All frame rates jutter/stutter

I watched all three videos and everything looks as expected except the playback errors on the 60p footage. I kept my mouse over a certain point in the playback marker timeline and kept bringing the video back to that point and playing. The random stutters were falling in similar but different places each time. Weird. It looks like some kind of YouTube playback issue or, issues with the encoded file. Maybe try encoding the 60p file in a few different formats and uploading to YT to test.

So as far as panning, everything looks normal which means you have to learn to work within the parameters of your chosen framerate. As far as shutter speed, I have always used 1/60th for 60p as I think it looks better for motion. (the 180 deg rule is more more 24p & 30p).

As a general approach, try to limit panning anyway unless you have to. If you pan, try moving the camera along a circular arc in the opposite direction of the pan. This is referred to as an orbit move. It is a way to limit judder when filming in 24p.

So bottom line, 24p & 30 will give you judder when you pan from a fixed location. That does not mean they are useless. Pick your framerate at the beginning of your project based upon what you will be filming or if you have a certain requirement (like 24p for cinema etc...) Then you can adjust how you will approach the filming. Use higher framerates for more camera movement and a "live look". Use slower framerates for more storytelling.
 
Hi,

It is always an issue :-) I have S5 - a wonderful camera, always (almost always) use 50p/60p to have a smooth playback. The biggest disadvantage is crop :-(

Regarding "blurry" - No. As long as you maintain 180 degree rule - does not matter which FPS you use - it will be a nice.

That's why the "Shoot only 24 FPS to have cinematic movie" rule is old and wrong.

180 degree shutter speed rule - main point to achieve 'non-choppy'
 
Hi,

It is always an issue :-) I have S5 - a wonderful camera, always (almost always) use 50p/60p to have a smooth playback. The biggest disadvantage is crop :-(

Regarding "blurry" - No. As long as you maintain 180 degree rule - does not matter which FPS you use - it will be a nice.

That's why the "Shoot only 24 FPS to have cinematic movie" rule is old and wrong.

180 degree shutter speed rule - main point to achieve 'non-choppy'
I would point you to this thread for a technical explanation of why and when this bluriness occurs https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/66130214
 
Hi,

It is always an issue :-) I have S5 - a wonderful camera, always (almost always) use 50p/60p to have a smooth playback. The biggest disadvantage is crop :-(

Regarding "blurry" - No. As long as you maintain 180 degree rule - does not matter which FPS you use - it will be a nice.

That's why the "Shoot only 24 FPS to have cinematic movie" rule is old and wrong.

180 degree shutter speed rule - main point to achieve 'non-choppy'
I side with the 93 years of Oscar winning cinematographers who prove YOU wrong.
 
Hmm - maybe it's a "feature" of my M1 Max, which has, by default, a variable frame rate. It can be changed to a fixed frame rate.
Is a hand-crank accessory available for the M1 Max?

:-)
Yes.

https://www.amazon.com/Zeus-Dynamo-...cphy=9028321&hvtargid=pla-1158434116551&psc=1
OK. Cool. I guess I wasn't clear.

I meant, can you use it to speed up and slow down your variable-rate display? Like a hand-cranked projector? Probably best to disable the - convincing - nitrate print fire effect, which, I believe, sets fire to the M1's battery.

:-)

I'll write a bit more about very old frame rates on another thread later.
 
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Hmm - maybe it's a "feature" of my M1 Max, which has, by default, a variable frame rate. It can be changed to a fixed frame rate.
Is a hand-crank accessory available for the M1 Max?

:-)
Yes.

https://www.amazon.com/Zeus-Dynamo-...cphy=9028321&hvtargid=pla-1158434116551&psc=1
OK. Cool. I guess I wasn't clear.

I meant, can you use it to speed up and slow down your variable-rate display? Like a hand-cranked projector? Probably best to disable the - convincing - nitrate print fire effect, which, I believe, sets fire to the M1's battery.

:-)

I'll write a bit more about very old frame rates on another thread later.
I suspected that wasn't what you were referring to, but I couldn't help posting a link to that crank. :)

There is a setting to turn off the variable frame rate. I've not found a need to have to use it, though, so I'm not even sure where it is. I just recall reading about it.
 

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