Am I S.O.L. if I don't own an L-Series Lens?

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I have been shooting with my 10D and my wifes 300D for a few months now. To date, I have the 28-135mm f/3.5 IS USM and the 75-300mm f/4-5.6 III USM and one 550ex.

So far, the pictures that I have taken are lacking that attribute that makes you look twice and say "Wow! That's definitely not from a P&S...". I can't put my finger on exactly what that is, but it seems as though I always find it in photos taken with the L-Series lenses. Is that because:

1. Anyone who owns an L is most likely an accomplished photographer and could most likely take nearly the same photo with a regular Canon lens.

OR

2. Anyone who owns an L is going to be able to take fantastic shots provided they know the difference between the front and back of an SLR.

I hope that it's not #2. Because I just can't see myself spending $2000+ on a single Lens within the next year and I want to be able to take some shots that will let me know where my money went on my 10D right now. Like I said, I have been shooting for two months now and I don't see my pictures improving.

Perhaps if some of you out there could post your best photos taken with non L-series lenses you could show them to me.
 
I have been shooting with my 10D and my wifes 300D for a few months
now. To date, I have the 28-135mm f/3.5 IS USM and the 75-300mm
f/4-5.6 III USM and one 550ex.

So far, the pictures that I have taken are lacking that attribute
that makes you look twice and say "Wow! That's definitely not from
a P&S...". I can't put my finger on exactly what that is, but it
seems as though I always find it in photos taken with the L-Series
lenses. Is that because:

1. Anyone who owns an L is most likely an accomplished
photographer and could most likely take nearly the same photo with
a regular Canon lens.

OR

2. Anyone who owns an L is going to be able to take fantastic
shots provided they know the difference between the front and back
of an SLR.

I hope that it's not #2. Because I just can't see myself spending
$2000+ on a single Lens within the next year and I want to be able
to take some shots that will let me know where my money went on my
10D right now. Like I said, I have been shooting for two months
now and I don't see my pictures improving.

Perhaps if some of you out there could post your best photos taken
with non L-series lenses you could show them to me.
  1. 1 most likely. Keep at it and make an effort to make a picture you think it deserves your " Wow." Proper image processing is essential for a sensor such as 10D/Rebel.
John
 
I hope that it's not #2 too !
I have two L's now and they are better of course, but still not big WOW !
But I'm still working on it :^)

BTW what is S.O.L. ?
 
It means S$!T OUTTA LUCK :)

Which is how I am feeling after reviewing my last grouping of 200+ shots today. It was sunny and my hopes were high - alas I only have three reasonable ones to show for it and they are lacking that infamous WOW.
I hope that it's not #2 too !
I have two L's now and they are better of course, but still not big
WOW !
But I'm still working on it :^)

BTW what is S.O.L. ?
 
I own two "L" lenses (70-200 2.8 and 100-400) and I do think they make a difference, but it's still the scene and the shooter that count the most. I've produced what I would call "wow" shots with my 28-135 and my 50mm 1.8 (which by the way, is as sharp as any L lens out there IMHO and costs only $70), but I keep those L lenses on my D60 as much as possible. Perhaps the best value lens in the Canon lineup is the 70-200 f/4 L. You can pick one up for less than $600 and I hear it's just as sharp (or darn close to it) as it's 2.8 big brother. Also remember that to get the sharpest pics you should be in the lens' "sweet spot," which is at about f/8 for the 28-135 and probably the same for the 75-300. Those lenses probably aren't nearly as sharp wide open, so you won't get that same snap that you get from an L lens. Hope this helps.

John
I have been shooting with my 10D and my wifes 300D for a few months
now. To date, I have the 28-135mm f/3.5 IS USM and the 75-300mm
f/4-5.6 III USM and one 550ex.

So far, the pictures that I have taken are lacking that attribute
that makes you look twice and say "Wow! That's definitely not from
a P&S...". I can't put my finger on exactly what that is, but it
seems as though I always find it in photos taken with the L-Series
lenses. Is that because:

1. Anyone who owns an L is most likely an accomplished
photographer and could most likely take nearly the same photo with
a regular Canon lens.

OR

2. Anyone who owns an L is going to be able to take fantastic
shots provided they know the difference between the front and back
of an SLR.

I hope that it's not #2. Because I just can't see myself spending
$2000+ on a single Lens within the next year and I want to be able
to take some shots that will let me know where my money went on my
10D right now. Like I said, I have been shooting for two months
now and I don't see my pictures improving.

Perhaps if some of you out there could post your best photos taken
with non L-series lenses you could show them to me.
 
I have been shooting with my 10D and my wifes 300D for a few months
now. To date, I have the 28-135mm f/3.5 IS USM and the 75-300mm
f/4-5.6 III USM and one 550ex.

So far, the pictures that I have taken are lacking that attribute
that makes you look twice and say "Wow! That's definitely not from
a P&S...". I can't put my finger on exactly what that is, but it
seems as though I always find it in photos taken with the L-Series
lenses. Is that because:

1. Anyone who owns an L is most likely an accomplished
photographer and could most likely take nearly the same photo with
a regular Canon lens.

OR

2. Anyone who owns an L is going to be able to take fantastic
shots provided they know the difference between the front and back
of an SLR.
Neither. An L-lens does not make you a good photographer, nor does it require any great skills to own or use one.
  1. 1 is closest though, in that the difference is not in the camera but behind it. Great pictures are produced by a combination of:
1. Insight/intuition. Some people are just born with a better photographic instinct than others.

2. Experience. Shoot not dozens, not hundreds but thousands of pictures and, provided that you are motivated, you will see your skills improve. Compare your first pictures with those you took recently, but make sure that there's at least several months between them.

3. Luck. Being in the right place at the right time is mainly a combination of the aforementioned qualities, but luck also come into play. It won't give you consistent results though.

4. Post processing. Although some people don't post process at all, they may just like the "pure look" of an out-of-the-cam image while you attribute the wow-factor to a certain degree of post processing. Learn both your tools and your procedures inside and out. Visit the Retouching forum for tips and pointers.
I hope that it's not #2. Because I just can't see myself spending
$2000+ on a single Lens within the next year and I want to be able
to take some shots that will let me know where my money went on my
10D right now. Like I said, I have been shooting for two months
now and I don't see my pictures improving.
Two months is not a lot of time and some people learn faster than others. Stick with it, don't give up and try to learn from your results. If a picture doesn't turn out the way you envisioned, ask yourself why. Or post it here or on other more critique oriented fora (such as http://www.photosig.com ) and ask for a constructive respons. The learning experience can be as much fun as photography itself.

Bottom line: you certainly don't need a single L-lens to produce fantastic looking results with your 10D or your wife's 300D.

Roy.
 
How is your post-processing technique (in Photoshop Elements, for example). dSLR's don't do as much processing inside the camera (especially the 10D), so you often need to Photoshop things to bring them up to the WOW arena.

L-glass sometimes gives you more possibilities in terms of wider angle, longer telephoto, wider aperture, faster focus, better flare protection. L-zooms generally are sharper than non-L zooms, but your 28-135mm is a pretty capable lens.
 
My post processing is, in all honesty, probably infantile. I know what I like when I see someone elses work, but when it comes to sucking my own images in to PSE and making them "be all they can be", I haven't the first clue as to where to start. How much sharpness do I add? What's the proper way to get correct WB? Should I drop the exposure? Raise it? Or just leave it the hell alone. Are there any hard and fast rules at all for "correctly" processing RAW files?
How is your post-processing technique (in Photoshop Elements, for
example). dSLR's don't do as much processing inside the camera
(especially the 10D), so you often need to Photoshop things to
bring them up to the WOW arena.

L-glass sometimes gives you more possibilities in terms of wider
angle, longer telephoto, wider aperture, faster focus, better flare
protection. L-zooms generally are sharper than non-L zooms, but
your 28-135mm is a pretty capable lens.
 
IMO, the key to the 'wow' shot is......

Controlling the light! -- Once you have a grasp of that, composition, and equipment are just seconds.

No matter how talented you are at composition, and having that great 'shot' in your head.. It is useless w/o knowing how to control the light.

--
-Stan
stanc.net
 
A very heartfelt thanks to all those who took the time to reply, let alone give out all the positive encouragement. I truly appreciate it.

I have spent the past 4 hours reading the responses to my post and others like it. I've learned that good photographers can take good pictures - plain and simple. I have learned that a perfectly sharp photo does not mean a perfect photo. Also, I realize that after only 97 days of moderate shooting with a DSLR, there is no possible way that I am pushing the limits of a 10D and 28-135mm lens to the point where I must spend $x000's on new 'pro glass' - it's downright lafable. What was I thinking??

I think for me, patience above all else will be the key to better shooting.

Thanks again - I already owe so much to the people on this forum.
I have been shooting with my 10D and my wifes 300D for a few months
now. To date, I have the 28-135mm f/3.5 IS USM and the 75-300mm
f/4-5.6 III USM and one 550ex.

So far, the pictures that I have taken are lacking that attribute
that makes you look twice and say "Wow! That's definitely not from
a P&S...". I can't put my finger on exactly what that is, but it
seems as though I always find it in photos taken with the L-Series
lenses. Is that because:

1. Anyone who owns an L is most likely an accomplished
photographer and could most likely take nearly the same photo with
a regular Canon lens.

OR

2. Anyone who owns an L is going to be able to take fantastic
shots provided they know the difference between the front and back
of an SLR.

I hope that it's not #2. Because I just can't see myself spending
$2000+ on a single Lens within the next year and I want to be able
to take some shots that will let me know where my money went on my
10D right now. Like I said, I have been shooting for two months
now and I don't see my pictures improving.

Perhaps if some of you out there could post your best photos taken
with non L-series lenses you could show them to me.
 
I was new to SLR photography a little more than a year ago. Here's what I've learned over the past 15,000 photos...

1. Shoot RAW. I'm able to pull more out of a RAW image I took 9 months ago than I did right after taking the picture.

2. Always expose for highlights. PS CS makes it even easier to add 1 or more stops of dynamic range after the fact.

3. Use the center focusing point. Take several shots of the same scene if possible.

4. Watch your backgrounds, especially with scenic portraits. Too often I load up a picture and notice I have a horizontal object protruding from a head, or a horizon that has similar affects.

5. Take lots and lots of pictures. Keep taking them. Keep learning from them.
I have spent the past 4 hours reading the responses to my post and
others like it. I've learned that good photographers can take good
pictures - plain and simple. I have learned that a perfectly sharp
photo does not mean a perfect photo. Also, I realize that after
only 97 days of moderate shooting with a DSLR, there is no possible
way that I am pushing the limits of a 10D and 28-135mm lens to the
point where I must spend $x000's on new 'pro glass' - it's
downright lafable. What was I thinking??

I think for me, patience above all else will be the key to better
shooting.

Thanks again - I already owe so much to the people on this forum.
I have been shooting with my 10D and my wifes 300D for a few months
now. To date, I have the 28-135mm f/3.5 IS USM and the 75-300mm
f/4-5.6 III USM and one 550ex.

So far, the pictures that I have taken are lacking that attribute
that makes you look twice and say "Wow! That's definitely not from
a P&S...". I can't put my finger on exactly what that is, but it
seems as though I always find it in photos taken with the L-Series
lenses. Is that because:

1. Anyone who owns an L is most likely an accomplished
photographer and could most likely take nearly the same photo with
a regular Canon lens.

OR

2. Anyone who owns an L is going to be able to take fantastic
shots provided they know the difference between the front and back
of an SLR.

I hope that it's not #2. Because I just can't see myself spending
$2000+ on a single Lens within the next year and I want to be able
to take some shots that will let me know where my money went on my
10D right now. Like I said, I have been shooting for two months
now and I don't see my pictures improving.

Perhaps if some of you out there could post your best photos taken
with non L-series lenses you could show them to me.
--
(See profile for equipment I own -- questions welcome.)
 
Of course you dont have to own an L-lens to take good photos. Often it is a good help because it is often faster.

The most important thing is to choose your lenses very carefully (according to what you are shooting). There are a lot of cheap lenses that are great. Both Canon branded but also other brands like Tamron and Sigma.

Anders
I have been shooting with my 10D and my wifes 300D for a few months
now. To date, I have the 28-135mm f/3.5 IS USM and the 75-300mm
f/4-5.6 III USM and one 550ex.

So far, the pictures that I have taken are lacking that attribute
that makes you look twice and say "Wow! That's definitely not from
a P&S...". I can't put my finger on exactly what that is, but it
seems as though I always find it in photos taken with the L-Series
lenses. Is that because:

1. Anyone who owns an L is most likely an accomplished
photographer and could most likely take nearly the same photo with
a regular Canon lens.

OR

2. Anyone who owns an L is going to be able to take fantastic
shots provided they know the difference between the front and back
of an SLR.

I hope that it's not #2. Because I just can't see myself spending
$2000+ on a single Lens within the next year and I want to be able
to take some shots that will let me know where my money went on my
10D right now. Like I said, I have been shooting for two months
now and I don't see my pictures improving.

Perhaps if some of you out there could post your best photos taken
with non L-series lenses you could show them to me.
--
Equipment:
1 camera
Some lenses
2 eyes

http://www.area21.dk
 
This is a link to my portfolio on photosig - not an L lens in sight, in fact alot of the images were taken with Sigma Glass

http://www.photosig.com/go/users/userphotos?id=137085

Dont forget to critque them while you are there!
10D right now. Like I said, I have been shooting for two months
now and I don't see my pictures improving.

Perhaps if some of you out there could post your best photos taken
with non L-series lenses you could show them to me.
 
L lenses are nice , but they are not desireable just for optical quality , as other "lesser" lenses come close. Generally the 1st requirement for a photo is to be in focus , and in focus is a "loose" term , as if you do a 100% crop on a 21" monitor the pic might not be razor sharp , yet this might not be critical for normal viewing etc, You normally find L lenses are a little sharper than others , especially wide open. They also have other atributes like being a little more ergonomical , less color casts , weatherproofing , build quality , smoothness of controls , faster AF etc. You pay a lot for this too. So essentailly , the price of a L lens is not directly related to optical quality. They do have a special quality but nothing that will transform a pic from a lesser lens , all things being equal , into a dramatic "WOW" pic. So don't worry too much about them , they are often indulgences anyway. I own a few L lenses and plenty NON L ones and dont feel my non L lenses are a limiting factor.

The main thing about photography is visualization , you need to know how your camera and lens will represent a certain lighting situation and scene , your eye does not see what the camera sees , once you know this it's easy to visualize an outcome and you can use the camera and lens as a creative tool to manipulate this to achieve the desred effect.

There are various "rules" for composition and exposure and it helps to have a "cheat" list when taking a photo and practice following these rules till they become second nature , then go break them:)

Photography can be a "capture the moment" thing , but often the "sponteneity" is the result of a lot of thinking and pre preperation. Going out and snapping away a million shots cos digital film is cheap is actualy a little self defeating cos if you KNEW a shot was gonna cost you , you might plan it better. You might be lucky and get 10 keepers out of a 100 and one WOW shot , but if your shots are planned you will get a higher ratio. Having said that , the best way to learn about the camera and the "rules" is to go out and shoot a zillion shots.

Take the time to check things like the correct ISO , WB , camera settings etc so that they are appropriate to shooting conditions , find alternate angles , check foregrounds and backgrounds for distracting elements , get up close , use a monopod/tripod, shoot when the light is good , bracket your shots and so forth. there are a million internet resources as to photographic technique , read up and set a target of perfecting em one by one.

When you dont have your camera with you train your eye to "frame" shots , Ie when driving along look at the details around you and view them as "wow" pics , think how you would frame them , settings , lens etc.

Plan a day out to a venue , dont take the whole kit with , just enough and use what you got , like go to the firestation one morning and learn how shiny reflective stuff acts , how to do fill in flash portraiture of the firemen in training , how to use close up abstract detail on the machines etc etc.

Set yourself a realistic target when going shooting , 5 keepers and one stunner perhaps?

In terms of processing As a start try a little more shaprening etc in your camera , the 10D is conservative , set your parameters on the high side and see if you like what you get out of the camera , try 1/3 to 1/2 a stop + exposure compensation , exposing for the highlights is technically correct , but doesnt produce pretty pics and a very mildly blown highlight with well lit midtones most folk can live with. Do a manual WB for different lighting conditions , even outside. shooting RAW is the answer , but it does require more post processing and doesn't let you learn that much about what your camera is doing with its own algorithms. IMHO the worst thing one can do is oversharpen in the digital darkroom using poor sharpening strategies, so be conservative on that side.

Cull you shots ruthlessly , dump OOf ones , dont try make a silk purse out of a sows ear , if it doesnt look good on previewing it or out th camera, it's most likely not going to get a ton better after post processing - at least not aesthetics wise. the less postprocessing one has to do to get final output , the better - generally , it's a real schlep having to dredge thru 150 pics and having to process each one as to WB etc etc , get boring , takes a ton of shooting time and so forth.

Iv'e been in photograpy for 28 years on and off , and I still class myself as a newbie and am still learning. It's a wonderful world , combining the creative with the technological.

Rodney Gold

The nicest thing about smacking your head against the the wall is.......The feeling you get when you stop
 
So far, the pictures that I have taken are lacking that attribute
that makes you look twice and say "Wow! That's definitely not from
a P&S...". I can't put my finger on exactly what that is, but it
seems as though I always find it in photos taken with the L-Series
lenses.
I don't own an L-Series lens, although I have tried shooting with some on my cameras (rented, and on mini-trips with friends who had them). But let's start to address your question from the P&S angle first. Some of my first pictures from 2000 when I bought my first camera, the PowerShot S20 (my first camera was a 3.3MP digital P&S) still remind me of how little I knew about photography techniques, and how little it mattered. After 6000 pictures with that camera where the aperture and shutter speed were not adjustable by the user, I felt like I had learned enough about exposure and composition to try a camera with interchangeable lenses.

Here is a little gallery I made at the time:
http://www.techhouse.org/~mbf/images

Notice that with the processing done in and out of camera, that these shots are generally bright and colorful. They were from my first few months as a photographer, and I am still quite happy with them about 4 years later.
Perhaps if some of you out there could post your best photos taken
with non L-series lenses you could show them to me.
I have several galleries of photos that I have taken with my 10D on trips in 2003 (family events, hence the site concept). They are located here:
http://frieds.techhouse.org/

I write this not as an example of "great" photographs or "my best work", but simply a smattering of photographs that I pared down from a larger base. For every photograph in these galleries, I deleted many in camera, sorted the rest, and did some amount of work in post processing using the Canon RAW File Viewer utility. I will make the claim that an L lens would not have changed the images that I took, unless it enabled me to make different choices. The color choices I made intentionally using software, but they might not be the same choices that you would choose. Sometimes I feel like I should take the originals back into the CRFVU and re-process them through photoshop, removing the traces of sensor dust and punching up some of the images. Most of my adjustments were the digital exposure adjustments, when some images really needed additional levels/curves and saturation/contrast work.

When I went to Scandinavia, the shooting choices I made on the spot tended to be to underexpose to get the shutter speed I wanted instead of increasing the ISO. I discovered that in most cases, when I processed the files, that I ended up pushing the files with digital exposure compensation at least as much as I had underexposed, and in many cases I pushed it even more. I now know that I would have had better results with the correct ISO speed for the situation.

There are many techniques which I have experimented with at different times, and I have purchased different kinds of equipment to try out different kinds of photography.

Adrian Joseph Roy wrote (in a different post):
I have spent the past 4 hours reading the responses to my post and
others like it. I've learned that good photographers can take good
pictures - plain and simple. I have learned that a perfectly sharp
photo does not mean a perfect photo. Also, I realize that after
only 97 days of moderate shooting with a DSLR, there is no possible
way that I am pushing the limits of a 10D and 28-135mm lens to the
point where I must spend $x000's on new 'pro glass' - it's
downright lafable. What was I thinking??
You were thinking that better equipment make better photographers. While poor equipment may limit your photography, excellent equipment won't make a photograph any better. A steinway grand piano can't help you play if you don't know how, but it can impede your playing if it isn't in tune. Your camera can get similarly out of tune. I've had dust on my sensor (you can tell in some of the images from my Norway trip in the galleris on my family site). I've cleaned the sensor.
I was new to SLR photography a little more than a year ago.
Here's what I've learned over the past 15,000 photos...
RobE has some good advice for a more experienced photographer. Based on what you asked, and the way you put it, I have the feeling that even after 97 days of shooting with your camera, you are not yet at the level where RobE's advice will change your work. Except for this last item:
5. Take lots and lots of pictures. Keep taking them. Keep
learning from them.
This is the best advice anyone can give, but more so than that, PRINT those pictures. ENHANCE those pictures using the Photoshop that came with your camera. POST your photos for other people to see and critique. EXPERIMENT with what you do. Not all of photography is learned behind the camera body, and not all of it is intentional. The post-processing gives you many additional insights into how to take better pictures. Also, mimick other people. If you see one of those "Wow! That's amazing!" shots from someone else, try and figure out how to make it with your equipment. Do really saturated and sharp pictures make you go wow, or is it a really sharp, but well defined subject in bright contrasted against a differently colored, out of focus background? Have you tried filling in with your flash with a colored gel filter? What about shooting portraits with your widest angle? I often shoot portraits with the 15-30mm lens indoors, bouncing my 550EX off the ceiling. My wife looks 5" taller at the 15mm end.
-Mike
 
L lenses are nice , but they are not desireable just for optical
quality , as other "lesser" lenses come close. Generally the 1st
requirement for a photo is to be in focus , and in focus is a
"loose" term , as if you do a 100% crop on a 21" monitor the pic
might not be razor sharp , yet this might not be critical for
normal viewing etc, You normally find L lenses are a little sharper
than others , especially wide open. They also have other atributes
like being a little more ergonomical , less color casts ,
weatherproofing , build quality , smoothness of controls , faster
AF etc. You pay a lot for this too. So essentailly , the price of a
L lens is not directly related to optical quality. They do have a
special quality but nothing that will transform a pic from a lesser
lens , all things being equal , into a dramatic "WOW" pic. So don't
worry too much about them , they are often indulgences anyway. I
own a few L lenses and plenty NON L ones and dont feel my non L
lenses are a limiting factor.

The main thing about photography is visualization , you need to
know how your camera and lens will represent a certain lighting
situation and scene , your eye does not see what the camera sees ,
once you know this it's easy to visualize an outcome and you can
use the camera and lens as a creative tool to manipulate this to
achieve the desred effect.
There are various "rules" for composition and exposure and it
helps to have a "cheat" list when taking a photo and practice
following these rules till they become second nature , then go
break them:)
Photography can be a "capture the moment" thing , but often the
"sponteneity" is the result of a lot of thinking and pre
preperation. Going out and snapping away a million shots cos
digital film is cheap is actualy a little self defeating cos if you
KNEW a shot was gonna cost you , you might plan it better. You
might be lucky and get 10 keepers out of a 100 and one WOW shot ,
but if your shots are planned you will get a higher ratio. Having
said that , the best way to learn about the camera and the "rules"
is to go out and shoot a zillion shots.

Take the time to check things like the correct ISO , WB , camera
settings etc so that they are appropriate to shooting conditions ,
find alternate angles , check foregrounds and backgrounds for
distracting elements , get up close , use a monopod/tripod, shoot
when the light is good , bracket your shots and so forth. there are
a million internet resources as to photographic technique , read up
and set a target of perfecting em one by one.
When you dont have your camera with you train your eye to "frame"
shots , Ie when driving along look at the details around you and
view them as "wow" pics , think how you would frame them , settings
, lens etc.
Plan a day out to a venue , dont take the whole kit with , just
enough and use what you got , like go to the firestation one
morning and learn how shiny reflective stuff acts , how to do fill
in flash portraiture of the firemen in training , how to use close
up abstract detail on the machines etc etc.
Set yourself a realistic target when going shooting , 5 keepers and
one stunner perhaps?
In terms of processing As a start try a little more shaprening etc
in your camera , the 10D is conservative , set your parameters on
the high side and see if you like what you get out of the camera ,
try 1/3 to 1/2 a stop + exposure compensation , exposing for the
highlights is technically correct , but doesnt produce pretty pics
and a very mildly blown highlight with well lit midtones most folk
can live with. Do a manual WB for different lighting conditions ,
even outside. shooting RAW is the answer , but it does require more
post processing and doesn't let you learn that much about what your
camera is doing with its own algorithms. IMHO the worst thing one
can do is oversharpen in the digital darkroom using poor sharpening
strategies, so be conservative on that side.

Cull you shots ruthlessly , dump OOf ones , dont try make a silk
purse out of a sows ear , if it doesnt look good on previewing it
or out th camera, it's most likely not going to get a ton better
after post processing - at least not aesthetics wise. the less
postprocessing one has to do to get final output , the better -
generally , it's a real schlep having to dredge thru 150 pics and
having to process each one as to WB etc etc , get boring , takes a
ton of shooting time and so forth.

Iv'e been in photograpy for 28 years on and off , and I still class
myself as a newbie and am still learning. It's a wonderful world ,
combining the creative with the technological.

Rodney Gold
The nicest thing about smacking your head against the the wall
is.......The feeling you get when you stop
 
Actually, I own four L lenses but I use the 28-135IS lens a lot for its convenience and smaller size.
 
Be sure to set the review to show the histogram. It will tell you more about the exposure than the review photo.
 
Good advice. However, you need a longer focal length lens for great portraits. You get a lot of distortion with a WA lens.
 

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