again, you are resposible for this entire thread really!

Leah Hallett
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...actually, such praise makes me want to hide in a hole. But if that is really true, de nada. I have learned a lot from this forum, enjoy pics all the time, and simply want to contribute whatever I can...
 
"Let's Go Digital!" Olympus E-300
-Operation E-300 Image Quality Improvement by Junichi Date
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+Jaggies

Compared to 8 megapixels E-300 carries, jaggies in outputs are rather noticeable. Changing sharpness setting did not improve the situation.

So, how about RAW? Three RAW development softwares available at the time of writing are:
1) Olympus Master included with E-300
2) Olympus Studio sold searately
3) SilkyPix Developer Studio 1.0 from Ichikawa Soft Laboratory

Olympus Master

Even though its edge enhancement is slightly weaker than in-camera, resulting jpeg images appear more resolved. But there is no obvious improvement in jagged lines, and false colors are visible where lines are tight on the chart.

Olympus Studio 1.2

It has a variety of features such as camera control and virtual light box, and also comes with more sophisticated RAW development algorithm than Olympus Master. 30-day trial version is available from Olympus E-system HomePage so pre-purchase comparison with Olympus Master is possible.

Initial setting of Olympus Studio RAW Development Engine is "High Speed". When set to "High Function", "Noise Cancellation" and "False Color Suppression" parameters become available. By setting those two "0", white outlines from edge enhancement gets thinner, resulting in very elegant output.

Unfortunatelly, as apparent in whiskers of cat and patterns of parrot feather, jaggies are still noticeable. There is less noise-reduction and loss of detail, so images look more natural, but that is it. Not much can be expected in terms of smoother lines.

SILKYPIX Developer Studio 1.0

The feature-loaded software handles RAW from both DSLR and high-end compact digital cameras. Number of adjustable parameters are surprisingly high. Not to mention the amount of edge-enhancement and noise-reduction, pictures can even be developed using different settings such as "normal", "memory-color 1", and "skin tone 1". It is sold online, and full product version can be tried for 14 days.

Because of numerous parameters involved, a wide variety of results are possible, but for this test, all were kept at default with the exception of development accuracy that was set to the highest 99. Upon first glance, edges might seem a little soft, but jaggies are gone. Even when enlarged, it looks natural rather than digital. Those who prefer sharper images can tweak edge-enhancement parameter. However, note the lower bright yellow part of the parrot's neck becoming slightly white. The software seems to subdue color with highly saturated highlight area, and thus comes out a little short on vividness.

+Noise

E-300 displays more noise than other DSLR. But by utilizing noise reduction softwares, noise can be suppressed to an extent while avoiding side-effects like loss of detail as much as possible.

Using "Neat Image" and " Noise Ninja 2", ISO 400/800/1600 jpeg images are treated. At ISO 400 level, by keeping luminance noise removal threshold and application amount minimum, loss of detail can be kept pretty much un-noticeable. But with ISO 800 and above, that loss of detail is unavoidable. Neat Image is the one widely known, but in case of automated processing, Noise Ninja 2 tends to yield better results. It also offers brush tool to reduce noise in certain part of image or cancel noise reduction instead.
 
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