Nikon Z8 slow to wake up from sleep? Is this normal? Or did I mess up some setting?

[Ozzie SD]

So I recently upgraded from Z7 II to Z8 and am mostly just blown away at how big of an upgrade it is. I am super happy with the camera and overall am just tickled pink by it.
That said, one thing is driving me insane. I notice that the Z8 is much slower than my Z7 II was when wakin up from a sleep state (or powering on), which seems weird to me as the Z8 has a much more powerful processor.
For example, when I am out birding, with the Z7 II if I see a bird as I raise the camera to my eye, I tap the shutter button and by the time the camera is to my eye, it is awake and the EVF is on.
In comparison, with the Z8, I am typically raising a black EVF to my eye and waiting 0.5-1s before it lights up I can start shooting.
Its not crazy long, but I've missed shots because of it. I'd estimate the wakeup time on the Z8 is double that of my Z7ii. Its at a point where I have resorted to reducing the sleep timer by a ton and just walking around with the camera awake. I go through batteries faster but at least I can trust that my camera will be awake when I go to take the shot.
I am wondering, could this be a setting I've messed up? Like some feature I've turned on that makes the camera slow to wake up? I've tried googling around and haven't found anything.

thanks so much for any help!

Unfortunately I don't have a Nikon camera, but I was just reading along.

No one mentioned a battery issue. Perhaps you could try and swap batteries?

 

[Pierre Lagarde]

So I recently upgraded from Z7 II to Z8 and am mostly just blown away at how big of an upgrade it is. I am super happy with the camera and overall am just tickled pink by it.
That said, one thing is driving me insane. I notice that the Z8 is much slower than my Z7 II was when wakin up from a sleep state (or powering on), which seems weird to me as the Z8 has a much more powerful processor.
For example, when I am out birding, with the Z7 II if I see a bird as I raise the camera to my eye, I tap the shutter button and by the time the camera is to my eye, it is awake and the EVF is on.
In comparison, with the Z8, I am typically raising a black EVF to my eye and waiting 0.5-1s before it lights up I can start shooting.
Its not crazy long, but I've missed shots because of it. I'd estimate the wakeup time on the Z8 is double that of my Z7ii. Its at a point where I have resorted to reducing the sleep timer by a ton and just walking around with the camera awake. I go through batteries faster but at least I can trust that my camera will be awake when I go to take the shot.
I am wondering, could this be a setting I've messed up? Like some feature I've turned on that makes the camera slow to wake up? I've tried googling around and haven't found anything.

thanks so much for any help!

Just tried with mine and Z8 (firmware 2.10) is nearly twice faster than Z7II (firmware version 1.62) ... so it's seems to be the other way around for me.

You may check for differences of configuration between both cameras. Maybe it's FTZ + PF lenses with stab, or maybe the card, or maybe some settings such as network, plane mode,... don't know.

Have you tried reverting all cards and lenses between cameras ? BTW I've tried reverting cards and got nearly same results (i.e. Z8 faster anyway)

 

[PLShutterbug]

I certainly hope that the difference in wake up time is not because I have out of date firmware.

No. I have the latest firmware and mine wakes up in under a second.

 

[Joacim Schwartz]

I just checked with my Z8 and OG Z6 without a lens on either. The Z8 is significantly faster on startup.

 

[Leonard Shepherd]

Just checked my Z8. I think its waking up from sleep mode is much faster than 1 second.

Mine takes around a quarter of a second with the shutter blind closed on switch off, and a little faster with the shutter blind remaining open.

 

[PLShutterbug]

That said, one thing is driving me insane. I notice that the Z8 is much slower than my Z7 II was when wakin up from a sleep state (or powering on), which seems weird to me as the Z8 has a much more powerful processor.

Unfortunately I don't have a Nikon camera, but I was just reading along.

No one mentioned a battery issue. Perhaps you could try and swap batteries?

It's not battery power. The camera starts up just as fast with a full or almost-exhausted battery.

I and others noticed at least two difference between the two cameras in the video the OP posted: his Z8 was in video mode but his Z7ii was in stills mode, and that his Z7ii doesn't have a card in it.

The overwhelmingly common response is that each responder's Z8 starts up either as fast as or faster than their older cameras.

 

[SilverEagle1962]

I called Nikon I was told it should be faster than nikon z7ii as far as wake up from sleep mode , they suggested looking in power setting and see if something was changed….sorry I wish I can help more.

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[allanimal]

How is your monitor mode set?

Perhaps using prioritize viewfinder 2 or viewfinder only will make it faster

 

[sirhawkeye64]

I certainly hope that the difference in wake up time is not because I have out of date firmware.

No. I have the latest firmware and mine wakes up in under a second.

I think there was some improvements in terms of wake-up and response time in one of the updates....

If the wake-up time bothers people, the only real workaround is to increase the sleep timer from it's default to something like 5 or 10 minutes.

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[BasilG]

Interesting, I wonder why. The Z8's processor is a LOT faster. Its sensor readout speed is a LOT faster. Makes me really wonder why it would wake up so much slower.

You trust an AI summary that is more likely than not just gibberish?

 

[daveomd]

Is your sensor shutter active to protect and clean the sensor? This may cause the minor delays.

 

[rcooper102]

It def is slower, I just recorded a quick video of them side by side. This is with the shutter curtain off on the Z8:
Its not a lot slower, but its a solid half second. Its enough that "I notice" it in the field.
In most use cases its irrelevant, but when a small songbird lands near you and only stays on the branch for a few seconds, that difference can make or break the shot.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ws7dGDk7O3GaBubWgo0nyALYKuZM-AtO/view?usp=sharing

May not make a difference but in your video the Z8 is set to Movie mode and the Z7 II set to stills. Also, the Z7 II doesn't have a media card installed.

Neither have any impact.

 

[rcooper102]

Interesting, I wonder why. The Z8's processor is a LOT faster. Its sensor readout speed is a LOT faster. Makes me really wonder why it would wake up so much slower.

You trust an AI summary that is more likely than not just gibberish?

No particularily, but it does align with my real life experience.

 

[rcooper102]

It's not exactly like yours, but I have the original Z7 and the Z8. I just set both so they go to sleep after ten seconds, then:

1. Wait for each camera to go to sleep.
2. Count to 5.
3. Press both shutter buttons halfway at the same time.
4. Eyeball which shows the rear LCD faster.

After about ten repetitions I see that they both come back on at exactly the same instant, and it takes about one second.

If your "ii" is faster than that then I dunno. If your Z8 is slower than that, let's compare settings.

• No lens on either camera
• Aperture priority auto-exposure mode
• Auto-ISO
• MF autofocus mode, because there is no lens mounted
• Bluetooth is on
• Single-frame exposure mode

I just mounted my Z 100-400mm S on the Z8 and did some informal tests, then did the same thing with the Z7. For each camera:

1. Settings as above.
2. Set camera to auto-switch between EVF and monitor.
3. Wait for camera to go to sleep.
4. Raise camera to eye.
5. Half-press the shutter button.

It takes at most a second for the Z8 to be ready to shoot.

It takes maybe 25% longer than that for the Z7, but maybe that's just my hope that my spending all that money on the Z8 makes it faster than my six-year-old Z7.

Really, they're very close but the Z8 is faster to wake up.

Frankly, I don't know what else might affect wake-from-sleep timing.

How about you?

Here are mine side by side,, I repeated this at least 10 times and it was exactly the same each time:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ws7dGDk7O3GaBubWgo0nyALYKuZM-AtO/view?usp=drive_link

I tried with lens, and without. None of the above settings seems to make any difference in my testing. I also don't know what might impact wake timing. Based on other responses to this thread, it sounds like the Z8 is just slower, I'm not sure why, though. The Z8 has a much faster processor and a sensor with a much fast read time so there isn't any obvious logical reason as to why it would be slower. But it is.

One thing I see is that the Z8 is in video mode and the Z7ii is in stills mode - at least if the stills/vide mode switch on the “ii” has stills at the top like I do on my “i”. Look at the arrows in my screen grab below. You can see the Z8 switch setting at video; the bit of white on the Z7ii is clearly above the “disp” indicator, which on my camera means it is set to stills mode.



I cannot tell if there is any other difference between the two camera setups.

I suggest making sure the two cameras are set up as close to identically as you can, and then run the test again.

Video mode appears to have no impact at all.

 

[rcooper102]

Some lenses will slow down the power-on.

power on speeds, Z6 vs Z6 iii.

My old Z6 when new was obviously slow, maybe 1.5 seconds at power on. But at some point, one of the firmware updates seems to have improved this. It's now fairly similar to my Z6 iii start up speed, of a little less than 1 second.

Just now, trying to flip both switches simultaneously -- that's not easy!

The Z6 with 24-70 f/4 was typically quicker, but sometimes lagged a bit longer on startup. The Z6 iii had the 24-120 on it.

So I swapped lenses.

Now the Z6 iii with the 24-70 is obviously faster than the Z6 with the 24-120. The 24-120 lens just takes longer to initialize than the simpler 24-70, I guess.

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Z6 vs Z6 iii, body only no lenses:

The Z6 iii is very fast, I'm guessing 1/2 second approx.

The Z6 seems to be almost 2 seconds. That's noticeably slower with no lens than with a lens! That's interesting.

I've found it pretty consistent on any lenses I own, I even tried with no lens on either camera and the times were about the same.

 

[rcooper102]

Had the same issue with my Z7 II when I first got it. Spotted a large formation of Geese coming in for a landing to a large Pond/tiny Lake I was on a crossing bridge over. Missed the landing completely because it took so damned long for the camera to wake up. That had to be at least 20 to 30 seconds where I watched a shot of a lifetime vanish while waiting for the camera to wake up.

Learned my lesson quite well and won't ever use that mode again. Note while I was using it I didn't notice any change in the rate at witch the battery was depleted. I will also note that you will find this Fools Mode in the SETUP menu.

Yeah, I already had it off for me, it drove me insane when it was turned on.

 

[rcooper102]

That said, one thing is driving me insane. I notice that the Z8 is much slower than my Z7 II was when wakin up from a sleep state (or powering on), which seems weird to me as the Z8 has a much more powerful processor.

Unfortunately I don't have a Nikon camera, but I was just reading along.

No one mentioned a battery issue. Perhaps you could try and swap batteries?

It's not battery power. The camera starts up just as fast with a full or almost-exhausted battery.

I and others noticed at least two difference between the two cameras in the video the OP posted: his Z8 was in video mode but his Z7ii was in stills mode, and that his Z7ii doesn't have a card in it.

The overwhelmingly common response is that each responder's Z8 starts up either as fast as or faster than their older cameras.

Neither of those are factors, my bad in the example video I posted, but the whole reason I noticed the issue is because the Z8 is slower in real world conditions with compatible settings and the same card.

 

[rcooper102]

So I recently upgraded from Z7 II to Z8 and am mostly just blown away at how big of an upgrade it is. I am super happy with the camera and overall am just tickled pink by it.
That said, one thing is driving me insane. I notice that the Z8 is much slower than my Z7 II was when wakin up from a sleep state (or powering on), which seems weird to me as the Z8 has a much more powerful processor.
For example, when I am out birding, with the Z7 II if I see a bird as I raise the camera to my eye, I tap the shutter button and by the time the camera is to my eye, it is awake and the EVF is on.
In comparison, with the Z8, I am typically raising a black EVF to my eye and waiting 0.5-1s before it lights up I can start shooting.
Its not crazy long, but I've missed shots because of it. I'd estimate the wakeup time on the Z8 is double that of my Z7ii. Its at a point where I have resorted to reducing the sleep timer by a ton and just walking around with the camera awake. I go through batteries faster but at least I can trust that my camera will be awake when I go to take the shot.
I am wondering, could this be a setting I've messed up? Like some feature I've turned on that makes the camera slow to wake up? I've tried googling around and haven't found anything.

thanks so much for any help!

Just tried with mine and Z8 (firmware 2.10) is nearly twice faster than Z7II (firmware version 1.62) ... so it's seems to be the other way around for me.

You may check for differences of configuration between both cameras. Maybe it's FTZ + PF lenses with stab, or maybe the card, or maybe some settings such as network, plane mode,... don't know.

Have you tried reverting all cards and lenses between cameras ? BTW I've tried reverting cards and got nearly same results (i.e. Z8 faster anyway)

I've tried with every lens I own as well as with no lens at all and it is consistent for me. It must be some setting you have turned off?

 

[Horshack]

It def is slower, I just recorded a quick video of them side by side. This is with the shutter curtain off on the Z8:
Its not a lot slower, but its a solid half second. Its enough that "I notice" it in the field.
In most use cases its irrelevant, but when a small songbird lands near you and only stays on the branch for a few seconds, that difference can make or break the shot.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ws7dGDk7O3GaBubWgo0nyALYKuZM-AtO/view?usp=sharing

May not make a difference but in your video the Z8 is set to Movie mode and the Z7 II set to stills. Also, the Z7 II doesn't have a media card installed.

Neither have any impact.

Thanks. I would try a full camera reset and see if that changes the startup lag you're seeing. You can save/restore the settings before and after so that you wont lose time setting the camera back up after the experiment.

 

[rcooper102]

Is your sensor shutter active to protect and clean the sensor? This may cause the minor delays.

It is but I tried testing with it off and didn't see any change.