Adobe Creative Cloud subscriptions = 33 million!

[Redcrown]

It's rare to find stats on photo editing software user counts. Here's a source that shows the Adobe subscription model is a big success.

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prodesigntools.com

 

[maltmoose]

33 million people that dont own "the" software, weird.

 

[Ken Seals]

33 million people that dont own "the" software, weird.

You probably don't "own" any software, unless you wrote it yourself. You have (hopefully) purchased a license to "use" the software. That may be a perpetual license or a subscription license, it's still a license. The software publisher "owns" the software.

 

[BobKnDP]

33 million people that dont own "the" software, weird.

No users "owned" the versions before Adobe went to the subscription model.

You paid for a license to use it. You didn't get access to the source code, and you weren't supposed to reverse engineer or modify the software. You could activate it only on the number of computers that Adobe permitted.

And, as some are beginning to discover, Adobe may stop new activations of their software at their discretion. "Lifetime" use may not mean your lifetime, or even the lifetime of the PC.

I'm not suggesting that everyone should sign up for the subscription model. I have, but if Adobe raises the subscription price enough, I may have to reconsider. ($10 plus tax per month is OK.)

 

[sybersitizen]

($10 plus tax per month is OK.)

I didn't realize that some countries/states/jurisdictions impose a tax on that. How much is it?

 

[maltmoose]

33 million people that dont own "the" software, weird.

You probably don't "own" any software, unless you wrote it yourself. You have (hopefully) purchased a license to "use" the software. That may be a perpetual license or a subscription license, it's still a license. The software publisher "owns" the software.

Yes im aware of licenses but then my comment wouldnt bug you so much if it was technically accurate which it isnt.. you and everyone else knows what i mean.

 

[Major Jack]

It's rare to find stats on photo editing software user counts. Here's a source that shows the Adobe subscription model is a big success.

https://prodesigntools.com/number-of-creative-cloud-subscribers.html

I am not surprised at that total. I thought it might be higher to be honest.

And, thanks for the link, as it has some good reading and downloads.

 

[BobKnDP]

($10 plus tax per month is OK.)

I didn't realize that some countries/states/jurisdictions impose a tax on that. How much is it?

US Connecticut state sales tax. 6.35%.

 

[sybersitizen]

($10 plus tax per month is OK.)

I didn't realize that some countries/states/jurisdictions impose a tax on that. How much is it?

US Connecticut state sales tax. 6.35%.

Hmmm. My state (California) has sales tax on many things, but downloaded software, music, and games are not subject to tax if no tangible storage media is obtained. I don't have any software subscriptions, but I assume they wouldn't be taxed either.

 

[Zeee]

33 million people that dont own "the" software, weird.

You probably don't "own" any software, unless you wrote it yourself. You have (hopefully) purchased a license to "use" the software. That may be a perpetual license or a subscription license, it's still a license. The software publisher "owns" the software.

Yes im aware of licenses but then my comment wouldnt bug you so much if it was technically accurate which it isnt.. you and everyone else knows what i mean.

Technically I'd rather not own it. Major releases mid year (Adobe Denoiss AI). Not needing to decide if I need an upgrade every fall. No need to pay for an upgrade if a I get a new camera and these days and Adobe provides RAW support on the day of a new camera release. You can subscribe in August and get the October upgrade. 5 personal websites with Portfolio which is integrated with LrC. No price increases in 7 years due to 33 million subscribers. That's really weird.

 

[robgendreau]

33 million people that dont own "the" software, weird.

You probably don't "own" any software, unless you wrote it yourself. You have (hopefully) purchased a license to "use" the software. That may be a perpetual license or a subscription license, it's still a license. The software publisher "owns" the software.

Yes im aware of licenses but then my comment wouldnt bug you so much if it was technically accurate which it isnt.. you and everyone else knows what i mean.

Technically I'd rather not own it. Major releases mid year (Adobe Denoiss AI). Not needing to decide if I need an upgrade every fall. No need to pay for an upgrade if a I get a new camera and these days and Adobe provides RAW support on the day of a new camera release. You can subscribe in August and get the October upgrade. 5 personal websites with Portfolio which is integrated with LrC. No price increases in 7 years due to 33 million subscribers. That's really weird.

That's my kind of weird for sure. If it fueled things like the HDR button, I'm really a happy camper. And now it and Ps are FAR FAR cheaper than what I paid for them back in the pre sub days. Nice to get a win win these days. And the naysayers still have their options too, another win.

 

[Ken53]

https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/

 

[Zeee]

33 million people that dont own "the" software, weird.

You probably don't "own" any software, unless you wrote it yourself. You have (hopefully) purchased a license to "use" the software. That may be a perpetual license or a subscription license, it's still a license. The software publisher "owns" the software.

Yes im aware of licenses but then my comment wouldnt bug you so much if it was technically accurate which it isnt.. you and everyone else knows what i mean.

Technically I'd rather not own it. Major releases mid year (Adobe Denoiss AI). Not needing to decide if I need an upgrade every fall. No need to pay for an upgrade if a I get a new camera and these days and Adobe provides RAW support on the day of a new camera release. You can subscribe in August and get the October upgrade. 5 personal websites with Portfolio which is integrated with LrC. No price increases in 7 years due to 33 million subscribers. That's really weird.

That's my kind of weird for sure. If it fueled things like the HDR button, I'm really a happy camper. And now it and Ps are FAR FAR cheaper than what I paid for them back in the pre sub days. Nice to get a win win these days. And the naysayers still have their options too, another win.

I'm saving significant money not purchasing/updating 3rd party NR apps any more. Website as well.

 

[chemist47]

I am not surprised at all. Lightroom family (LrC, Lr, Lr mobile, Photoshop) is without doubt best photo software available today. I have been user of LrC from the beginning but recently I switched to Lr cloud version and I am more than happy.

 

[gmcooper]

I don't own Netflix either. I just pay to watch. Do you think that's the same thing as subscribing to use software?

 

[sybersitizen]

I don't own Netflix either. I just pay to watch. Do you think that's the same thing as subscribing to use software?

Well, one difference is that some subscription photographic software retains some capabilities after you stop the subscription - like the ability to still search and look at files you've already processed, though you can't process new files.

If Netflix allowed to you to still search and view things you've already watched even after you stop the subscription, that would be sort of similar.

 

[Zeee]

I don't own Netflix either. I just pay to watch. Do you think that's the same thing as subscribing to use software?

Or Prime, cable service, internet, PVRs, modem, cell service, etc. I stopped buying PVR's and the other cable boxes long ago. Too expensive. If one fails I just get a new one from the service provider.

 

[robgendreau]

I don't own Netflix either. I just pay to watch. Do you think that's the same thing as subscribing to use software?

It's tough to understand what you are trying to say.

But yeah, Netflix doesn't own the content either, so it is somewhat similar. It has a EULA somewhere in the terms you agree to, just like software does. They get an exclusive license to distribute it from a studio say (although they do have some original works themselves). That's then provided to you under a license. Which forbids you from say selling a copy, or even showing it and charging a fee. Etc. And that's true for some broadcast content, like the Super Bowl.

It's just copyright and intellectual property law, and quite common. Even before digital stuff. And time limited contracts in software were common going way back as well, since site licensing has been a thing before individual software subscriptions.

 

[AndyGordon]

I’ve just cancelled mine. Tried it again, liked some features, didn’t like others, so it goes

 

[Toermalijn]

33 million people that dont own "the" software, weird.

You probably don't "own" any software, unless you wrote it yourself. You have (hopefully) purchased a license to "use" the software. That may be a perpetual license or a subscription license, it's still a license. The software publisher "owns" the software.

Yes im aware of licenses but then my comment wouldnt bug you so much if it was technically accurate which it isnt.. you and everyone else knows what i mean.

Technically I'd rather not own it. Major releases mid year (Adobe Denoiss AI). Not needing to decide if I need an upgrade every fall. No need to pay for an upgrade if a I get a new camera and these days and Adobe provides RAW support on the day of a new camera release. You can subscribe in August and get the October upgrade. 5 personal websites with Portfolio which is integrated with LrC. No price increases in 7 years due to 33 million subscribers. That's really weird.

The 33 million subscribers is not only for Photoshop.

Executives from Adobe clearly stated that the most money comes from other pro software like acrobat pro and such. Photoshop isn't making that much money for them.

Most money from companies who rent the Creative suite....