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I've just spent a long week in the English Lake District for the school holidays and it was the first real-world test I've given the Rebel since I got it and I was absolutely delighted with the results - especially the landscapes which was one area in which the 602 I used previously was weaker than others. The lighting was incredible this last week and because of variable weather, we got a lot of dramatic skies to accompany the autumn colours, so I took rather more sky/landscape shots than I might normally.

I need some time to work my collection of shots, but I couldn't wait to see how a couple of the panorama sets came out. The 5 focus point indicators in the viewfinder make it easier than ever to take shots to use as panos (I was working handheld) I simply noted where the one at one end lined up on the scene and moved to line up the opposite one at the same point. It seemed to work pretty well.

I am however livid with myself, one set that might have made a really good pano, I'd thought I'd taken four adjacent shots - but I somehow missed a middle one - I must have been concentrating so hard on lining it up, I forgot the shutter completely as my pano when complete, didn't line up at all, it was missing a middle frame, so I've only used the end two frames. I was pretty impresed with PhotoStitch that comes with the camera, these are out of camera and stitched in the software on auto settings, they took a handful of minutes each to prepare only.

This is the two frame shot, of Windermere - the largest lake in the English Lake District, taken from near Gummer's How. I'll not embed them as they're large (each over 200KB):

http://www.zenadsl5251.zen.co.uk/photos/oct03/windermerepanolg.jpg

This one was taken in the Langdale Valley from 4 frames, the peaks are Great Knott, The Band and the Langdale Pikes:

http://www.zenadsl5251.zen.co.uk/photos/oct03/langdalespanolg.jpg

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Boo:

Both panos are really nice. Beautiful scenery. I'd like to visit there some day. Thanks for sharing with us.

Dan
Boo said:
I've just spent a long week in the English Lake District for the
school holidays and it was the first real-world test I've given the
Rebel since I got it and I was absolutely delighted with the
results - especially the landscapes which was one area in which the
602 I used previously was weaker than others. The lighting was
incredible this last week and because of variable weather, we got a
lot of dramatic skies to accompany the autumn colours, so I took
rather more sky/landscape shots than I might normally.

I need some time to work my collection of shots, but I couldn't
wait to see how a couple of the panorama sets came out. The 5
focus point indicators in the viewfinder make it easier than ever
to take shots to use as panos (I was working handheld) I simply
noted where the one at one end lined up on the scene and moved to
line up the opposite one at the same point. It seemed to work
pretty well.

I am however livid with myself, one set that might have made a
really good pano, I'd thought I'd taken four adjacent shots - but I
somehow missed a middle one - I must have been concentrating so
hard on lining it up, I forgot the shutter completely as my pano
when complete, didn't line up at all, it was missing a middle
frame, so I've only used the end two frames. I was pretty impresed
with PhotoStitch that comes with the camera, these are out of
camera and stitched in the software on auto settings, they took a
handful of minutes each to prepare only.

This is the two frame shot, of Windermere - the largest lake in the
English Lake District, taken from near Gummer's How. I'll not
embed them as they're large (each over 200KB):

http://www.zenadsl5251.zen.co.uk/photos/oct03/windermerepanolg.jpg

This one was taken in the Langdale Valley from 4 frames, the peaks
are Great Knott, The Band and the Langdale Pikes:

http://www.zenadsl5251.zen.co.uk/photos/oct03/langdalespanolg.jpg

--
http://www.peekaboo.me.uk - general portfolio
http://www.boo-photos.co.uk - live music photos
http://www.boo-photos.co.uk/lowlight.html - available light live
music tutorial
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Funny how more people don't shoot panas. I think they can turn an OK shot into a great shot. I love them.

Any know a good but inexpensive place to print Panas? I do my other shots at Costco.
 
Those are both very beautiful! Glad you enjoyed using the Digital Rebel.

Travis
 
Trick Shot said:
Funny how more people don't shoot panas. I think they can turn an
OK shot into a great shot. I love them.
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I haven't had that good results in the past, on account of not really trying that hard and only using trial software, but having tried the PhotoStitch software that comes with the camera and how good and easy the results were, I really wish I'd taken more sets to treat this way - the scenery was certainly conducive to it. Each of these only took a few minutes and the software itself was incredibly fast compared to applications I've tried previously, that laboured over the process. It will do 360 degree panos and having done one in the past with a Java applet on a web page that really amused people to negotiate around it, I wish I'd done a full circle of shots.
Trick Shot said:
Any know a good but inexpensive place to print Panas? I do my
other shots at Costco.
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I must admit, I decided to combine a couple onto one large file and get a 30 x 20 poster print done and cut it up, in the absence of any better ideas at the moment.

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Boo said:
I've just spent a long week in the English Lake District for the
school holidays and it was the first real-world test I've given the
Rebel since I got it and I was absolutely delighted with the
results - especially the landscapes which was one area in which the
602 I used previously was weaker than others. The lighting was
incredible this last week and because of variable weather, we got a
lot of dramatic skies to accompany the autumn colours, so I took
rather more sky/landscape shots than I might normally.

I need some time to work my collection of shots, but I couldn't
wait to see how a couple of the panorama sets came out. The 5
focus point indicators in the viewfinder make it easier than ever
to take shots to use as panos (I was working handheld) I simply
noted where the one at one end lined up on the scene and moved to
line up the opposite one at the same point. It seemed to work
pretty well.

I am however livid with myself, one set that might have made a
really good pano, I'd thought I'd taken four adjacent shots - but I
somehow missed a middle one - I must have been concentrating so
hard on lining it up, I forgot the shutter completely as my pano
when complete, didn't line up at all, it was missing a middle
frame, so I've only used the end two frames. I was pretty impresed
with PhotoStitch that comes with the camera, these are out of
camera and stitched in the software on auto settings, they took a
handful of minutes each to prepare only.

This is the two frame shot, of Windermere - the largest lake in the
English Lake District, taken from near Gummer's How. I'll not
embed them as they're large (each over 200KB):

http://www.zenadsl5251.zen.co.uk/photos/oct03/windermerepanolg.jpg

This one was taken in the Langdale Valley from 4 frames, the peaks
are Great Knott, The Band and the Langdale Pikes:

http://www.zenadsl5251.zen.co.uk/photos/oct03/langdalespanolg.jpg

--
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http://www.boo-photos.co.uk - live music photos
http://www.boo-photos.co.uk/lowlight.html - available light live
music tutorial
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Both very nice but I noticed something in the upper left hand corner of the 2nd one. What is that? Other than that looks great. I have used photostich upon occasion and works quite well but haven't done any with the DRebel as yet.
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mark allen said:
...I took my son to Blackpool last Wednesday and saw some of the
great light/Scary cloud combinations on the way up the M6,
unfortunately it wasn't really practical to stop and shoot.
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I'm from that way myself originally. There really were some stunning skies last week - I'm just working the first few shots for my web site, I'll post a URL when I've done some more.
mark allen said:
Have you had chance to do any gig photography with the 300D yet?
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Unfortunately not, all the bands I normally work with have done gigs either the other side of the country or world or when I was away last week. I'm looking forward to giving it a good thrashing ASAP. Although having the time to get to know it well before having to perform professionally is no bad thing, I'd feel completely confident using it now. I'm incredibly happy with it - especially the high ISOs - I've had very good results.

I've posted this elsewhere - it was taken on the western shore of Windermere last Friday teatime, we were setting off 'home' for the evening and going up a steep single track road in deep woodland and a herd of red deer crossed the road ahead of us and disappeared into the trees - I had the Rebel on my lap, so took some shots of disappearing bottoms. I was aware of being watched and turned the other way and five deer had become separated on the other side of the track and just stood watching us a few feet from the car, so I fired off a few shots, before another car approached and pressured us to move off.

It was going dark and the deep wooded area was almost dark (much visibly darker than the photo looks), so this was taken at 1600 ISO, 1/13 @ f5.6 at 135mm, hand held. I'm delighted with the low light results.



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http://www.boo-photos.co.uk/lowlight.html - available light live music tutorial
 
Boo,

There's a possible workaround for your missing middle shot. I've seen some panos matted in a frame as seperate shots. Basically one custom mat with several holes. Gives the impression of looking through a row of windows at the world outside. You will need to try to calculate the distance between the two halves of your pano so that they appear continuous behind the mat. Does this make sense? I'd give you an example but I'm at work right now.

-Ben
Boo said:
I've just spent a long week in the English Lake District for the
school holidays and it was the first real-world test I've given the
Rebel since I got it and I was absolutely delighted with the
results - especially the landscapes which was one area in which the
602 I used previously was weaker than others. The lighting was
incredible this last week and because of variable weather, we got a
lot of dramatic skies to accompany the autumn colours, so I took
rather more sky/landscape shots than I might normally.

I need some time to work my collection of shots, but I couldn't
wait to see how a couple of the panorama sets came out. The 5
focus point indicators in the viewfinder make it easier than ever
to take shots to use as panos (I was working handheld) I simply
noted where the one at one end lined up on the scene and moved to
line up the opposite one at the same point. It seemed to work
pretty well.

I am however livid with myself, one set that might have made a
really good pano, I'd thought I'd taken four adjacent shots - but I
somehow missed a middle one - I must have been concentrating so
hard on lining it up, I forgot the shutter completely as my pano
when complete, didn't line up at all, it was missing a middle
frame, so I've only used the end two frames. I was pretty impresed
with PhotoStitch that comes with the camera, these are out of
camera and stitched in the software on auto settings, they took a
handful of minutes each to prepare only.

This is the two frame shot, of Windermere - the largest lake in the
English Lake District, taken from near Gummer's How. I'll not
embed them as they're large (each over 200KB):

http://www.zenadsl5251.zen.co.uk/photos/oct03/windermerepanolg.jpg

This one was taken in the Langdale Valley from 4 frames, the peaks
are Great Knott, The Band and the Langdale Pikes:

http://www.zenadsl5251.zen.co.uk/photos/oct03/langdalespanolg.jpg

--
http://www.peekaboo.me.uk - general portfolio
http://www.boo-photos.co.uk - live music photos
http://www.boo-photos.co.uk/lowlight.html - available light live
music tutorial
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Boo said:
I've just spent a long week in the English Lake District for the
school holidays and it was the first real-world test I've given the
Rebel since I got it and I was absolutely delighted with the
results - especially the landscapes which was one area in which the
602 I used previously was weaker than others. The lighting was
incredible this last week and because of variable weather, we got a
lot of dramatic skies to accompany the autumn colours, so I took
rather more sky/landscape shots than I might normally.

I need some time to work my collection of shots, but I couldn't
wait to see how a couple of the panorama sets came out. The 5
focus point indicators in the viewfinder make it easier than ever
to take shots to use as panos (I was working handheld) I simply
noted where the one at one end lined up on the scene and moved to
line up the opposite one at the same point. It seemed to work
pretty well.

I am however livid with myself, one set that might have made a
really good pano, I'd thought I'd taken four adjacent shots - but I
somehow missed a middle one - I must have been concentrating so
hard on lining it up, I forgot the shutter completely as my pano
when complete, didn't line up at all, it was missing a middle
frame, so I've only used the end two frames. I was pretty impresed
with PhotoStitch that comes with the camera, these are out of
camera and stitched in the software on auto settings, they took a
handful of minutes each to prepare only.

This is the two frame shot, of Windermere - the largest lake in the
English Lake District, taken from near Gummer's How. I'll not
embed them as they're large (each over 200KB):

http://www.zenadsl5251.zen.co.uk/photos/oct03/windermerepanolg.jpg

This one was taken in the Langdale Valley from 4 frames, the peaks
are Great Knott, The Band and the Langdale Pikes:

http://www.zenadsl5251.zen.co.uk/photos/oct03/langdalespanolg.jpg

--
http://www.peekaboo.me.uk - general portfolio
http://www.boo-photos.co.uk - live music photos
http://www.boo-photos.co.uk/lowlight.html - available light live
music tutorial
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Hi Bob,

These are great photos. How did you take the photos in the first place?

I've had trouble with the issue of exposure when trying to take pano shots. If the entire scene is backlit, then, keeping a constant exposure for all the shots isn't so bad. But, if the one portion of the scene is significantly brighter than the others, it's hard to find an exposure that works well.

Also, I'm new to the Rebel. Is there a particular feature in the Rebel that makes this easy?

Thanks,

Mitch
Boo said:
I've just spent a long week in the English Lake District for the
school holidays and it was the first real-world test I've given the
Rebel since I got it and I was absolutely delighted with the
results - especially the landscapes which was one area in which the
602 I used previously was weaker than others. The lighting was
incredible this last week and because of variable weather, we got a
lot of dramatic skies to accompany the autumn colours, so I took
rather more sky/landscape shots than I might normally.

I need some time to work my collection of shots, but I couldn't
wait to see how a couple of the panorama sets came out. The 5
focus point indicators in the viewfinder make it easier than ever
to take shots to use as panos (I was working handheld) I simply
noted where the one at one end lined up on the scene and moved to
line up the opposite one at the same point. It seemed to work
pretty well.

I am however livid with myself, one set that might have made a
really good pano, I'd thought I'd taken four adjacent shots - but I
somehow missed a middle one - I must have been concentrating so
hard on lining it up, I forgot the shutter completely as my pano
when complete, didn't line up at all, it was missing a middle
frame, so I've only used the end two frames. I was pretty impresed
with PhotoStitch that comes with the camera, these are out of
camera and stitched in the software on auto settings, they took a
handful of minutes each to prepare only.

This is the two frame shot, of Windermere - the largest lake in the
English Lake District, taken from near Gummer's How. I'll not
embed them as they're large (each over 200KB):

http://www.zenadsl5251.zen.co.uk/photos/oct03/windermerepanolg.jpg

This one was taken in the Langdale Valley from 4 frames, the peaks
are Great Knott, The Band and the Langdale Pikes:

http://www.zenadsl5251.zen.co.uk/photos/oct03/langdalespanolg.jpg

--
http://www.peekaboo.me.uk - general portfolio
http://www.boo-photos.co.uk - live music photos
http://www.boo-photos.co.uk/lowlight.html - available light live
music tutorial
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mitchmu said:
I've had trouble with the issue of exposure when trying to take
pano shots. If the entire scene is backlit, then, keeping a
constant exposure for all the shots isn't so bad. But, if the one
portion of the scene is significantly brighter than the others,
it's hard to find an exposure that works well.
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I must admit that for these, I just used aperture priority and allowed the camera to fix it's own exposure, choosing a narrow aperture for DOF. If I'd known they would come out so well, I would have taken more care with exposure, metering for an average spot in the range of views probably and setting it manually.

But the software I used on this occasion is PhotoStitch that comes with the camera and it appears to adjust the exposure as part of the stitching process - two particular adjacent frames were very visibly different in exposure, but they blended very much better than I expected. In fact I was sufficiently concerned that I adjusted two copies of the frames and cropped them a little as there was a good overlap and this didn't work as well as the automatic adjustment from the original, unaltered frames.
mitchmu said:
Also, I'm new to the Rebel. Is there a particular feature in the
Rebel that makes this easy?
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Normally, you'd use a tripod and work it out your overlap more carefully, but I was only tinkering without very much thought or planning. In my case, I framed the first shot and swung around to the far extremity, holding the camera at the same elevation, to ensure all the area would be covered in one arc without height adjustment. I framed the first shot at the left extreme and mentally noted where the right hand AF point in the viewfinder fell on the scene, I then simply swung to my right, holding the camera in the same vertical position, so that the left hand AF point landed on the point in the scene that the right hand one had been in the previous shot - took the shot (or forgot in one case!) and then repeated the process. There may well be better ways of doing it, but it appeared to work well enough in this instance. In future I'll perhaps be more careful - or maybe not, maybe they won't work as well if I try too hard!!

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http://www.boo-photos.co.uk/lowlight.html - available light live music tutorial
 
Ben Seese said:
There's a possible workaround for your missing middle shot.
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I can't fathom how I missed it in the first instance - I can't have trashed it in error as the number would be allocated anyway and the three I have are consecutive numbers. I must just have forgotten to take it. What silliness!
Ben Seese said:
I've
seen some panos matted in a frame as seperate shots. Basically one
custom mat with several holes. Gives the impression of looking
through a row of windows at the world outside.
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That sounds like a great idea. The missing bit is quite a large section - 25% of the total area as there should have been four shots and I only have three, but it just needs enough of a gap to disguise the gap - although those familar with the area would realise. There's unfortunately a tree more in the foreground than the rest, on the fourth frame, but if I crop that off and use the rest, it might well work.

Thanks for the good idea, I'm going to give it a try.

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A feature I like with the 300d for panoramas is that when you set it to manual and rotate it around with the tripod, you can clearly see where under and overexposure is going to occure by watching the lightmeter in the viewfinder!

Jonas
mitchmu said:
These are great photos. How did you take the photos in the first
place?

I've had trouble with the issue of exposure when trying to take
pano shots. If the entire scene is backlit, then, keeping a
constant exposure for all the shots isn't so bad. But, if the one
portion of the scene is significantly brighter than the others,
it's hard to find an exposure that works well.

Also, I'm new to the Rebel. Is there a particular feature in the
Rebel that makes this easy?

Thanks,

Mitch
Boo said:
I've just spent a long week in the English Lake District for the
school holidays and it was the first real-world test I've given the
Rebel since I got it and I was absolutely delighted with the
results - especially the landscapes which was one area in which the
602 I used previously was weaker than others. The lighting was
incredible this last week and because of variable weather, we got a
lot of dramatic skies to accompany the autumn colours, so I took
rather more sky/landscape shots than I might normally.

I need some time to work my collection of shots, but I couldn't
wait to see how a couple of the panorama sets came out. The 5
focus point indicators in the viewfinder make it easier than ever
to take shots to use as panos (I was working handheld) I simply
noted where the one at one end lined up on the scene and moved to
line up the opposite one at the same point. It seemed to work
pretty well.

I am however livid with myself, one set that might have made a
really good pano, I'd thought I'd taken four adjacent shots - but I
somehow missed a middle one - I must have been concentrating so
hard on lining it up, I forgot the shutter completely as my pano
when complete, didn't line up at all, it was missing a middle
frame, so I've only used the end two frames. I was pretty impresed
with PhotoStitch that comes with the camera, these are out of
camera and stitched in the software on auto settings, they took a
handful of minutes each to prepare only.

This is the two frame shot, of Windermere - the largest lake in the
English Lake District, taken from near Gummer's How. I'll not
embed them as they're large (each over 200KB):

http://www.zenadsl5251.zen.co.uk/photos/oct03/windermerepanolg.jpg

This one was taken in the Langdale Valley from 4 frames, the peaks
are Great Knott, The Band and the Langdale Pikes:

http://www.zenadsl5251.zen.co.uk/photos/oct03/langdalespanolg.jpg

--
http://www.peekaboo.me.uk - general portfolio
http://www.boo-photos.co.uk - live music photos
http://www.boo-photos.co.uk/lowlight.html - available light live
music tutorial
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