good shoot at indoor car model.

[yongweisheon]

hi guys,

I have been see alot of people shooting the car model in a very nice exposure between the background and the object. example http://www.dpgallery.com/portal/autoshow_2004/showgirls/01/tada04_sg_023.htm .

but during the time i was shooting with my canon 10D , 28-135 IS , 550EX, i can get it done well, let said i used the 135 mm focal, with flash , how slow shutter i can go to get the background and the object good in exposure? normally i will only get the object in bright and backgorund in black .

please give me advise? before this i used the 70-200 F2.8 , also have the same problem, actually how slow sutter i can go ? and i want shart,

 

[Guillaume paris2]

as it limits the shutter speed to no lower than 1/60, cutting almost all ambient light from the image, so you only have the flash providing the light. That explains the dark background and the harsh light only on the subject.

Use Av mode, put the compensation under zero, or the picture will be overexposed because ambient light and flash will add up too much. So, dial compensation to -1, and shoot the picture. The ambient light will provide colors for the background, and the flash, the main light.

If there's enough ambient light, you can also try the contrary: Av with compensation at zero, and the flash compensation at -1, to have mainly the ambiant light in the picture, but a little more emphasis/pop on the subject.

As long as you don't overexpose the flash pictures like on the gallery you showed, it'll be fine. I find those shots extremely bright and white dresses look burnt out. Yuck!

Guillaume
http://www.at-sight.com

 

[peteb]

You are relying on flash too much. What you need to do is capture more abient light, use the flash to fill and stop some camera shake.

I would recommend a fast prime for your shooting. Rather than spending on the 70-200 2.8 check what focal lengths you are shooting. I'd bet almost everything could have been well covered with an 85/1.8 and 50/1.4 or 1.8

The amount of light these lenses will get in will ensure plenty of natural colour, plus they will reduce DOF nicely for the portrait type work you are effectively doing.

For most of the shots I'd imagine a large aperture, 1/30s, ISO200 and a little -FEC flash would have done wonders.

hi guys,
I have been see alot of people shooting the car model in a very
nice exposure between the background and the object. example
http://www.dpgallery.com/portal/autoshow_2004/showgirls/01/tada04_sg_023.htm .

but during the time i was shooting with my canon 10D , 28-135 IS ,
550EX, i can get it done well, let said i used the 135 mm focal,
with flash , how slow shutter i can go to get the background and
the object good in exposure? normally i will only get the object in
bright and backgorund in black .

please give me advise? before this i used the 70-200 F2.8 , also
have the same problem, actually how slow sutter i can go ? and i
want shart,

--
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[The Krakken]

It seems you couldnt addjust the shutter speed too much, but could you have dialed down the exposure some?? Or like others have suggested, set EC to -1 (you can even get away with 1.33 in RAW), so that the flash is not so prominent.

Also, look to invest in a good diffuser while you are at it, or try to bounce the flash (might not be possible in a garage)....

hi guys,
I have been see alot of people shooting the car model in a very
nice exposure between the background and the object. example
http://www.dpgallery.com/portal/autoshow_2004/showgirls/01/tada04_sg_023.htm .

but during the time i was shooting with my canon 10D , 28-135 IS ,
550EX, i can get it done well, let said i used the 135 mm focal,
with flash , how slow shutter i can go to get the background and
the object good in exposure? normally i will only get the object in
bright and backgorund in black .

please give me advise? before this i used the 70-200 F2.8 , also
have the same problem, actually how slow sutter i can go ? and i
want shart,

--
'Compare it to WHAT? To the D2H? Why?

--phil askey on the 1D Mark II comparisons'

 

[yongweisheon]

hi guys,

Thank it will help me on tonight , thank , anywhere can i used the flash together with the IS ?

rgds
YONG.

Also, look to invest in a good diffuser while you are at it, or try
to bounce the flash (might not be possible in a garage)....

hi guys,
I have been see alot of people shooting the car model in a very
nice exposure between the background and the object. example
http://www.dpgallery.com/portal/autoshow_2004/showgirls/01/tada04_sg_023.htm .

but during the time i was shooting with my canon 10D , 28-135 IS ,
550EX, i can get it done well, let said i used the 135 mm focal,
with flash , how slow shutter i can go to get the background and
the object good in exposure? normally i will only get the object in
bright and backgorund in black .

please give me advise? before this i used the 70-200 F2.8 , also
have the same problem, actually how slow sutter i can go ? and i
want shart,

--
'Compare it to WHAT? To the D2H? Why?

--phil askey on the 1D Mark II comparisons'

 

[peteb]

Flash and IS are fine together.

rgds
YONG.

Also, look to invest in a good diffuser while you are at it, or try
to bounce the flash (might not be possible in a garage)....

hi guys,
I have been see alot of people shooting the car model in a very
nice exposure between the background and the object. example
http://www.dpgallery.com/portal/autoshow_2004/showgirls/01/tada04_sg_023.htm .

but during the time i was shooting with my canon 10D , 28-135 IS ,
550EX, i can get it done well, let said i used the 135 mm focal,
with flash , how slow shutter i can go to get the background and
the object good in exposure? normally i will only get the object in
bright and backgorund in black .

please give me advise? before this i used the 70-200 F2.8 , also
have the same problem, actually how slow sutter i can go ? and i
want shart,

--
'Compare it to WHAT? To the D2H? Why?

--phil askey on the 1D Mark II comparisons'

--
http://public.fotki.com/wibble/public_display/

 

[yongweisheon]

hi ,

after i using the technique you teach me here , still cant get well pic, i used TV mode , set the shutter to 30 and ISO 400, but when i take photo in the model it will change to 10, and cause the photo not so sharp.

another thing , if a object under a strong backlighting , i should set the EV to -EV then the FE to -EV also , the only can get the object with flash same exposure with the background??

rgds
YONG.

as it limits the shutter speed to no lower than 1/60, cutting
almost all ambient light from the image, so you only have the flash
providing the light. That explains the dark background and the
harsh light only on the subject.
Use Av mode, put the compensation under zero, or the picture will
be overexposed because ambient light and flash will add up too
much. So, dial compensation to -1, and shoot the picture. The
ambient light will provide colors for the background, and the
flash, the main light.
If there's enough ambient light, you can also try the contrary: Av
with compensation at zero, and the flash compensation at -1, to
have mainly the ambiant light in the picture, but a little more
emphasis/pop on the subject.
As long as you don't overexpose the flash pictures like on the
gallery you showed, it'll be fine. I find those shots extremely
bright and white dresses look burnt out. Yuck!

Guillaume
http://www.at-sight.com

 

[peteb]

but failing that I think you need to change the safety shift custom fn to whatever it is not. I don't use it myself, M mode does what I need.

rgds
YONG.

as it limits the shutter speed to no lower than 1/60, cutting
almost all ambient light from the image, so you only have the flash
providing the light. That explains the dark background and the
harsh light only on the subject.
Use Av mode, put the compensation under zero, or the picture will
be overexposed because ambient light and flash will add up too
much. So, dial compensation to -1, and shoot the picture. The
ambient light will provide colors for the background, and the
flash, the main light.
If there's enough ambient light, you can also try the contrary: Av
with compensation at zero, and the flash compensation at -1, to
have mainly the ambiant light in the picture, but a little more
emphasis/pop on the subject.
As long as you don't overexpose the flash pictures like on the
gallery you showed, it'll be fine. I find those shots extremely
bright and white dresses look burnt out. Yuck!

Guillaume
http://www.at-sight.com

--
http://public.fotki.com/wibble/public_display/

 

[yongweisheon]

ic,
so normally how you get intouch with M mode , how we going to adjust it ?

rgds
YONG.

rgds
YONG.

as it limits the shutter speed to no lower than 1/60, cutting
almost all ambient light from the image, so you only have the flash
providing the light. That explains the dark background and the
harsh light only on the subject.
Use Av mode, put the compensation under zero, or the picture will
be overexposed because ambient light and flash will add up too
much. So, dial compensation to -1, and shoot the picture. The
ambient light will provide colors for the background, and the
flash, the main light.
If there's enough ambient light, you can also try the contrary: Av
with compensation at zero, and the flash compensation at -1, to
have mainly the ambiant light in the picture, but a little more
emphasis/pop on the subject.
As long as you don't overexpose the flash pictures like on the
gallery you showed, it'll be fine. I find those shots extremely
bright and white dresses look burnt out. Yuck!

Guillaume
http://www.at-sight.com

--
http://public.fotki.com/wibble/public_display/