Why some camera manufacturers still haven't implement HEIF image

[GutiWong]

HEIF image is excellent in image quality (4:4:2 10 bit) and compact file size. Nowadays, most of the smartphone and Mac does support it. More TV, computer monitor do support 10bit HDR.

Why some camera manufacturers still haven't implement it?

 

[John Crowe]

It's a horrible format, so let's hope not.

In one of my many silly Samsung upgrades it reset my default from jpeg to heif. It was awful and it took me quite awhile to find the problem and reset it.

 

[wilberforce_1]

I think it good that Apple is forcing acceptance of HEIF/HEIC, at least as an option. No-one else could do so. (e.g., the failure of JPEG 2000).

Of course, those that don't like HEIF don't want to allow others to have it as an option.

 

[Victor Engel]

It's a horrible format, so let's hope not.

In one of my many silly Samsung upgrades it reset my default from jpeg to heif. It was awful and it took me quite awhile to find the problem and reset it.

What was awful about it?

 

[AndroC]

Because it is principally an Apple format and not all manufacturers follow Apple standards.

 

[John Crowe]

It seems to me I could only see it on my camera. I still use PS CS6. I couldn't view it on my PC and I couldn't view it in Bridge. I doubt I could install the files required to use it, and why bother when jpeg is seamless. I can send a jpeg to anyone and they can view it.

I couldn't get rid of it fast enough.

 

[Hans Z]

After doing my own analysis & research I decided to use the HEIF format as my long term image storage format. The reason is it offers good compression, is an official standard and I feel confident that with all the billions of images already in this format there will always be a program that can open this format in the future.

 

[teejaywhy]

My phone (Android) decided to switch itself to HEIF format, unknown to me until I imported into Lightroom and discovered the photos SUCKED.

 

[tbcass]

HEIF image is excellent in image quality (4:4:2 10 bit) and compact file size. Nowadays, most of the smartphone and Mac does support it. More TV, computer monitor do support 10bit HDR.

Why some camera manufacturers still haven't implement it?

I suspect it's because a lot of software is incompatible with the format while JPEG is compatible with everything.

 

[tbcass]

Of course, those that don't like HEIF don't want to allow others to have it as an option.

Really?

 

[Victor Engel]

It seems to me I could only see it on my camera. I still use PS CS6. I couldn't view it on my PC and I couldn't view it in Bridge. I doubt I could install the files required to use it, and why bother when jpeg is seamless. I can send a jpeg to anyone and they can view it.

I couldn't get rid of it fast enough.

OK. So it's not the format that's horrible. It's the lack of support.

 

[John Crowe]

That is not a trivial problem.

 

[Victor Engel]

HEIF image is excellent in image quality (4:4:2 10 bit) and compact file size. Nowadays, most of the smartphone and Mac does support it. More TV, computer monitor do support 10bit HDR.

Why some camera manufacturers still haven't implement it?

I suspect it's because a lot of software is incompatible with the format while JPEG is compatible with everything.

Remeber when there was GIF but not JPEG?

 

[Victor Engel]

That is not a trivial problem.

Sure, but you made it sound like there was some problem with the format itself. I was curious what that might be. HEIF can produce higher quality images in the same amount of space because of its superior format.

 

[Hans Z]

HEIF image is excellent in image quality (4:4:2 10 bit) and compact file size. Nowadays, most of the smartphone and Mac does support it. More TV, computer monitor do support 10bit HDR.

Why some camera manufacturers still haven't implement it?

I suspect it's because a lot of software is incompatible with the format while JPEG is compatible with everything.

Remeber when there was GIF but not JPEG?

That was a while ago, in 1994 Netscape started supporting JPEG. Not sure if the first versions of Photoshop supported JPEG.

 

[JasonTheBirder]

HEIF image is excellent in image quality (4:4:2 10 bit) and compact file size. Nowadays, most of the smartphone and Mac does support it. More TV, computer monitor do support 10bit HDR.

Why some camera manufacturers still haven't implement it?

Raw is superior. And I think most dedicated camera users who actually go through the trouble of even buying a camera don't want an inferior format to Raw. I'd never shoot in HEIF. That doesn't mean I wouldn't export in it, but there's no point in cameras supporting it.

 

[ishwanu]

The basic reason is cost.

There are licensing fees involved. The required changes to code and menus and quality control add more costs.

Camera manufacturers know that the only users who directly benefit from HEIC/HEIF native output are those who use files coming straight out of the camera, so they have to decide if there are enough of them to matter.

Manufacturers are probably weighing these factors and watching for interest in the new format to reach a point where adding it is worth the cost and effort. Not many have decided that it is.

 

[Sittatunga]

HEIF image is excellent in image quality (4:4:2 10 bit) and compact file size. Nowadays, most of the smartphone and Mac does support it. More TV, computer monitor do support 10bit HDR.

Why some camera manufacturers still haven't implement it?

I suspect it's because a lot of software is incompatible with the format while JPEG is compatible with everything.

Remeber when there was GIF but not JPEG?

 

[Doug J]

Because it is principally an Apple format and not all manufacturers follow Apple standards.

The format was developed by the Moving Picture Experts Group (MPEG) and is part of an ISO standard. Apple adopted the format, as have many other companies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Efficiency_Image_File_Format

Cheers,
Doug

 

[GutiWong]

I think it good that Apple is forcing acceptance of HEIF/HEIC, at least as an option. No-one else could do so. (e.g., the failure of JPEG 2000).

Of course, those that don't like HEIF don't want to allow others to have it as an option.

I agree at least give us a option. Just like Sony camera, it allows me to choose jpg or HEIF. Why other camera manufacturers (Panasonic, OM System etc) don't support HEIF output?

Is it because it needs to buy license from someone?