Does anybody else find cheap cameras more fun ?

[chrishurley]

there might be a 100 dollar M43 camera that can do what my Canon T3i is supposed to do? currently just sniffing around, answers to these questions seem beyond my reach but i keep trying.

For me personally, I want a viewfinder. That limits the m43 selections a little bit. I'm not sure if $100 will get there.

E-M1 Mark 1

E-M10 Mark 2

E-M5

Panasonic G1 and others

You might be able to get close to $100 ish budget

 

[chrishurley]

Looks like a great ride and some nice shots

 

[bridge77]

there might be a 100 dollar M43 camera that can do what my Canon T3i is supposed to do? currently just sniffing around, answers to these questions seem beyond my reach but i keep trying.

For me personally, I want a viewfinder. That limits the m43 selections a little bit. I'm not sure if $100 will get there.

thanks.

no viewfinder is a deal breaker, might as well have a cell phone.

E-M1 Mark 1

E-M10 Mark 2

E-M5

Panasonic G1 and others
You might be able to get close to $100 ish budget

 

[bridge77]

there might be a 100 dollar M43 camera that can do what my Canon T3i is supposed to do? currently just sniffing around, answers to these questions seem beyond my reach but i keep trying.

For me personally, I want a viewfinder. That limits the m43 selections a little bit. I'm not sure if $100 will get there.

thanks.

no viewfinder is a deal breaker, might as well have a cell phone.

E-M1 Mark 1

E-M10 Mark 2

E-M5

Panasonic G1 and others
You might be able to get close to $100 ish budget

thanks. i am look at close to 200 for the camera with my trade in. image stabilization and auto focus is mandatory.

is this realistic? auto focus can be in the lens like my Canon T3i

 

[Night Pixel]

Took the D200 with 60mm Nikkor Micro out for a walk. Something about those CCD sensors is really nice even though there are many videos out there showing no difference between CCD and CMOS.







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[chrishurley]

My Kodak P880 came in yesterday. The on/off switch seems a little finicky but the camera seems to work. I forgot to check to see if it had any stabilization before I ordered it and of course it doesn't. These kinds of cameras are really best out in the sun and with no stabilization I guess the lack of stabilization really pushes that point home.

If I can get some sunshine, I look forward to shooting it.

 

[tbcass]

My Kodak P880 came in yesterday. The on/off switch seems a little finicky but the camera seems to work. I forgot to check to see if it had any stabilization before I ordered it and of course it doesn't. These kinds of cameras are really best out in the sun and with no stabilization I guess the lack of stabilization really pushes that point home.

If I can get some sunshine, I look forward to shooting it.

People are spoiled by IS. If you use proper technique slow handheld shots are possible without Image Stabilization. The following was shot at 0.14 sec with a Fuji S9000 without IS. In my opinion IS has made people a bit careless in their hand holding technique.





This one at 0.31 (1/3) sec.







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Tom

 

[Mako2011]

People are spoiled by IS. If you use proper technique slow handheld shots are possible without Image Stabilization. The following was shot at 0.14 sec with a Fuji S9000 without IS.

And with IS...you could have pushed the envelop even more. For those with less hand holding skill...IS can be a real game changer...especially when we get really old and our abilities start to age a bit

For those with the skill...it lets us push our skill well beyond what is normally possible without IS.

 

[Kodakrevisited]

My Kodak P880 came in yesterday. The on/off switch seems a little finicky

Thats a shame, the on/off switch was its weakness and hard to rectify, the seller should have told you, they must have known, hopefully willstay useable for a long while yet

 

[tbcass]

People are spoiled by IS. If you use proper technique slow handheld shots are possible without Image Stabilization. The following was shot at 0.14 sec with a Fuji S9000 without IS.

And with IS...you could have pushed the envelop even more. For those with less hand holding skill...IS can be a real game changer...especially when we get really old and our abilities start to age a bit

For those with the skill...it lets us push our skill well beyond what is normally possible without IS.

I'm 78 and can hold a camera just as steady as when I was 18. Maybe slower because when I was young, I tended to be very hyper. That said IS is very useful, but my purpose was to show that a camera without IS can be handheld successfully at slow shutter speeds. The OP thought the camera would have to be used in daylight.

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Tom

 

[Dareshooter]

People are spoiled by IS. If you use proper technique slow handheld shots are possible without Image Stabilization. The following was shot at 0.14 sec with a Fuji S9000 without IS.

And with IS...you could have pushed the envelop even more. For those with less hand holding skill...IS can be a real game changer...especially when we get really old and our abilities start to age a bit

For those with the skill...it lets us push our skill well beyond what is normally possible without IS.

Sometimes it’s not just a matter of skill as some of us myself included, gradually lose the ability to handhold due to the ageing process. I can’t get away with anything like Tom achieved anymore but back in the day no problem.Oh well such is life .

 

[Mako2011]

I'm 78 and can hold a camera just as steady as when I was 18.

That's great (but an A vs B comparison to prove will be hard )...most in that age bracket can't ... though I often still think I can

That said IS is very useful, but my purpose was to show that a camera without IS can be handheld successfully at slow shutter speeds.

And even slower still with IS. Great stuff

 

[chrishurley]

IS is a game changer... You can say it spoils you and I suppose that is true but there is a never-ending list of things that spoil you.

I'm going to shoot it and in bright sunlight, it won't matter anyway. It will stink in low light regardless, so it is a non-issue.

 

[Mackiesback]

People are spoiled by IS. If you use proper technique slow handheld shots are possible without Image Stabilization. The following was shot at 0.14 sec with a Fuji S9000 without IS.

And with IS...you could have pushed the envelop even more. For those with less hand holding skill...IS can be a real game changer...especially when we get really old and our abilities start to age a bit

For those with the skill...it lets us push our skill well beyond what is normally possible without IS.

100%

 

[tbcass]

I'm 78 and can hold a camera just as steady as when I was 18.

That's great (but an A vs B comparison to prove will be hard )...most in that age bracket can't ... though I often still think I can

Admittedly I am far healthier than 90% of people my age according to my doctor so my abilities won't be applicable to others.

 

[Mackiesback]

People are spoiled by IS. If you use proper technique slow handheld shots are possible without Image Stabilization. The following was shot at 0.14 sec with a Fuji S9000 without IS.

And with IS...you could have pushed the envelop even more. For those with less hand holding skill...IS can be a real game changer...especially when we get really old and our abilities start to age a bit

For those with the skill...it lets us push our skill well beyond what is normally possible without IS.

I'm 78 and can hold a camera just as steady as when I was 18. Maybe slower because when I was young, I tended to be very hyper. That said IS is very useful, but my purpose was to show that a camera without IS can be handheld successfully at slow shutter speeds. The OP thought the camera would have to be used in daylight.

Might be because everything off base iso falls apart pretty quickly. It's amazing how much more steady ones hands are when they are using a good low light camera.

Regardless, it's like guys bragging about how much weight they can carry. Not much point to the discussion as everyone has different talents and different rates of deterioration.

 

[Kodakrevisited]

Kodak Z612, 6.1mp 12 x zoom with OIS, had one new and paid £360, I loved it at the time, small and light with......AN EVF!!!!

 

[ToddFerguson]

Absolutely! I totally agree that cheap cameras can be a blast to use. Here's why I love them too:

Carefree Shooting: There's a certain freedom that comes with knowing you're not lugging around a super expensive piece of equipment. You're less worried about bumps, scratches, or even the occasional drop, allowing you to be more adventurous with your shots.
Simplicity: Cheap cameras often have fewer bells and whistles, which can be refreshing. You don't get bogged down in endless settings and menus, letting you focus on the joy of capturing the moment.
Surprisingly Good Results: Modern budget cameras often pack a punch in terms of image quality. You might be surprised at how good the photos turn out, especially in good lighting conditions.
Lightweight and Portable: They're usually smaller and lighter than their pricier counterparts, making them perfect for carrying around all day without getting weighed down.

I actually had a similar experience with my old Kodak point-and-shoot. It wasn't fancy, but it took some fantastic photos that I still cherish. Sometimes, the less you worry about the gear, the more you can just enjoy the process of photography.

 

[Bob]

Cheap cameras are notoriously slow at starting up and focusing. The viewfinders are tiny and hard to see. A lack of buttons and dials means I have to dig through menus to change settings. Batteries don't last very long. Sensors are tiny resulting in low resolution and zero bokeh. Are we having fun yet?

 

[tbcass]

Cheap cameras are notoriously slow at starting up and focusing. The viewfinders are tiny and hard to see. A lack of buttons and dials means I have to dig through menus to change settings. Batteries don't last very long. Sensors are tiny resulting in low resolution and zero bokeh. Are we having fun yet?

Despite all that many people love their cheap cameras. The differences in us are what makes life interesting.