Hope New DSLR's image will be sharper

[google]

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0406/04060601pentax900dslr.asp

Let's hope the new DSLR's image will be sharper than the very soft *ist D image, and use a Li-ion battery and come with a good, 4x kit D lens.

 

[istD_user]

The istD image isnt soft. If you knew anything about digital camera sharpening youd know that the way the istD handles image sharpness is the best way possible.

 

[mvb123]

and use a Li-ion battery

I hope not! To me it is one of the main selling points of the *istD. Ideal for long trekkings.

The pictures I've seen that are taken with the 16-45 lens look more than sharp enough to me. But indeed a lens with the same quality/compactness and a 18-70+mm range would be more than welcome.

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Menno
http://www.xs4all.nl/~mvanb/albums

 

[google]

about *ist D image softness. Pentax should improve their image process algorithm and in-camera software, not just try to ruin the noise by soften the image -- it is an easy way to eliminate noise but not an advanced way. An old DSLR, Fuji S2 pro can tell how the images are balanced in detail, sharpness, satuation and noise reduction.

 

[Frank from AZ]

You obviously have never used the *ist D or you wouldn't be making ignorant statements. Read Phil's article a little better. And why a Li-Ion battery? Do you think it's better than NiMH rechargeables? I just spent 4500 US dollars on a Canon Mk2 and it comes with NiMh batteries. I think your confused or something.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0406/04060601pentax900dslr.asp
Let's hope the new DSLR's image will be sharper than the very soft
*ist D image, and use a Li-ion battery and come with a good, 4x kit
D lens.

--
Frank from Phoenix
Canon 1D Mk2 and Pentax D*ist DSLR

 

[James O'Neill]

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0406/04060601pentax900dslr.asp
Let's hope the new DSLR's image will be sharper than the very soft
*ist D image, and use a Li-ion battery and come with a good, 4x kit
D lens.

I hope Pentax turn up the default sharpening for so that the obsesive pixel peepers and the plain ignorant will finally shut up.

Anyone who has used a *ist-D comes back and says "What is the softness nonsense.". Canon's rather over-sharpened images have become accepted as the norm.

I think the majority view is that non-proprietry batteries are great.

And it is going to need to come with a cheap lens. What is the point of bringing the body down to that kind of price (and 100,000 yen is well below $900) and then pushing the kit price up with a very expensive lens ?
I'd love to see a 16-60 f/2.8 but I doubt if it will be bundled.

 

[Frank from AZ]

Canon's rather over-sharpened images have
become accepted as the norm.

I just received my Canon MK2, and there are allegations being bandied about in the 1D forum that its images are too soft. I think Canon, on this flagship model, has done what Pentax did visavis in-camera sharpening. I've got my Canon set to sharp+2. Like you said, anyone who claims the st D takes soft pics is simply ignorant. My guess is Google has never picked up an Ist D and has simply regurgitated (vomited in this case) old posts regarding softness.

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Frank from Phoenix
Canon 1D Mk2 and Pentax D*ist DSLR

 

[John Glover]

*ist D image, and use a Li-ion battery and come with a good, 4x kit
D lens.

Who would want a camera with only an expensive, proprietary battery. The one thing I detested about my Fuji 6900 was the lithium ion battery.....expensive, had to be recharged every day. When Fuji switched over to the NiMH cells in the S602 and S7000, it was wonderful. My AA's rechargeables last for me for days or a week in my S7000 as opposed to the hours or sometimes minutes the proprietary batteries lasted. To burden the *ist D with a proprietary battery would be a hug error in my opinion.

The DA 16-45 would make an ideal kit lens to bundle with the Pentax DSLR. No, it is not a 4x zoom range, but who cares? It provided good coverage and has a reputation to be quite sharp and an overall excellent lens. PErsonally, I'd prefer to see something in the DA line on the tele side to complement the 16-45.

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John

Fuji S7000Z, Fuji 2600Z,
Pentax *ist-D, Pentax ZX-M, Oly Stylus
http://www.pbase.com/jglover

 

[win39]

about *ist D image softness. Pentax should improve their image
process algorithm and in-camera software, not just try to ruin the
noise by soften the image -- it is an easy way to eliminate noise
but not an advanced way. An old DSLR, Fuji S2 pro can tell how the
images are balanced in detail, sharpness, satuation and noise
reduction.

It is funny how people divide on the S2 Pro between people who love the images straight out of the camera and people who curse it because no matter how hard they work they can't get a picture with accurate color.

 

[J2D2]

Google?

Now there is an imaginative name. Not.

Strange that this fellow has such a limited imagination, yet writes such drivel.

 

[Zaldidun]

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0406/04060601pentax900dslr.asp
Let's hope the new DSLR's image will be sharper than the very soft
*ist D image, and use a Li-ion battery and come with a good, 4x kit
D lens.

The images from the *istD are the best. If you want in-camera sharpening, buy a point and shoot.

Personally, I wouldn't touch a 4x zoom lens with a ten foot pole. I avoid all zoom lenses anyway because they represent a compromise in quality to achieve flexibility. The greater the zoom range, the bigger the compromise. The best zoom lenses consistently prove to be the ones with a zoom ratio of less than 3x.

 

[Joe Coolpix]

John Glover wrote:

Who would want a camera with only an expensive, proprietary
battery. The one thing I detested about my Fuji 6900 was the
lithium ion battery.....expensive, had to be recharged every day.
When Fuji switched over to the NiMH cells in the S602 and S7000, it
was wonderful. My AA's rechargeables last for me for days or a
week in my S7000 as opposed to the hours or sometimes minutes the
proprietary batteries lasted. To burden the *ist D with a
proprietary battery would be a hug error in my opinion.

I would have to say I like the NiMH cells in cameras that take just 2 AAs, but prefer the proprietary versus 4 AAs. Just too much time spent looking at the + - while reloading and putting in the charger just right. Just my .02.

I am looking with interest at a consumer level Pentax. My first SLR was Pentax ME super and I had many great years with it and especially liked its compact size.

Joe

Canon 10-D, Olympus C-5050

 

[J2D2]

Zaldidun wrote:

The images from the *istD are the best. If you want in-camera sharpening, buy a point and shoot.

Well said!

 

[Parham]

I don't think he (she?) even thought for one second that he (she?)'d get assassinated this quickly before he (she?) posted his (her?) opinion...

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0406/04060601pentax900dslr.asp
Let's hope the new DSLR's image will be sharper than the very soft
*ist D image, and use a Li-ion battery and come with a good, 4x kit
D lens.

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Think.
http://www.pbase.com/parham

 

[SteveO7]

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0406/04060601pentax900dslr.asp
Let's hope the new DSLR's image will be sharper than the very soft
*ist D image, and use a Li-ion battery and come with a good, 4x kit
D lens.

--
Think.
http://www.pbase.com/parham

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Well, I guess I'll add my two cents to this discussion.... The fact that the *istD DOES take the NiMH 'AA's as well as the CR3's is one of its biggest assets. Everything else I have takes AA batteries so I can have a single type of battery for everything. Well, that is beside the $60 propriatary battery my Powershot S50 takes. :-( Who wants to buy different batteries and different chargers everytime he buys a new camera? That's rediculous. As far as "soft" images...? I don't know, I guess it took a while to get used to the images after the S50, but I have my sharpness set to +1 in the camera and I'm a happy camper. They look good to me.
--Steve

 

[Andrew675]

WHY, OH WHY, OH WHY MUST WE CONSTANTLY ENDURE THE NONSENSICAL RAMBLINGS OF RANK AMATURES WHO KNOW NOTHING OF DIGITAL PHOTOGRAPHY!

I'M SO TIRED OF THESE PEOPLE POSTING ABOUT THE SHARPNESS OF THE *istD, ETC., ETC.

GO READ SOME BOOKS OR SOMETHING ON DIGITAL PHOTOGRAPHY AND COME BACK WHEN YOU ARE LEARNED!

Andrew

 

[karen clanin]

http://clanins.com/redflowe.html

here's a pic taken with my new 70-200 f2.8 sigma lens
iso 400, f11 at 350 with the *istD

resized and adjusted resolution in photoshop, no sharpening, no color correction.

seems pretty sharp to me!

karen

 

[deanfu]

I could hardly accept its new DSLR that have to use proprietary Li-ion battery.
And I think the sharpness in *istD is quite good for me.

The only thing Pentax should put is to add the sharpness level for those want having in-camera sharpness.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0406/04060601pentax900dslr.asp
Let's hope the new DSLR's image will be sharper than the very soft
*ist D image, and use a Li-ion battery and come with a good, 4x kit
D lens.

 

[deanfu]

Though I could agree with your opinion to *istD's sharpness, but.................

I could only say that I'm quite happy to deal with *istD's sharpness setting to date.

WHY, OH WHY, OH WHY MUST WE CONSTANTLY ENDURE THE NONSENSICAL
RAMBLINGS OF RANK AMATURES WHO KNOW NOTHING OF DIGITAL PHOTOGRAPHY!

I'M SO TIRED OF THESE PEOPLE POSTING ABOUT THE SHARPNESS OF THE
*istD, ETC., ETC.

GO READ SOME BOOKS OR SOMETHING ON DIGITAL PHOTOGRAPHY AND COME
BACK WHEN YOU ARE LEARNED!

Andrew

 

[Mark Pav]

But I'm glad I have the *ist D; I'm sure it has more "professional" functions. And as for the sharpness, I gave pics of my 2-year old neice that are so sharp they make out details of her face that I couldn't see with my naked eyes if I were nose-to-nose with her.