Compare G3/5 with G6

omarameen · Nov 20, 2004

I have been comparing the sample pictures of G3 and G6 on this web site. I feel that the G6 picture are less "vibrant"; I think the G3 pictures seem more realistic while the colour balance, saturation and contrast seem a bit off with the G6 in comparison. Any ideas?

sueanne · Nov 20, 2004

I think the G6 colors are more on the 'natural' and some prefer the vivid setting. However if using RAW the colors can be changed to your liking.

I think my A80 did better with colors but the softness was there...

if we could only have everything

sue anne
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omarameen said:
I have been comparing the sample pictures of G3 and G6 on this web
site. I feel that the G6 picture are less "vibrant"; I think the
G3 pictures seem more realistic while the colour balance,
saturation and contrast seem a bit off with the G6 in comparison.
Any ideas?

Philip Corlis · Nov 20, 2004

Sueanne is right - if you want to punch up the color, use the vivid setting - or handle it in post processing. I can tell you my G6 is head and shoulders above my (now sold) G5 in image sharpness, lack of purple fringing, and noise. I don't know how Canon added 2 megapixels and made a sharper, smoother image - but I'm one happy camper.

By the way - I like the new body design and the layout of the controls - another improvement over the G5. Now some folks wish the G6 was black - but silver should keep the electronics cooler and that works for me.

I hope this helps.

Phil

neuron09 · Nov 20, 2004

I agree with Philip and sue anne for the most part. Having both a G3 and G6, I think the G6 colors are truer to the actual scene. The G3 tends to oversaturate reds and greens a bit, and I've had difficulty recovering blown reds in flowers, for example, with the G3. I prefer having more control on saturation after the fact, and for that, the G6 wins. Living in the Southwest, and liking to photograph scenics at all times of the year (especially during the August "monsoon" season), I am actually happy that the G6 is silver for deflecting heat, which should help reduce sensor noise.

Philip Corlis said:
Sueanne is right - if you want to punch up the color, use the vivid
setting - or handle it in post processing. I can tell you my G6 is
head and shoulders above my (now sold) G5 in image sharpness, lack
of purple fringing, and noise. I don't know how Canon added 2
megapixels and made a sharper, smoother image - but I'm one happy
camper.

By the way - I like the new body design and the layout of the
controls - another improvement over the G5. Now some folks wish the
G6 was black - but silver should keep the electronics cooler and
that works for me.

I hope this helps.

Phil

bauerman · Nov 20, 2004

omarameen said:
I have been comparing the sample pictures of G3 and G6 on this web
site. I feel that the G6 picture are less "vibrant"; I think the
G3 pictures seem more realistic while the colour balance,
saturation and contrast seem a bit off with the G6 in comparison.
Any ideas?

I'm sure that people that own the 1D or the 20D are just ticked that they have a bunch of BLACK, over-heated cameras! Come on guys......... we all know that black is better.....

--
bauerman
http://www.bauerman.galleries.photoshare.co.nz

Pat · Nov 20, 2004

bauerman said:
I'm sure that people that own the 1D or the 20D are just ticked
that they have a bunch of BLACK, over-heated cameras! Come on
guys......... we all know that black is better.....

You're joking, right? The color of the camera means diddley.

Except, it is true that black absorbs heat more readily than other colors, and warm sensors are more prone to noise.

--
Pat

bauerman · Nov 20, 2004

Pat said:
bauerman said:

I'm sure that people that own the 1D or the 20D are just ticked
that they have a bunch of BLACK, over-heated cameras! Come on
guys......... we all know that black is better.....

Click to expand...

You're joking, right? The color of the camera means diddley.

Except, it is true that black absorbs heat more readily than other
colors, and warm sensors are more prone to noise.

--
Pat

I was just ribbing the G6 crowd that is telling themselves a lot of things as to why silver is ok for a camera color.....heat being the one that I find funny.....the heat difference between a black G6 and the silver G6 would be negligable.......I guarantee it.

Picture quality is what counts - but my personal preference would be black......as would a lot of people. A good example of that would be the black G2 - it still garners a higher price than it's silver twin - mainly because of its more desirable black color.

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bauerman
http://www.bauerman.galleries.photoshare.co.nz

Pat · Nov 20, 2004

Oh, ok.

But you know, metal is more conductive of heat, and so the G6 benefits greatly from its plastic/composite light body -- perhaps a good reason why it produces relatively noiseless images. :-D

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Pat

neuron09 · Nov 20, 2004

Having lived in Tucson, AZ for several summers and having both silver and dark green cars in the family, I guarantee that the silver one did not get as hot in the sun as the dark green one. CCDs used for scientific imaging are cooled for a reason-- to reduce sensor noise. Now I'm not aware of any study that has shown an increase in sensor noise of a black bodied camera over a silver bodied one, but having hiked (alot) in the Sonoran desert in August (at ~~105 F), I would not be surprised if there was a difference (although it would likely be neglible with ISO 50 and the fast shutter speeds of those conditions).~~

bauerman said:
Pat said:

bauerman said:

I'm sure that people that own the 1D or the 20D are just ticked
that they have a bunch of BLACK, over-heated cameras! Come on
guys......... we all know that black is better.....

Click to expand...

You're joking, right? The color of the camera means diddley.

Except, it is true that black absorbs heat more readily than other
colors, and warm sensors are more prone to noise.

--
Pat

Click to expand...

I was just ribbing the G6 crowd that is telling themselves a lot of
things as to why silver is ok for a camera color.....heat being the
one that I find funny.....the heat difference between a black G6
and the silver G6 would be negligable.......I guarantee it.

Picture quality is what counts - but my personal preference would
be black......as would a lot of people. A good example of that
would be the black G2 - it still garners a higher price than it's
silver twin - mainly because of its more desirable black color.

--
bauerman
http://www.bauerman.galleries.photoshare.co.nz

Bill Palumbo · Nov 20, 2004

Yip...just like the new limited edition black Digital Rebel. I just ordered one to keep my G5 company;-) I don't expect these black versions to be available for long. Picture quality is #1 but camera color is also a factor for some people - like me.

Forbes · Nov 21, 2004

I think G6 is at least as good. I don't think the G5 has the left side/right side soft corners issue that G6 has on some models. Overall, G6 images I've seen are very good, and the camera is faster than its predecessors. Also comes with an external charger, a real plus. G6 has the lowest PF of the three models. Still, I really like the look, feel, and image quality of G5, overall. D

omarameen said:
I have been comparing the sample pictures of G3 and G6 on this web
site. I feel that the G6 picture are less "vibrant"; I think the
G3 pictures seem more realistic while the colour balance,
saturation and contrast seem a bit off with the G6 in comparison.
Any ideas?

--
Regards, D Forbes
Orange County, California

http://www.DForbesRowanPhotos.OrangeCountyandSurrounding.PhotoShare.co.nz
Eh-Eighty: As Qrtan says, a Gem! It's a terrific camera, my favorite to carry!

Gee-Five (There! Now I cannot be accused of harming newbie camera searches): Has great features along with excellent image sharpness, color response & latitude -- It's easy to hold with either left or right hand, offers solid build and it's black!
D. F. R.

sueanne · Nov 21, 2004

of an A80 - the hand grip is where the battery is - I think the G6 feels lighter than my A80 and does everything like my A80 but better - of course, its the G series

Maybe they should of had a black body and a silver handgrip ;0

sue anne
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Forbes said:
omarameen said:

I have been comparing the sample pictures of G3 and G6 on this web
site. I feel that the G6 picture are less "vibrant"; I think the
G3 pictures seem more realistic while the colour balance,
saturation and contrast seem a bit off with the G6 in comparison.
Any ideas?

Click to expand...

--
Regards, D Forbes
Orange County, California

http://www.DForbesRowanPhotos.OrangeCountyandSurrounding.PhotoShare.co.nz
Eh-Eighty: As Qrtan says, a Gem! It's a terrific camera, my
favorite to carry!

Gee-Five (There! Now I cannot be accused of harming newbie camera
searches): Has great features along with excellent image sharpness,
color response & latitude -- It's easy to hold with either left or
right hand, offers solid build and it's black!
D. F. R.

Adam-T · Nov 21, 2004

Forbes said:
I think G6 is at least as good. I don't think the G5 has the left
side/right side soft corners issue that G6 has on some models.

some did as did some G3s - my first G5's left side at full wide would make ANY G6 owner jump for joy

they did well with the coatings on that lens unit to reduce PF, now why didn't they do that for the G5?, but then the G6 should never have been released with a lens starting at 35mm, they should have gone the whole hog and made a 28-140 lens..

It would be interesting to see a G3 or G5 FITTED with that G6 lens unit , in fact if a current Silver G3 goes back for lens repairs, would it be fitted with a G6 lens? - it would be interesting.

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Please ignore the Typos, I'm the world's worst Typist

nille · Nov 21, 2004

bauerman said:
omarameen said:

I have been comparing the sample pictures of G3 and G6 on this web
site. I feel that the G6 picture are less "vibrant"; I think the
G3 pictures seem more realistic while the colour balance,
saturation and contrast seem a bit off with the G6 in comparison.
Any ideas?

Click to expand...

I'm sure that people that own the 1D or the 20D are just ticked
that they have a bunch of BLACK, over-heated cameras! Come on
guys......... we all know that black is better.....

--
bauerman
http://www.bauerman.galleries.photoshare.co.nz

Please do not get into that stupid "black is better thatn grey" discussion.

We had that just for a 1000 times.

I like PINK.

bauerman · Nov 21, 2004

nille said:
bauerman said:

omarameen said:

I have been comparing the sample pictures of G3 and G6 on this web
site. I feel that the G6 picture are less "vibrant"; I think the
G3 pictures seem more realistic while the colour balance,
saturation and contrast seem a bit off with the G6 in comparison.
Any ideas?

Click to expand...

I'm sure that people that own the 1D or the 20D are just ticked
that they have a bunch of BLACK, over-heated cameras! Come on
guys......... we all know that black is better.....

--
bauerman
http://www.bauerman.galleries.photoshare.co.nz

Click to expand...

Please do not get into that stupid "black is better thatn grey"
discussion.

We had that just for a 1000 times.

I like PINK.

It was brought up at the beginning of this thread by people that were trying to tell themselves why silver was better..........
--
bauerman
http://www.bauerman.galleries.photoshare.co.nz

Lucem · Nov 21, 2004

Don't even dare to upset Nill, he is THE inventor of the hyperfocal technique. ;-)
And now is moderating the forums.

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Scott Skinner · Nov 21, 2004

I am glad my G6 is silver =)

imbsysop · Nov 21, 2004

Forbes said:
I think G6 is at least as good. I don't think the G5 has the left
side/right side soft corners issue that G6 has on some models.

I still would like to read a good explanation why this difference G5/G6, especially as the G5 & the G6 share the same lens system, if I'm not mistaken ..
Would this boil down to a more sloppy design/assembling of the G6 ?
just wondering ...

Forbes said:
Overall, G6 images I've seen are very good, and the camera is
faster than its predecessors. etc ..

Hoang Pham · Nov 21, 2004

ok once and for all... G3/G5 to G6 isn't an upgrade
now G3/G5 to 300D or above that's an upgrade
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too lazy to make a site so i put my pics at
http://www.xanga.com/nviati

neuron09 · Nov 21, 2004

Have to disagree, G3 to G6 is a reasonable upgrade, IF you want to do a lot of printing above 8 x 10 (or have freedom to crop)-- the extra resolution IS real in big prints. If not, then it is probably not worthwhile. You have to accept that there are people who have been in 35 mm for approaching 30 years (me, for example), who do not want to fall into the dSLR trap of always wanting more lenses, etc-- there are people that like the freedom of limited equipment (and still great image quality, in most instances) to focus on the image/composition, rather than the equipment. It was my experience with 35 mm (an addiction, if you will!), that reminded me why I love photography with (first) my G3 and (now) with my G6.

Regarding cornering blurring, I actually see it in my G3, but not G6. I wonder if it is some alignment issue with the lens / sensor-- that there is not a lot of margin for error in centering the lens over the sensor. Because of having become aware of this with my G3, I looked very carefully on getting my G6 and did many test shots in the first week, and did not see it like others on this forum have.

Hoang Pham said:
ok once and for all... G3/G5 to G6 isn't an upgrade
now G3/G5 to 300D or above that's an upgrade
--
too lazy to make a site so i put my pics at
http://www.xanga.com/nviati

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